| 06:07:13 | markus_N: | hi luc, do you mind if I rename ToDoList to foss4g2006_ToDoList in the wiki? |
| 06:35:33 | lmaurer: | Helo Markus => no problem for me => just tell me when it is ok, because I have to tell all persons ! |
| 07:02:49 | oertz: | Hi everybody. Great to see you all in this room. Let's start ? |
| 07:04:28 | markus_N: | lmaurer: done - there is a redirect now to the new name |
| 07:05:28 | jmckenna: | yes i think we should start |
| 07:05:49 | : | * FrankW has sudden realization how to view .ods files... |
| 07:06:28 | oertz: | Agenda for today : |
| 07:06:30 | oertz: | 1. Preliminary timetable for conferences |
| 07:06:31 | oertz: | 2. Keynotes : who, when, how long ( 30min? ), what. |
| 07:06:33 | oertz: | 3. BOFs / DEMOs / Lightning Talks ( http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Foss4g2006#BOFs_.2F_DEMOs_.2F_Lightning_Talks ) |
| 07:06:34 | oertz: | 4. Workshops situation |
| 07:06:34 | sigq: | Title: Foss4g2006 - OSGEO ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:06:39 | DodgyDude: | <http://ln-s.net/D0w> ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:06:47 | sigq: | Title: Foss4g2006 - OSGEO ( at ln-s.net ) |
| 07:07:32 | oertz: | I forgot the point n°5 : misc ;- ) |
| 07:08:06 | oertz: | Point 1 : did you have a look to the timetable local committee hardly worked on ? |
| 07:08:25 | markus_N: | can you post the url again? |
| 07:08:35 | markus_N: | to the last version? |
| 07:08:36 | pona: | oertz: did include remarks form Luc and I? |
| 07:08:36 | helena: | yes, it looks good |
| 07:08:41 | oertz: | feel free to criticise |
| 07:09:15 | markus_N: | helena, how much difference is there to your latest version? |
| 07:09:30 | lmaurer: | Hello here are some comments : |
| 07:09:33 | oertz: | pona : not yet |
| 07:09:44 | helena: | there are some sessions with very diverse topics but I found that you always get some leftovers that don't fit anywhere |
| 07:09:45 | lmaurer: | Wednesday 13 |
| 07:09:45 | lmaurer: | comment : with 30' no difference between regular conf and keynote |
| 07:09:45 | lmaurer: | 7:00 - 8:15 : Registration |
| 07:09:45 | lmaurer: | 8:30 - 9:00 Welcom |
| 07:09:46 | lmaurer: | 9:00 - 9:30 Lightning talks 15' + sponsor presentation 15' |
| 07:09:46 | lmaurer: | 9:30 - 10:15 Warmerdam |
| 07:09:48 | lmaurer: | 10:15 - 10:45 Pause |
| 07:09:50 | lmaurer: | 10:45 - 11-30 Gary Lang |
| 07:09:52 | lmaurer: | 11:30 - 12:15 Marthaler |
| 07:09:54 | lmaurer: | 12:15 - 13:30 Lunch |
| 07:09:56 | lmaurer: | ... |
| 07:09:58 | lmaurer: | 20:00 - 24: 00 : Meet together down town event |
| 07:10:00 | lmaurer: | Thursday 14: |
| 07:10:02 | lmaurer: | should have 5-10 min for people dispatching in rooms after keynote. |
| 07:10:04 | lmaurer: | Keynonte only 30'? |
| 07:10:06 | lmaurer: | Friday 15: |
| 07:10:08 | lmaurer: | invert Open Street map Public Geodata |
| 07:10:10 | lmaurer: | 40 min for keynot presentation? |
| 07:10:19 | oertz: | let's discuss that now, so we have also isc point of view |
| 07:10:20 | helena: | keynotes are usually 40-45 min |
| 07:11:52 | oertz: | last version tends to give 40min to keynote, so we are standard |
| 07:13:35 | oertz: | do you know if keynotes who have also submitted a presentation will also talk about it during the keynote speaking time ( example : Westervelt ) |
| 07:14:13 | helena: | I emailed him but did not ask this question - I assume that the keynote will be different but I can check |
| 07:14:24 | FrankW: | My keynote is distinct from my presentations. |
| 07:14:45 | oertz: | good point |
| 07:14:57 | lmaurer: | I have to check with Raghavan |
| 07:15:15 | FrankW: | ( and I can't seem to open the latest timetable, though the earlier one worked ) |
| 07:15:45 | markus_N: | please post the URL again. Our mailserver crashed and I cannot open that message... |
| 07:15:45 | helena: | I did open it |
| 07:16:09 | markus_N: | FrankW: you need openoffice2 |
| 07:16:09 | helena: | after figuring out how to save it properly |
| 07:16:16 | helena: | yes |
| 07:16:26 | oertz: | https://conference.osgeo.org/files/documents/42/262/Foss4g2006_timetable_v3c.ods |
| 07:17:06 | markus_N: | thanks |
| 07:17:09 | markus_N: | works |
| 07:17:27 | lmaurer: | Wednesday 13 |
| 07:17:27 | lmaurer: | 7:00 - 8:15 : Registration8:30 - 9:00 Welcom |
| 07:17:27 | lmaurer: | ( 17:09:41 ) lmaurer: 9:00 - 9:30 Lightning talks 15' + sponsor presentation 15' |
| 07:17:27 | lmaurer: | ( 17:09:41 ) lmaurer: 9:30 - 10:15 Warmerdam |
| 07:17:27 | lmaurer: | ( 17:09:41 ) lmaurer: 10:15 - 10:45 Pause |
| 07:17:34 | lmaurer: | Oups sorry |
| 07:18:08 | oertz: | yes, first we should see together if we are ok with the openary session |
| 07:18:46 | markus_N: | Franck -> Frank ( if this matters here ) |
| 07:19:19 | FrankW: | Also Wamerdam to Warmerdam |
| 07:19:34 | oertz: | hu, sorrrry... |
| 07:19:40 | helena: | there is only 30min for keynotes here |
| 07:19:57 | lmaurer: | Are you agree with that for Wednesday 13 |
| 07:19:58 | lmaurer: | 7:00 - 8:15 : Registration |
| 07:19:58 | lmaurer: | 8:30 - 9:00 Welcom |
| 07:19:58 | lmaurer: | 9:00 - 9:30 Lightning talks 15' + sponsor presentation 15' |
| 07:19:58 | lmaurer: | 9:30 - 10:15 Warmerdam |
| 07:19:58 | lmaurer: | 10:15 - 10:45 Pause |
| 07:20:18 | oertz: | helena : yes we will upgrade it to have 40min |
| 07:20:37 | FrankW: | Note, 30 minutes would be fine for me. |
| 07:20:51 | FrankW: | what are sponsor presentations? |
| 07:21:22 | FrankW: | And do we only have 3 lightening talks? |
| 07:21:27 | lmaurer: | we have specify into the sponsorhip concept that the platinum sponsor could speak at the plenary session |
| 07:22:03 | lmaurer: | they have 5 minutes to present something ( company, project, ... ) |
| 07:22:53 | oertz: | I don't want to lost you : here a new version last of the last version : https://conference.osgeo.org/files/documents/42/262/Foss4g2006_timetable_v4_pre.ods |
| 07:23:27 | oertz: | frank : ok for 30min |
| 07:24:24 | oertz: | luc : can you explain for the sponsor presentations ? |
| 07:24:48 | oertz: | ok sorry |
| 07:25:41 | oertz: | lightning talks : http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Foss4g2006#Lightning_Talks |
| 07:25:43 | sigq: | Title: Foss4g2006 - OSGEO ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:25:47 | DodgyDude: | <http://ln-s.net/D12> ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:25:50 | sigq: | Title: Foss4g2006 - OSGEO ( at ln-s.net ) |
| 07:25:53 | lmaurer: | we can consider sponsor presentation like a lightening talks.... but we already know who will present it.... |
| 07:26:15 | FrankW: | ok on the sponsor presentations. |
| 07:27:15 | oertz: | 3 sponsor presentations + 4 lightning talks, do we need more ? if yes, how can we get more ? |
| 07:27:29 | FrankW: | So, I'd be keen to see a few more interesting lightening presentations if practical. |
| 07:27:54 | lmaurer: | I thing it is enough |
| 07:29:12 | markus_N: | I really enjoyed the lightening talks at OSG'05 |
| 07:29:18 | markus_N: | that |
| 07:29:25 | markus_N: | that's excellent to warm up people |
| 07:29:54 | pona: | it was 3 or 5 minutes per talk last year? |
| 07:29:55 | FrankW: | If we could have me with 30 mintes and do 6lightening + 3 sponsor 5min talks that would be great. |
| 07:30:03 | FrankW: | But only if we can get more talks of course |
| 07:30:04 | lmaurer: | ok as we spare 10 minutes with FrankW presentation, we can add 2 more :- ) |
| 07:30:18 | : | * FrankW can't imagine less than 5 minutes for a lightening talk. |
| 07:30:20 | helena: | should we create a space in the program for lightening talk for each major osgeo project to get update what is going on? |
| 07:30:48 | helena: | maybe Markus can submit lightening talk about GRASS/ |
| 07:30:55 | lmaurer: | we have to pay attention to have time between each speech !!! |
| 07:31:16 | lmaurer: | time run quick.... |
| 07:31:21 | sdlime: | they were 3 minutes last year |
| 07:31:34 | helena: | they should be on one computer so you can change in seconds |
| 07:31:42 | FrankW: | sdlime: No wonder I only got half way through! |
| 07:31:56 | jmckenna: | what about someone from a business perspective for a lightening talk ( feedback i got from the business-types is that it is too geeky..not my opinion but i have to mention it ) |
| 07:32:08 | lmaurer: | helena : it is what we have planed |
| 07:32:47 | oertz: | so, let's look for a Grass LT and business perspective LT |
| 07:32:53 | helena: | so markus what about your lightening talk ? |
| 07:33:09 | helena: | you are not presenting any talk so far |
| 07:33:20 | lmaurer: | yes let's go and if we don't find them, it is not a problem... |
| 07:33:28 | oertz: | LT = Lighting Talks ( I'm really an acronym addict ) |
| 07:33:44 | jmckenna: | ahh |
| 07:34:14 | oertz: | jeff, do you have an idea for business perspective LT |
| 07:34:50 | oertz: | by the way, let's network around to find 2 more LT |
| 07:35:28 | lmaurer: | oertz, could you please resume for wednesday 13th ! |
| 07:35:28 | jmckenna: | someone using open source in business...first one that comes to mind is Kevin Flanders from the US |
| 07:35:44 | jmckenna: | ( but not sure if he is going oops ) |
| 07:36:01 | lmaurer: | i am checking |
| 07:36:27 | lmaurer: | no he is not registered... |
| 07:37:00 | jmckenna: | have to think on that one more... |
| 07:37:20 | oertz: | so : |
| 07:37:20 | FrankW: | It would be nice if we could get an LT on region activities from some folks. |
| 07:37:21 | oertz: | 08h30 - 09h00 Introduction - welcome |
| 07:37:23 | oertz: | 09h00 - 09h30 6 Lightning talks + 3 sponsor presentations |
| 07:37:24 | oertz: | 09h45 - 10h15 Keynote Frank Warmerdam |
| 07:37:26 | oertz: | 10h15 - 10h45 Break |
| 07:37:27 | oertz: | 10h45 - 11h30 Keynote Gary Lang |
| 07:37:29 | oertz: | 11h30 - 12h10 Keynote François Marthaler |
| 07:37:31 | FrankW: | ( ie. someone from Brazil, etc ) |
| 07:38:43 | oertz: | yes, we could ask authors ( there are many from Brazil ) |
| 07:38:47 | FrankW: | oertz: I'm presuming the 9h30 to 9h45 gap would be filled with lightening talks/sponsor presentations? |
| 07:38:53 | lmaurer: | OK for me : juste a correction 09h00 - 09h45 ! and 11h30- 12h15 |
| 07:39:04 | markus_N: | helena: you know the reason why I was not submitting a presentation so far |
| 07:39:15 | jmckenna: | good idea frank - imagine 5 mins each on FOSS from a different area ( instead of from all of the dofferent software )....but that totally changes things |
| 07:39:15 | : | * markus_N tries to get his damn PhD thesis written |
| 07:39:47 | pona: | maybe we should mention that two keynotes will finally not speak english but the slide will be in english we could organize instant translation but not easy with the budget |
| 07:39:54 | oertz: | franck : oups yes, copy/paste victim |
| 07:39:58 | FrankW: | jmckenna: Well, I see Venka is doing a keynote on foss4g in asia so we could just aim for some representation from other areas not so well known as an LT. |
| 07:40:06 | : | * markus_N would appreciate a GRASS LT though ( maybe be a power user? ) |
| 07:40:46 | helena: | Markus: 5 minute update on what is new with GRASS - you probably already have slides for that and don't need much preparation, there will be many people outside GRASS community |
| 07:41:20 | lmaurer: | good idea ! |
| 07:41:55 | oertz: | +1 |
| 07:43:27 | FrankW: | OK, so we are good for the opening plenary schedulet then? I'm +1. |
| 07:44:06 | oertz: | we will ask for LT among authors list |
| 07:44:23 | helena: | I have to leave in few minutes so if there is specific issue that I need to know about please discuss it now ( I hope we are set for GRASS ) |
| 07:44:40 | lmaurer: | oertz, could you just add : 19h - 24h :Meet together down town event |
| 07:45:11 | oertz: | luc : ok |
| 07:45:18 | lmaurer: | helena let discuss about the closing session before you left |
| 07:45:51 | oertz: | so, the room line contains room names + capacitiy |
| 07:47:23 | oertz: | if someone has a feedback to make on the room attribution as capacity is quite different from one room to another |
| 07:47:28 | jmckenna: | ( i have a suggestion for business-side LT: Tori Moru from Orkney ( Japan )....who are using mapserver and grass..and repackaging both for sale in japan...i think 5 mins from that perspecitve might be good ) |
| 07:48:34 | helena: | the room attribution should probably be one off-line and we send you feedback by email - it needs careful reading of the program |
| 07:49:07 | lmaurer: | what about closing session ???? |
| 07:49:46 | oertz: | helena : you're right, so if we could have some feedback it would be nice... |
| 07:49:48 | helena: | we need to make sure that the people involved will be there ( I need to leave early friday afternoon ) |
| 07:49:53 | FrankW: | For closing session, I think 30 minutes is too much for the Sol Katz award. 15 minutes would be enough. It is just a couple short speaches. |
| 07:49:58 | jmckenna: | what are we going to do about Sol Katz award? too late to get the process going? |
| 07:50:13 | FrankW: | jmckenna: Not too late, but ... getting late. |
| 07:50:32 | jmckenna: | agreed. we need to do that this week |
| 07:50:33 | helena: | I need to go - I will read the log, bye |
| 07:50:36 | FrankW: | Lets get together after the meeting to get this going. |
| 07:50:43 | jmckenna: | k |
| 07:51:10 | lmaurer: | concerning the Sol Katz award what should be done ? |
| 07:51:41 | FrankW: | lmaurer: Jeff and I will solicit nominations and get 1-3 other folks to help in selection. |
| 07:51:50 | FrankW: | We also need to prepare a plaque. |
| 07:52:23 | lmaurer: | Ok FrankW do you need help from us local committee ? |
| 07:52:33 | lmaurer: | if you have a template for the plaque, we can do it |
| 07:53:02 | FrankW: | I'd be willing to make it up at this end and bring it. I think the timeslot is all we need. |
| 07:53:18 | : | * FrankW thinks the local committee has a lot on it's hands! |
| 07:53:30 | jmckenna: | also regarding closing session: where are we with next FOSS4G location? ( doh, I know I started an OSGeo thread but.... ) |
| 07:54:07 | oertz: | ok, 15min for Sol Katz |
| 07:54:27 | lmaurer: | OK so we can say : Sol Katz 13h30 - 13h45 |
| 07:54:42 | lmaurer: | what about panel discussion ? |
| 07:54:50 | oertz: | and you Franck/Jeff... manage the organization of SOlKatz |
| 07:55:04 | FrankW: | oertz: right |
| 07:55:10 | lmaurer: | and make the speach :- ) |
| 07:55:15 | FrankW: | If you can add a bit of time to the panel discussion I think that would be good. |
| 07:55:23 | oertz: | an osgeo panel discussion would be great |
| 07:55:23 | FrankW: | What is the topic? Is it a developer round table? |
| 07:55:33 | lmaurer: | we can split it ? |
| 07:56:12 | lmaurer: | but I think if we split it we have to chance the time |
| 07:56:17 | FrankW: | Last year there was a business track panel and a developer track panel. |
| 07:56:30 | oertz: | panel discussion : roundtable about an important subject of the moment, something boiling, new... |
| 07:56:35 | jmckenna: | ( and both were necessary ) |
| 07:57:10 | jmckenna: | then it should have perspectives from developers/users/business-types |
| 07:57:40 | lmaurer: | is it not better to have keynote before sol katz and panel discussion ? |
| 07:58:10 | marcriedo: | who's let as keynote friday afternoon ? |
| 07:58:34 | lmaurer: | Amstein and Raghavan |
| 07:59:24 | lmaurer: | so, conclusion ??? |
| 08:00:09 | marcriedo: | how much time for panel discussion ? 1 hour ? |
| 08:00:14 | FrankW: | lmaurer: i think it would be nice to breakup the keynotes. ie. keynote, sol katz, break, panel, keynote, closing. |
| 08:00:29 | FrankW: | marcriedo: perhaps 45 minutes? |
| 08:00:46 | FrankW: | The keynotes are already limited to 30 minutes on the schedule I have so we don't want to compress them any more. |
| 08:00:52 | FrankW: | And we don't want to go too late. |
| 08:00:57 | marcriedo: | seems good |
| 08:01:00 | jmckenna: | +1 on Frank's breakup suggestion |
| 08:01:13 | lmaurer: | Frank => I thing it could be done => we have decided that keynote = 40 minutes |
| 08:01:49 | lmaurer: | 13h30- 14h10 keynote |
| 08:02:11 | lmaurer: | 14h10-14h30 Sol Katz |
| 08:02:33 | lmaurer: | 14h30 - 15h : break |
| 08:02:57 | lmaurer: | 15h - 15h45 : panel |
| 08:03:07 | lmaurer: | 15h45 - 16h30 keynote |
| 08:03:26 | lmaurer: | 16h30 - 17h closing ??? ( to late for me ) |
| 08:04:13 | lmaurer: | is panel really important ? |
| 08:04:28 | marcriedo: | yes panel is important time for discussion |
| 08:04:30 | jmckenna: | yes, needed |
| 08:04:32 | FrankW: | I find the panel a highlight of the conference, but then I'm usually on it. |
| 08:04:39 | FrankW: | so perhaps I'm biased. :- ) |
| 08:05:00 | lmaurer: | Ok.....no problem for me... |
| 08:05:08 | FrankW: | marcriedo: exactly, a real chance for general discussion and the audience can ask leading questions. |
| 08:05:31 | lmaurer: | are you ok for a closing session from 16h30 to 17h ? |
| 08:05:55 | marcriedo: | who handles the closing session ... and do you see this session ? |
| 08:06:04 | jmckenna: | i prefer the panel right before the closing statement |
| 08:06:40 | jmckenna: | that way they can take what both keynotes have said into account |
| 08:06:49 | FrankW: | good point. |
| 08:06:56 | lmaurer: | OK for me ! |
| 08:07:35 | lmaurer: | 13h30- 14h10 keynote |
| 08:07:35 | lmaurer: | 14h10-14h30 Sol Katz |
| 08:07:35 | lmaurer: | 14h30 - 15h : break |
| 08:07:35 | lmaurer: | 15h45 - 16h30 keynote |
| 08:07:35 | lmaurer: | 16h30 - 17h closing ??? ( to late for me ) |
| 08:07:44 | lmaurer: | sorry .... |
| 08:08:52 | lmaurer: | here is the right timetable: |
| 08:08:52 | lmaurer: | 13h30- 14h10 keynote |
| 08:08:52 | lmaurer: | 14h10-14h30 Sol Katz |
| 08:08:52 | lmaurer: | 14h30 - 15h : break |
| 08:08:52 | lmaurer: | 15h - 15h45 : keynote |
| 08:08:52 | lmaurer: | 15h45 - 16h30 pannel |
| 08:08:54 | lmaurer: | 16h30 - 17h closing |
| 08:09:17 | lmaurer: | is it ok for you ? |
| 08:09:22 | FrankW: | 15h - 15h45 is not 40 minutes for the keynote. |
| 08:09:32 | lmaurer: | you right.... |
| 08:09:36 | FrankW: | Would it be evil to compress some time out of the break to finish sooner? |
| 08:09:59 | lmaurer: | no, I thing for friday it is ok => only 60 minutes ? |
| 08:10:24 | lmaurer: | but the problem is the conferences room are not all in the same area |
| 08:10:43 | FrankW: | The afternoon is not all in the same room? |
| 08:10:46 | lmaurer: | and we need to pay attention for everybody... that's why we had 90 minutes |
| 08:11:03 | FrankW: | ( I just meant the mid-afternoon break, not the lunch break ) |
| 08:11:14 | lmaurer: | sorry i am wrong the afternoo is all in the same room... |
| 08:11:23 | marcriedo: | 15 minutes is ok for the short break |
| 08:11:24 | lmaurer: | => no problem for 60 minutes lunch |
| 08:11:57 | lmaurer: | no 15 minutes is too short for break the morning but ok for the afternoon |
| 08:12:19 | marcriedo: | i was talking for the afternoon |
| 08:12:57 | FrankW: | I think the afternoon break was listead as 45m and I think 30m is fine if everyone is in same room. 15m would be ok with me, but might seem short. |
| 08:13:55 | marcriedo: | I think it is important that people don't leave before the panel discussion |
| 08:14:15 | marcriedo: | so it might be better to shorten the last break to 15 minutes |
| 08:14:27 | jmckenna: | +1 |
| 08:14:31 | lmaurer: | +1 |
| 08:14:41 | FrankW: | +0 |
| 08:14:56 | lmaurer: | I am workin on a new timetable => some minutes please.... |
| 08:15:50 | lmaurer: | 13h- 13h40 keynote |
| 08:15:50 | lmaurer: | 13h40-15h Sol Katz |
| 08:15:51 | lmaurer: | 15h - 15h20 : break |
| 08:15:51 | lmaurer: | 15h20 - 16h : keynote |
| 08:15:51 | lmaurer: | 16h - 16h40 pannel |
| 08:15:51 | lmaurer: | 16h40 - 17h closing |
| 08:16:20 | lmaurer: | oups sorry i come back with a correct one.... |
| 08:16:29 | FrankW: | This seems to have 35m for sol katz. I think 15m would be sufficient. |
| 08:17:11 | lmaurer: | 13h- 13h40 keynote |
| 08:17:12 | lmaurer: | 13h40-14h Sol Katz |
| 08:17:12 | lmaurer: | 14h - 14h20 : break |
| 08:17:12 | lmaurer: | 14h20 - 15h : keynote |
| 08:17:12 | lmaurer: | 15h - 15h40 pannel |
| 08:17:12 | lmaurer: | 15h40 - 16h closing |
| 08:17:30 | lmaurer: | Here is the correct one ! |
| 08:17:42 | FrankW: | This seems reasonable to me. |
| 08:17:49 | marcriedo: | Ok for me |
| 08:17:55 | oertz: | +1 |
| 08:18:00 | jmckenna: | +1 |
| 08:18:23 | lmaurer: | OK what next ? |
| 08:18:31 | oertz: | we are currently building the conference book. It will include a part dedicated to the description of each workshop/talk ( 100 words max per talk coming from what have been submitted online ). Is there a chance to have some volunteers to check the quality of the writing ? |
| 08:19:32 | marcriedo: | Do we have the title and abstract for the keynotes ? They should be in the conference book ? |
| 08:20:22 | oertz: | right Marc, we should ask them |
| 08:20:56 | marcriedo: | do we need that to publish the timetable ? |
| 08:21:10 | lmaurer: | NO ! |
| 08:21:31 | flag: | conference book: special chapter for keynotes ( presentation ), including abstract title I hope ; ) |
| 08:21:33 | lmaurer: | we have to publish the timetable tomorrow or better this evening ;- ) |
| 08:22:06 | oertz: | As we receive title we can update the online timetable |
| 08:22:14 | FrankW: | Does this mean we need titles for keynotes finalized now? |
| 08:22:21 | lmaurer: | => I will contact all keynote tomorrow to communicate the final timetable and |
| 08:22:26 | oertz: | it's not urgent |
| 08:22:31 | lmaurer: | I will ask for an abstract and a title... |
| 08:22:37 | flag: | conference book: need something like an editorial too, introductory material... |
| 08:22:48 | marcriedo: | olivier or luc ? can you handle the publication tonight ? |
| 08:22:54 | lmaurer: | I think is begin to be URGENT.... |
| 08:23:07 | jmckenna: | oertz: you should ask for volunteers for conference book review on ISC list i think |
| 08:23:19 | marcriedo: | Oups ... I got to catch my train ... see you |
| 08:23:35 | : | * markus_N is back |
| 08:23:53 | markus_N: | marcriedo requested mailing list subscription, should I grant it ( ISC2006 )? |
| 08:24:47 | lmaurer: | sorry, but I have to go... |
| 08:24:56 | oertz: | markus : yes please |
| 08:25:01 | jmckenna: | lmaurer: can i ask u a short question? |
| 08:25:14 | oertz: | I mean, we can publish the timetable today/tomorrow, ask for titles asap, and update the timetable as we receive titles |
| 08:25:53 | oertz: | jeff : ask your question |
| 08:26:58 | jmckenna: | booth organizers here at my company are wondering if exhibition will be on throughout opening and closing sessions as well |
| 08:27:36 | jmckenna: | ( they are wondering if they will have to have people at the booth during those times as well ) |
| 08:28:20 | oertz: | probably not, as all people will be at the session |
| 08:28:40 | jmckenna: | so the exhibition hall will be closed? |
| 08:28:43 | jmckenna: | for those? |
| 08:29:15 | oertz: | he, good question |
| 08:29:39 | oertz: | I will check this with Luc |
| 08:29:48 | jmckenna: | thank you |
| 08:29:51 | flag: | empty yes, closed I don't think so... |
| 08:29:59 | flag: | Any volunteer for the conference book editorial? |
| 08:30:10 | flag: | FranK? |
| 08:30:23 | oertz: | flag : jeff recoomad to ask by email to isc |
| 08:30:25 | FrankW: | I volunteer my wife for this task with my support. |
| 08:30:34 | FrankW: | She was a technical editor in a previous life. |
| 08:30:37 | jmckenna: | oertz: ok |
| 08:30:39 | FrankW: | And has some time this week. |
| 08:30:40 | flag: | k |
| 08:30:59 | flag: | I'd been pleased to assist a LT about communities galaxy: C one, Java, eogeo, ceos, mum, others... osgeo? If not a LT, maybe on the book? |
| 08:31:49 | flag: | thx to your wife ; ) |
| 08:32:01 | FrankW: | I wonder if she will thank me. :- ) |
| 08:32:58 | oertz: | ok, just before finishing, what about BOFs ? |
| 08:33:11 | oertz: | http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_at_FOSS4G2006#BOFs |
| 08:33:13 | sigq: | Title: OSGeo at FOSS4G2006 - OSGEO ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 08:33:14 | DodgyDude: | <http://ln-s.net/D1:> ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 08:33:25 | sigq: | Title: OSGeo at FOSS4G2006 - OSGEO ( at ln-s.net ) |
| 08:33:56 | oertz: | there is nothing in the timetable at this moment because we are not clear about the scheduling |
| 08:34:29 | oertz: | how were BOFs scheduled last year ? |
| 08:34:41 | jmckenna: | ( oertz i would also like to discuss workshops before people leave here ) - building installer etc |
| 08:35:47 | FrankW: | ( I also would like to talk about whether there is outstanding "track editor" work or if I missed it all in my sloth ) |
| 08:35:56 | jmckenna: | they were scheduled over breaks ( separate rooms at lunch times for each BOF )...some were at end of day |
| 08:38:13 | oertz: | ok, Allan proposes BOF time slots on the 12th and/or 13th say from 1900-2100. Or maybe even be able to eat and BOF at the same time? |
| 08:39:50 | FrankW: | I think having BOFs start shortly after sessions end makes sense. |
| 08:41:22 | oertz: | 12th and 13th : 6pm-7pm |
| 08:42:27 | oertz: | there are plenty of rooms available, so no problem to schedule a lastminute BOF |
| 08:44:10 | markus_N: | sorry, have to go |
| 08:45:31 | oertz: | so, before toalking about workshops, for timetable, we need a feedback to know if the planning is coherent in your opinion |
| 08:46:46 | oertz: | a question to cover : are rooms correctly affected to sessions ? please have a look and make us a feedback |
| 08:48:16 | oertz: | franck : what do you mean with "track editor", do you talk about the reviewing process ? |
| 08:49:40 | oertz: | Last point : workshop preparation |
| 08:50:52 | oertz: | we are currently doing the tricky part of dispatching registrant in workshops, trying to honour at best their wish list |
| 08:51:19 | oertz: | second point about workshops concerns the preparation/installation of rooms |
| 08:51:28 | jmckenna: | i would like to know if we plan to do an ms4w installer for workshop machines...i have made a nullsoft installer for this in the past conferences..and want to know if we will be doing something similar for this year |
| 08:51:50 | FrankW: | oertz: yes, the reviewing I was supposed to do but never did. Was it all done by the local folks? I wasn't clear on it. |
| 08:52:48 | oertz: | franck : yes, we short-circuited the process |
| 08:53:14 | oertz: | that why we have a timetable now |
| 08:53:35 | FrankW: | oertz: that's ok. I just wasn't clear if there were outstanding items I was still supposed to be done. |
| 08:53:39 | oertz: | all authors were informed about the acceptation of their talk |
| 08:54:39 | oertz: | as said, last point about reviewing concerns the writing quality for the conf book, perhaps will we have make some corrections |
| 08:55:12 | FrankW: | cool |
| 08:55:41 | oertz: | jeff, am ms4w installer would be interesting |
| 08:57:16 | jmckenna: | it has worked well in past..ok, do we have all of the software requirements? |
| 08:57:31 | oertz: | perhaps should we ask workshops organizer to build a nullsoft installer if it's relevent for their tools |
| 08:57:37 | jmckenna: | we should compile them |
| 08:57:42 | jmckenna: | hmm |
| 08:57:51 | jmckenna: | that's asking a lot i think |
| 08:57:59 | oertz: | ok |
| 08:58:36 | oertz: | I was trying to compile all these software requirements |
| 08:59:06 | jmckenna: | oertz: if you can help me compile the requirements i will dig up the old installer and modify it for new software |
| 08:59:56 | oertz: | you mean software requirements around ms4w ? |
| 09:00:19 | jmckenna: | right |
| 09:00:30 | jmckenna: | i mean what windows workshops require what |
| 09:00:58 | oertz: | yes, that's what I was trying to compile |
| 09:01:09 | jmckenna: | ( installer can install ossim, jump, ms4w,.... ) |
| 09:01:15 | oertz: | I delayed this task, but now it's time to go ahead |
| 09:01:30 | jmckenna: | i will help as well. |
| 09:02:03 | oertz: | thanx |
| 09:03:05 | jmckenna: | i am arriving on that Saturday to lend a hand with the room prep for workshops as well |
| 09:03:46 | oertz: | great |
| 09:03:50 | oertz: | I was just wondering, do we provide clean WinXP/SP2 machines and let organizers manage the preparation, or should we prepare more for them |
| 09:04:08 | jmckenna: | i was assuming we prepare all |
| 09:04:36 | jmckenna: | in past conferences we would install on one machine, then the lab admin would make an image of that machine and apply to all |
| 09:05:02 | oertz: | except if the organizer has a install party included in his wks |
| 09:05:32 | jmckenna: | um, as long as we know that |
| 09:05:32 | oertz: | ok for the ghost image broadcasting |
| 09:05:39 | jmckenna: | good |
| 09:06:17 | oertz: | I know there is a ghost broadcasting install in some rooms, but not all |
| 09:06:42 | oertz: | hope we can apply the image solution, meaning each PC is identical |
| 09:07:32 | jmckenna: | yes that would make things easy |
| 09:07:54 | oertz: | I will ask Thomas, the sysadmin, to be sure |
| 09:08:04 | jmckenna: | ok great |
| 09:09:03 | oertz: | so, let's continue the compilation of software requirements, I will send you a draft asap |
| 09:09:28 | jmckenna: | ok, and i will verify them with the feedback sent to the workshop alias |
| 09:10:22 | oertz: | did you send me these feedbacks ? I think so, I will have to dig in my inbox |
| 09:10:58 | jmckenna: | i think i did compile that and sent it to you...i will check again what i sent back then |
| 09:11:26 | oertz: | ok, so let's continue by email |
| 09:11:30 | oertz: | I've to leave |
| 09:12:11 | oertz: | thank you all for your help |
| 09:12:25 | FrankW: | I'll look forward to the booklet material to review. |
| 09:13:00 | jmckenna: | cya guys |
| 09:14:15 | FrankW: | jmckenna: do you have a few minutes to talk about the sol katz award? |
| 09:14:22 | FrankW: | http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Sol_Katz_Award |
| 09:14:23 | sigq: | Title: Sol Katz Award - OSGEO ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 09:14:42 | jmckenna: | yes |
| 09:15:00 | FrankW: | I was thinking of asking Paul Ramsey to also be on the selection committee. |
| 09:15:10 | FrankW: | Can you think of a couple more we should add? Hopefully not all Canadian! |
| 09:16:02 | FrankW: | and keeping in mind that folks on the selection committee will be eliminated for the award. |
| 09:16:54 | jmckenna: | i am thinking of Venka |
| 09:17:22 | jmckenna: | but he could also be nominated...hmm |
| 09:17:23 | FrankW: | OK, I'd be cool with his being involved. |
| 09:17:28 | jmckenna: | k |
| 09:17:40 | FrankW: | In fact, so might Paul or you. |
| 09:18:55 | jmckenna: | if they/we receive votes we can deal with that later |
| 09:19:13 | jmckenna: | 4. one more? |
| 09:19:34 | FrankW: | Votes? I was sort of assuming we would solicit nominations, and then vote within the selection committee. |
| 09:19:43 | jmckenna: | i mean nomination sorry |
| 09:19:50 | jmckenna: | yes |
| 09:19:56 | FrankW: | Based on our own "star chamber" opinions, and the convincingness of the nomination writeups. |
| 09:20:15 | jmckenna: | agreed |
| 09:20:23 | jmckenna: | oh sonny should be in there. |
| 09:20:28 | jmckenna: | this was his idea |
| 09:20:56 | jmckenna: | ( not sure if he can make foss4g, but he should be on selection committee ) |
| 09:21:01 | jmckenna: | in my opinion |
| 09:21:24 | FrankW: | That would be cool, if she is available health wise. |
| 09:21:33 | jmckenna: | yes true |
| 09:21:40 | jmckenna: | so 5 |
| 09:21:48 | : | * FrankW digs for email... |
| 09:22:13 | FrankW: | OK, I seem to have an email address for Sophia. I'll ask. |
| 09:22:13 | jmckenna: | i will contact Venka and Sophia and CC you. you contact Paul? or what do u think |
| 09:22:17 | jmckenna: | ok |
| 09:22:39 | jmckenna: | i will contact Venka and CC u |
| 09:22:50 | FrankW: | ok |
| 09:22:53 | FrankW: | sounds good. |
| 09:23:04 | FrankW: | I'll take care of sophia and paul. |
| 09:23:15 | jmckenna: | next: call for nominations end date |
| 09:23:23 | jmckenna: | or do we all 5 discuss that later |
| 09:23:47 | FrankW: | Well, I'd like to get a call for nominations out fairly soon. |
| 09:24:04 | jmckenna: | metoo |
| 09:24:09 | FrankW: | I'd like to write up the text in the wiki, and perhaps we can get the others to review it if they have a chance before we issue it. |
| 09:24:25 | FrankW: | Perhaps aim to have the call for nominations out by this weekend? |
| 09:25:01 | jmckenna: | k. i will dig up the old text i had for last year's award and put on wiki |
| 09:25:16 | FrankW: | That would be excellent! |
| 09:25:21 | jmckenna: | cool |
| 09:25:30 | FrankW: | I was just starting to dig around in gmail to see if I could find something. |
| 09:25:51 | jmckenna: | np |
| 09:26:34 | FrankW: | I'll setup up a "solkatzaward@conference.osgeo.org" mailing list for people to email list for folks to send nominations too, with the archive kept private. |
| 09:27:45 | jmckenna: | k great. i hope i still have the pic of Sol around, that would be nice to have again ( on screen at time of presentation ) |
| 09:27:58 | FrankW: | yes |
| 09:27:58 | jmckenna: | i think it is also on web somewhere |
| 09:28:14 | FrankW: | I think it is available in the Sol Katz wikipedia entry. |
| 09:28:23 | jmckenna: | yes that was it |
| 09:28:40 | jmckenna: | the 5 of us can decide on award |
| 09:30:37 | jmckenna: | and maybe we should chat briefly on friday to make sure we are ready to send out call for nominations |
| 09:31:20 | FrankW: | ok, sounds good. |
| 10:24:59 | jmckenna: | FrankW: i found the old docs for the sol katz award, including a pic from his daughter, bio from his daughter, and the full text i put together for the MUM3 program..i'll add them to the wiki now |
| 10:25:16 | FrankW: | excellent. |
| 11:27:41 | markusN: | hi gsherman_ - are you there ( for 2 minutes )? |
| 11:32:07 | markusN: | gsherman_: http://logs.qgis.org/foss4g2006/ is invisible again... |
| 11:32:10 | sigq: | Title: Index of /foss4g2006 ( at logs.qgis.org ) |
| 13:12:28 | markusN: | note: the logs are visible again thanks to gsherman |
| 13:15:36 | oertz: | luc : j'ai trouvé un moyen pour nipper/stauber |
| 13:15:45 | oertz: | mais cé bizzard |
| 13:17:29 | lmaurer: | ah oui, comment tu fais ? |
| 13:53:44 | pona: | y'a qqun |
| 13:54:03 | oertz: | pona : sur le local |
| 13:54:19 | pona: | c'est déjà quoi le nom de la room |
| 13:54:34 | oertz: | #local_foss4g2006 |
| 13:55:06 | markusN: | hi, if still needed, I think I can do a GRASS LT |
| 13:55:34 | lmaurer: | cool ! many thanks I think we will take it ! |
| 13:55:45 | markusN: | oops :- ) |
| 13:56:10 | oertz: | markus : would be great, it's so short, but so worth if you can do it |
| 13:56:27 | markusN: | ok, let's go for it |
| 13:56:44 | markusN: | I'll ask the community to contribute fancy screenshots, make it a community talk |
| 13:57:15 | markusN: | I just have to learn to speak as fast as Schuyler |
| 13:57:23 | markusN: | his talk was cool |