| 03:46:43 | lmaurer: | Olivier, peux-tu passer sur local stp |
| 04:05:50 | oertz: | j'arrive dans 5 minutes |
| 07:05:47 | oertz: | should we start ? |
| 07:06:14 | pona: | k |
| 07:06:24 | jmckenna: | ok |
| 07:07:02 | helena: | ok |
| 07:07:04 | oertz: | so, hello everybody : here is an agenda |
| 07:07:05 | oertz: | 1. Timetable feedback/update |
| 07:07:05 | oertz: | 2. Keynotes |
| 07:07:05 | oertz: | 3. Lightning Talks |
| 07:07:05 | oertz: | 4. BOFs |
| 07:07:05 | oertz: | 5. Sol Katz |
| 07:07:06 | oertz: | 6. Panel discussions |
| 07:07:08 | oertz: | 7. Workshops |
| 07:07:26 | oertz: | and probably 8. Misc |
| 07:07:26 | pona: | iwould add : 8. conference book |
| 07:07:26 | helena: | I would like to add sessions chairs |
| 07:07:59 | oertz: | ok Helena |
| 07:08:45 | pona: | timetable: I 'm updating the timetable in indico. I will be finished tonight I hope. So we will have all the advantages of indicao for late modification |
| 07:09:12 | pona: | contributors will be able to add their content -> slides, pdf,... |
| 07:09:27 | helena: | that is really nice |
| 07:09:33 | pona: | there are some errors on the program published |
| 07:09:49 | markusN: | hi, sorry for late |
| 07:10:45 | helena: | also some sessions could have more meaningful titles than DSK or DEV |
| 07:10:58 | pona: | for the chairs: we have some proposition-> always someone who is speaking in the session. It will be easier |
| 07:11:31 | helena: | at practically all conferences where I going the sessions chair is different from the people speaking |
| 07:11:45 | jmckenna: | true |
| 07:12:05 | helena: | so that the chair can focus on the session and not think about his presentation |
| 07:12:40 | oertz: | hmmm, good point |
| 07:13:12 | pona: | the problem is that it is not easy in all case to have a competent personn for the particular session qho is not speaking |
| 07:13:36 | pona: | Would you be able to make proposition, based on the published progam |
| 07:13:45 | markusN: | ( liem markusN for urban modleing :- ) ) |
| 07:13:48 | markusN: | *like |
| 07:15:53 | helena: | not really for anything except GRASS, Markus that urban session is mostly about analysis and modeling that are pretty good expert in |
| 07:15:55 | pona: | Olivier do you have the proposition from Marc Riedo for chair |
| 07:16:23 | helena: | sorry that are -> that you are |
| 07:16:46 | pona: | Olivier could you upload it on collab.net |
| 07:17:59 | oertz: | ok, I found it |
| 07:20:04 | oertz: | https://conference.osgeo.org/files/documents/42/270/Session_chair_proposal.odt |
| 07:20:47 | oertz: | but it probably follows the idea of affecting a session chair where he is also doing a talk in this session |
| 07:21:31 | pona: | yes it does, that what Marc said at least. But we can may be adapt from this list where it is possible |
| 07:21:43 | oertz: | you're right Helena, we will found some good session titles |
| 07:22:24 | jmckenna: | ( Dave McIlhagga will be the DMSG plenary person ) |
| 07:22:49 | helena: | pona: at least for some you can just switch people between sessions |
| 07:23:09 | pona: | of course |
| 07:23:18 | oertz: | and Helena, you said you want to add session chairs |
| 07:25:24 | oertz: | ok, so let's build a new proposal and ask people if they are ok |
| 07:25:48 | pona: | I think we should go on, I cannot stay on chat very long |
| 07:25:49 | helena: | the people will be probably the same, I would just move them around - e.g. Jim has keynote, 2 talks so I wanted to put him as a chair on Friday rather than Thursday |
| 07:26:31 | oertz: | ok done |
| 07:26:34 | helena: | I think I emailed you my chairs proposal already |
| 07:27:24 | pona: | keynote not much change we had to swap Jim and Venka, as venka has to leave Thursday already |
| 07:27:24 | oertz: | I think Marc has not received it |
| 07:27:49 | helena: | I will email it again |
| 07:27:54 | oertz: | thanx |
| 07:28:27 | oertz: | another thing about timetable ? |
| 07:29:13 | oertz: | pona, we will give to isc the link when the InDiCo timetable is finished with the last updates |
| 07:29:52 | pona: | yes |
| 07:30:14 | helena: | we should do the chairs when the timetable is settled ( e.g. to reflect the Jim Venka swap |
| 07:30:59 | oertz: | more to say about keynotes ? |
| 07:31:23 | pona: | keynote: we need all material by the end of the week: |
| 07:31:25 | pona: | Keynote we really need: 1 ) Short description about yourself ( biography ). 3-4 lines. |
| 07:31:25 | pona: | 2 ) A photograph |
| 07:31:25 | pona: | 3 ) Title of your presentation |
| 07:31:25 | pona: | 4 ) Abstract of your presentation. If you already submitted your abstract |
| 07:31:25 | pona: | in the conference system indico give the reference. |
| 07:31:26 | helena: | do we have ttles and abtracts for them? that would be good to post on the web site |
| 07:31:43 | helena: | ttles->titles |
| 07:32:22 | pona: | only form Jim forf now |
| 07:34:26 | pona: | nect point ? |
| 07:34:42 | oertz: | Lightning Talks |
| 07:34:51 | oertz: | http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Foss4g2006#Lightning_Talks |
| 07:34:52 | DodgyDude: | <http://ln-s.net/D12> ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:34:53 | sigq: | Title: Foss4g2006 - OSGEO ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:34:59 | sigq: | Title: Foss4g2006 - OSGEO ( at ln-s.net ) |
| 07:35:30 | oertz: | Markus, thak you for having confirmed your collaboration to the lightning talk time slot |
| 07:35:58 | pona: | so we miss only one? |
| 07:36:03 | oertz: | markus : do you have a title for your LT ? |
| 07:36:03 | pona: | any idea? |
| 07:36:04 | helena: | does it make sense to have two lightning talks by same person? |
| 07:36:44 | oertz: | ok yes, by Mr. ERLE, Schuyler, x2 |
| 07:36:53 | pona: | ERLE, Schuyler gave very good impression last year... |
| 07:36:56 | jmckenna: | i would think one geodata lightning talk is good |
| 07:37:12 | jmckenna: | ( 3 are listed ) |
| 07:37:23 | helena: | we have 3 on geodata, one general and one about actual FOSS4G |
| 07:37:37 | jmckenna: | i'd hope to see a broad coverage |
| 07:38:07 | jmckenna: | 1 geodata, 1 grass, 1 mapserver, 1 other project, ... |
| 07:38:18 | helena: | we don't have anything about the webGIS which is the most important current trend I think |
| 07:39:33 | jmckenna: | for example, Jo Walsh should be the geodata 5 minute, Paul Ramsey postgis, .... |
| 07:40:01 | markusN: | oertz: how fancy do you need the title to be? |
| 07:40:14 | oertz: | 1 geodata, 1 grass, 1 mapserver, 1 postgis, 1 desktop tool |
| 07:40:43 | jmckenna: | yes. maybe instead of "postgis" it should be "relational databases" or something |
| 07:40:57 | helena: | I would ask Schuyler to coordinate with Jo and leave his general neogeographer talk |
| 07:41:00 | pona: | -> geospatial database |
| 07:41:49 | oertz: | markus : what do you mean by fancy ? |
| 07:42:13 | jmckenna: | i see this as a way to get build some momentum for the conference...so getting people like Jo up there ( who has passion ) is great |
| 07:42:27 | helena: | markus: I don't think it needs to be fancy whatever that means |
| 07:43:27 | helena: | so what if we start with Shuyler Gis and Neo, then the software talks and have Jo to do the finale about data |
| 07:44:59 | jmckenna: | that sounds good. |
| 07:46:00 | pona: | Ok I will have to go pick up my son if I don't want they leave him on the street/ oertz: could you make sure the question about the conference book are adressed: english review Tyler?, osgeo presentation, editorial Frank? |
| 07:47:00 | oertz: | i've updated the wiki |
| 07:47:05 | markusN_: | oertz: re title: Isn't "GRASS GIS LT" enough or do you want "GRASS strikes again" or so? |
| 07:47:06 | oertz: | http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Foss4g2006#Lightning_Talks |
| 07:47:06 | DodgyDude: | <http://ln-s.net/D12> ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:47:07 | sigq: | Title: Foss4g2006 - OSGEO ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:47:09 | sigq: | Title: Foss4g2006 - OSGEO ( at ln-s.net ) |
| 07:47:43 | oertz: | ok for "GRASS strikes again" |
| 07:47:55 | markusN: | was a joke, but if you like it |
| 07:48:06 | oertz: | yes I like ;- ) |
| 07:48:11 | markusN: | 8 ) |
| 07:48:53 | oertz: | so we need someone for Webgis and an other one |
| 07:49:17 | jmckenna: | steve lime should be webgis |
| 07:49:53 | oertz: | k, you ask him and Paul also ? |
| 07:50:06 | jmckenna: | ok willdo |
| 07:50:19 | oertz: | great |
| 07:51:17 | oertz: | ask them to produce some titles ( Markus can help ;- ) ) |
| 07:52:22 | oertz: | the last one should be about Java GIS |
| 07:53:52 | oertz: | what about people from Geotools, as GeoTools is 10 years old ? |
| 07:54:32 | jmckenna: | yes that would be great. who is that contact? |
| 07:54:53 | oertz: | Jody Garnett I think |
| 07:55:34 | oertz: | I will ask him |
| 07:56:19 | oertz: | Next point : BOFs http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_at_FOSS4G2006#BOFs |
| 07:56:20 | DodgyDude: | <http://ln-s.net/D1:> ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:56:21 | sigq: | Title: OSGeo at FOSS4G2006 - OSGEO ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:56:23 | sigq: | Title: OSGeo at FOSS4G2006 - OSGEO ( at ln-s.net ) |
| 07:58:08 | oertz: | no news, except BOFs can be scheduled at lunch time and Wednesday between 18:00 and 20:00 |
| 07:59:00 | oertz: | Next : is the ball rolling for Sol Katz ? |
| 07:59:45 | jmckenna: | yes it is. a 5 person committee has been formed and the call for nominations went out |
| 08:00:10 | jmckenna: | can we add some text for this award to the program? |
| 08:00:30 | oertz: | yes |
| 08:00:43 | jmckenna: | just a general description..ok. who should it be sent to? |
| 08:01:16 | oertz: | please send it to conference@foss4g2006.org |
| 08:01:24 | jmckenna: | ok willdo |
| 08:01:56 | oertz: | we have also to think on good panel discussions for the closing plenary |
| 08:02:29 | helena: | did you get my email about Michael Tiemann of RedHat coming on Friday - he would great for pannel discussion |
| 08:02:38 | oertz: | sorry, we need to think OVER |
| 08:02:55 | oertz: | helena : yes, you're right |
| 08:04:07 | helena: | should I email him and ask him to paticipate? He is in India now and he will be returning through Europe |
| 08:04:41 | oertz: | yes, please Cc to conference@foss4g2006.org |
| 08:04:58 | helena: | OK |
| 08:05:43 | jmckenna: | i think here we put the great speakers and innovaters in the panel ( Jim Westervelt, Schyler, Frank, Paul Ramsey, Venka, Dave Mc,.. ) and the panel moderator is key..who do we have in mind for that? |
| 08:06:03 | jmckenna: | ( pus redhat guy sorry ) |
| 08:06:43 | oertz: | let's find the key ! |
| 08:07:17 | jmckenna: | actually Tyler Mitchel is good at that |
| 08:07:36 | jmckenna: | keen and interested |
| 08:08:44 | jmckenna: | but i think he did one last year. hmm |
| 08:09:05 | helena: | that should be Ok, I think |
| 08:09:43 | jmckenna: | fine by me. he's well spoken and respected |
| 08:10:14 | oertz: | k |
| 08:10:56 | markusN: | this is Michael Tiemann's interview from today: http://news.moneycontrol.com/india/newsarticle/stocksnews.php?autono=235936 |
| 08:15:28 | oertz: | ok, last point ? |
| 08:17:28 | oertz: | jeff : it's ok for workshop preparation ( http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Foss4g2006_wks ) |
| 08:17:31 | sigq: | Title: Foss4g2006 wks - OSGEO ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 08:19:01 | jmckenna: | sorry what do u mean "ok" ? |
| 08:19:41 | oertz: | there is only one point of view now among the local committee about how to do the preparation of the rooms |
| 08:20:17 | jmckenna: | great |
| 08:20:43 | jmckenna: | it looks good |
| 08:21:16 | jmckenna: | we need a final date for submitting all workshop files |
| 08:21:27 | oertz: | just a point, we will be the chief, this mean we will have to build the installers but also help sysadmin to deploy it on PCs |
| 08:21:35 | oertz: | right |
| 08:21:41 | jmckenna: | which must be sept 1st ? |
| 08:21:47 | oertz: | asap |
| 08:22:07 | jmckenna: | still a date must be set and message sent out or "asap" doesn't work |
| 08:22:12 | oertz: | I think Sept 1st is a quite secure deadline |
| 08:22:29 | oertz: | I know asap is flag for us |
| 08:22:40 | jmckenna: | k i agree with your point |
| 08:22:47 | jmckenna: | k |
| 08:23:10 | jmckenna: | how will they upload? |
| 08:23:28 | oertz: | I thought about the material upload func in InDiCo |
| 08:23:41 | jmckenna: | some data files will be large |
| 08:25:00 | oertz: | yes, that's the point were a ftp is better |
| 08:25:08 | jmckenna: | agreed |
| 08:25:09 | oertz: | ftp with space available of course |
| 08:25:16 | markusN: | the GRASS people have 1st Sept as deadline for the Workshop CD |
| 08:25:43 | markusN: | http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/wiki/GRASS_related_workshops_and_presentations#Live-CD_for_GRASS-related_workshops |
| 08:25:45 | sigq: | Title: GRASS related workshops and presentations - GRASS_Wiki ( at grass.gdf-hannover.de ) |
| 08:25:45 | DodgyDude: | <http://ln-s.net/DD5> ( at grass.gdf-hannover.de ) |
| 08:25:47 | sigq: | Title: GRASS related workshops and presentations - GRASS_Wiki ( at ln-s.net ) |
| 08:26:25 | helena: | i have just suggested to put the GRASS wks presentations on Indico so that we have more space for data on the CD, yes the deadline is Sept 1 |
| 08:26:26 | oertz: | great, so we can test it quickly in the room |
| 08:27:31 | oertz: | GRASS wks presentations can be upload on InDiCo, the main advantage with InDiCo is that it's automaticaly published |
| 08:27:52 | oertz: | jeff : I will ask at our side to open a ftp access |
| 08:28:20 | jmckenna: | oertz: that would be good |
| 08:28:58 | oertz: | markus : so you confirm that all GRASS workshops will use a LiveCD |
| 08:29:14 | oertz: | and Quantum GIS |
| 08:29:53 | markusN: | good question, I think so |
| 08:29:58 | jmckenna: | ( i will work on the win32 installer this weekend ) |
| 08:30:13 | oertz: | great |
| 08:30:15 | markusN: | Stephan Holl is in "charge" for that ( he does it for free ) |
| 08:31:47 | jmckenna: | also, the ftp site could be used for workshop presenters to place the exact installers they want us to use |
| 08:32:16 | jmckenna: | ( that way we don't have issues of versions ) |
| 08:32:20 | markusN: | jeff, what will the installer install? |
| 08:32:59 | jmckenna: | ms4w, and run external installers - postgres, postgis, ossim.... |
| 08:33:13 | jmckenna: | one exe for all |
| 08:33:18 | jmckenna: | is what it did in past |
| 08:33:44 | jmckenna: | nothing too fancy |
| 08:33:49 | jmckenna: | sufficient? |
| 08:34:25 | jmckenna: | or if someone wants i can handle ms4w version and someone else can do win32 installer |
| 08:35:08 | jmckenna: | i am open for suggestions |
| 08:35:37 | oertz: | do you have one installer you used last year |
| 08:35:50 | markusN: | there is also a setup.exe for QGIS+GRASS on Windows |
| 08:36:01 | markusN: | also done by Stephan Holl |
| 08:36:01 | jmckenna: | i have the scripts yes...nullsoft installer scripts... |
| 08:36:12 | jmckenna: | right so this could just call that exe |
| 08:36:13 | markusN: | yea, probably he also used it |
| 08:36:36 | markusN: | ( you could even unpack it under Wine in Linux ) |
| 08:37:28 | jmckenna: | that's getting beyond my expertise : ) |
| 08:37:54 | markusN: | yes, but will you put QGIS + GRASS as well into that? |
| 08:38:02 | jmckenna: | yes |
| 08:38:05 | oertz: | we will also have to install java/tomcat/geoserver/geonetwork/geoxygene |
| 08:38:20 | jmckenna: | ( that should be fun doh ) |
| 08:38:53 | jmckenna: | i've done java/tomcat/geoserver before at least...once hehe ) |
| 08:41:04 | oertz: | if I understand the process : you gather all the exe and with a nullscript you start the installs in a given order |
| 08:41:17 | jmckenna: | yes |
| 08:42:28 | jmckenna: | or else oertz and i do that manually the monday before on a single machine and copy to all....too last minute |
| 08:43:09 | jmckenna: | markusN: i am not an expert for this installer. if you see a better way please speak |
| 08:43:54 | jmckenna: | ( i think we want the easiest way ha, with the conference approaching ) |
| 08:44:06 | oertz: | yes |
| 08:45:13 | markusN: | ( I don't know anything about it, sorry... ) |
| 08:45:25 | jmckenna: | in the wkssoftrequirements file i see no versions listed |
| 08:45:39 | jmckenna: | ( no problem ) |
| 08:46:38 | oertz: | jeff : we need to aks each workshop the exact version we must download ans use, or to upload it on the ftp |
| 08:46:45 | jmckenna: | for example: i have no idea if mapbender can work with php4 and php5 |
| 08:46:52 | jmckenna: | ok thanks oertz |
| 08:47:39 | oertz: | let's build the mail and complete the wiki together, what do you think ? |
| 08:47:46 | jmckenna: | sounds good |
| 08:49:03 | oertz: | did you see the mail about workshop 45 ? |
| 08:50:00 | oertz: | I opened the wiki for workshop with the willing to answer all this type of questions ( sort of FAQ ) |
| 08:50:24 | jmckenna: | 45? |
| 08:50:41 | oertz: | from massimo.cuomo |
| 08:51:01 | oertz: | didn't you receive it ( ~one hour ago ) |
| 08:51:10 | jmckenna: | ah yes just reading now |
| 08:51:23 | jmckenna: | good, yes those are FAQs |
| 08:52:05 | jmckenna: | ok I have to go eat some food ha. i will help with the wiki and email out to workshop people |
| 08:52:27 | oertz: | thankx a lot, I've to leave also for dinner |
| 08:52:49 | oertz: | bon appetit |
| 08:58:29 | markusN: | me too, buon appetito |