#FOSS4G2006 IRC Log - 2006-08-30

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07:04:53 oertz: Do we start ?
07:05:02 lmaurer: Ok for me !
07:05:04 helena: I am ready
07:05:09 oertz: 30 min available for me
07:05:16 lmaurer: me too
07:05:24 FrankW: I'm here.
07:05:32 jmckenna: k
07:05:47 helena: we have a hole in the program on thursday - I assume that the speaker cannot come
07:06:09 oertz: yes, some have declined
07:06:33 helena: should we move e.g. the siting mobile stations talk from Friday to that slot and shift everything on friday one talk up?
07:07:23 FrankW: Making room on Friday seems desirable
07:08:39 oertz: could be odne yes
07:08:42 oertz: done
07:09:09 helena: will it show up in Indico?
07:10:04 oertz: ok let's shift this, I will see with Claude, he is in charge of the indico timetable
07:10:29 lmaurer: He will do it this night..... he is unavailable now...
07:10:38 oertz: ;- )
07:11:25 oertz: do you have more remark to do on the scheduling of the presentations ?
07:11:34 oertz: markus are you there ?
07:11:52 helena: for the chairs I suggest thu morning Jim, afternoon Markus, Fri. morning Helena ( S12 ) but I need suggestion for S11 GRASS and Web
07:12:48 oertz: that's a tricky point, who can/want to be chair
07:13:07 helena: yes it is
07:13:08 oertz: ok helena for S12
07:13:23 oertz: now for S11 and all other sessions
07:14:13 helena: Jim W S3 morning Markus S3 afternoon
07:14:32 helena: but I will have to ask them
07:15:08 oertz: what about choosing someone from the session ?
07:15:34 oertz: oh yes, you said if she/he has a talk, it's hard to concentrate on the session , sure !
07:15:42 lmaurer: I think it is a good idea !
07:15:50 helena: we already discussed that it is tricky and usually not done because the chair then has to focus on both his presentation and others
07:16:05 FrankW: Amoung other things the session chair needs to watch the clock for the speakers.
07:16:28 oertz: yes, he needs to be very strict for the timing
07:16:36 helena: yes, and make sure that everybody is there before the session and their talk works
07:16:41 lmaurer: we can say a presenter of the morning is chairs the afternoon and vice-versa
07:16:55 helena: that can work
07:17:19 lmaurer: what do you think oertz
07:17:33 oertz: does not work for friday
07:18:21 lmaurer: Ok, so let us choose someone just for friday
07:18:25 oertz: but it's a good idea, I do not really see another solution rather than a mailing to everyone and ask for volunteers
07:19:14 lmaurer: it could be a solution for friday
07:19:20 FrankW: I would agree, we can call for volunteers and if that isn't enough start strong arming people into it.
07:19:56 oertz: do we make this call only for Friday ?
07:20:07 lmaurer: yes I think
07:20:43 lmaurer: it is better to have chairs who know the subject
07:21:05 FrankW: .. and at least some of the speakers.
07:21:18 lmaurer: you right :- )
07:21:42 lmaurer: => do we need to ask all presenter a small presentation of some words ?
07:21:59 lmaurer: so he can give it to the chair
07:22:01 FrankW: Do we have "bios" for presenters?
07:22:20 FrankW: If not, the session chairs will need to get a bit of background on each presenter. Either from them, or based on previous knowledge.
07:22:34 oertz: yep, that's right
07:22:38 lmaurer: I think it could be a good idea to ask the chairs to prepare something
07:22:58 lmaurer: he will make a contact directly with the presenter because we will not
07:23:07 lmaurer: have time to prepare it for him
07:23:30 lmaurer: what to you think oertz ; )
07:23:58 helena: I planned to ask the chairs to contact rpesenters from their session, make sure that they are actually comming and they can get a short bio from them at the same time
07:24:15 lmaurer: ok for me
07:24:19 FrankW: sounds good as long as we provide contact info.
07:24:33 helena: the emails are on the abstract page
07:24:50 oertz: so, let's see for voluntters for session chairs, and ask them to contact speakers to compile some "bios"
07:25:01 helena: but I am not sure whether everybody sees it - I guess yes
07:25:27 oertz: helean : yes
07:25:39 lmaurer: voluntters only for friday isn't it ?
07:26:05 FrankW: Well, we would still have to approach specific presenters for the earlier sessions, right?
07:26:40 oertz: we could generalize the mailing process for all days
07:27:21 FrankW: When you talk about a mailing, is it to all presenters?
07:27:47 lmaurer: ok for me, I am just afraid of the work to do just to make the planning of chairs !!!
07:27:49 helena: it would be nice if the committee member from say mapserver community suggested the chairs for mapserver related sessions etc. That way most of us just have to talk to 3-4 people
07:28:05 FrankW: I would suggest mailing all presenters for volunteers and then start approaching individual presenters if we still have holes to fill.
07:28:31 oertz: luc : we will do our best
07:29:04 lmaurer: sure we will do our best :- ) => I will help you...
07:29:12 helena: Frank: with that approach you may get too many responses to handle ( or too little )
07:29:36 FrankW: helena: true
07:29:42 FrankW: likely too little.
07:30:01 helena: the that would not be such a problem
07:31:09 jmckenna: i have a few questions that i'd like to squeeze in
07:32:02 helena: go ahead
07:32:50 : * markus_N chimes in
07:33:06 jmckenna: i'm curious of registration numbers now
07:33:38 oertz: luc ?
07:33:44 helena: you can get it from indico and see exactly who is coming
07:33:47 lmaurer: in 2 minutes !
07:33:56 jmckenna: i mean totals
07:34:22 oertz: just for session chairs : let's think on targetting our mailing towards really potential session chair, and ask communities
07:34:46 FrankW: oertz: sounds ok
07:34:54 lmaurer: Social Event 313
07:34:54 lmaurer: Conférence 436
07:34:54 lmaurer: Workshop 363
07:35:11 jmckenna: thanks also, do "sponsor presentations" on Wednesday morning need a title for the program?
07:35:20 jmckenna: ( thanks lmaurer )
07:35:35 lmaurer: no problem
07:36:34 jmckenna: and finally i am curious of the plans for the final panel discussion
07:37:10 oertz: we need to ask Tyler for moderator
07:37:18 oertz: ( have to leave in 3 min )
07:37:54 jmckenna: who is to be on the panel?
07:38:22 oertz: Westervelt, Schuyler, Warmerdam, Ramsey, Venka, Mcilhagga, Tiemann ) + moderator Tyler Mitchell
07:38:41 jmckenna: k thanks
07:38:51 oertz: but we have to mail them and confirm
07:39:18 helena: should you ask Jo to be there as well? to get the data related issues
07:39:30 jmckenna: great idea
07:39:34 oertz: ( sorry have to leave, back in 2 hours )
07:39:52 flag: ( help needed for confbook: does anybody know where we could find Aaron's osgeo vector drawings in another format than corel draw :-/ )
07:40:09 lmaurer: jmckenna : I don't think so => it is just a presentation of company and/or product of 5 minutes => it's more like a Lightning Talks
07:40:32 markus_N: flag: did you ask him? Maybe he can export
07:40:34 jmckenna: lmaurer: ok thanks lmaurer, i will pass that info on here
07:41:45 markus_N: ( should be Aaron Koning <aaronkoning@gmail.com> )
07:42:01 flag: ( thx )
07:42:10 helena: markus, do you have any suggestion for session chair friday morning ( python and image processing )
07:42:13 markus_N: olala: Aaron Koning ( aaronkoning@gmail.com )
07:42:24 helena: I have you for thutsday afternoon, Jim for the morning
07:42:31 markus_N: Alessandro Frigeri
07:42:54 markus_N: he is involved in the ESA Mars mission and presents the GRASS-Python interface
07:43:13 : * markus_N doesn't remember his session
07:43:28 markus_N: 'geoalf' in IRC
07:44:00 helena: Alessandro is speaker in that session so I need somebody else, I don't know Aaron
07:44:28 markus_N: ah. nor me... Maybe Ari knows him and can recommend
07:44:59 FrankW: I would be willing to chair python and image processing session.
07:46:53 FrankW: Isn't Aaron Koning a mapguide fellow? Did the OSGeo logo?
07:46:53 helena: that is great - that is Friday morning S11
07:48:31 jmckenna: for the record oertz and i are compiling workshop requirements, so the work ( building the installer ) will be a priority now ( making sure all needed software is installed )...big job.
07:50:07 markus_N: jmckenna: am I right that the GRASS workshops are not affected since they do the liveCD thing?
07:50:35 jmckenna: jmckenna: correct
07:50:58 markus_N: ok thanks
07:51:16 jmckenna: ha oops
07:54:40 lmaurer: concerning Sol Katz => everything is OK ?
07:54:56 lmaurer: do you need support from local committee ?
07:55:01 FrankW: yes, I believe so.
07:55:07 jmckenna: yes, call for nominations close 31st
07:55:12 FrankW: I don't forsee anything needed, other than the time slot.
07:56:35 lmaurer: ok for time slot :- )
08:02:57 lmaurer: FrankW => do you have news concerning the editorial for the conference book ?
08:03:21 : * FrankW stared at a blank page for some time and blinked.
08:03:30 FrankW: But I'm feeling very guity about it.
08:03:40 FrankW: Right now, I'm struggling to finish the keynote abstract.
08:03:58 FrankW: The keynote abstract was supposed to be about 200 words, is that right?
08:04:05 FrankW: And the editorial about 400?
08:05:55 FrankW: I have this for my keynote, does it look ok? http://rafb.net/paste/results/lkS3r626.html
08:06:49 lmaurer: right for both !
08:07:55 FrankW: OK, for today I need to focus on preparing my projections presentation ( to give a test run at OSGeo Ottawa meeting tomorrow ) and the editorial.
08:08:43 FrankW: Can you provide some numbers for the past conference attendances for my "we are growing" thing in the editorial?
08:09:32 lmaurer: I have to ask claude for that
08:11:16 lmaurer: keynote abstract sounds good => can I send it to the "redaction" :- )
08:12:01 lmaurer: ( sorry I have to leave, back in 2 hours too )
08:12:08 FrankW: yes, please consider it a formal submission.
08:12:15 FrankW: hmm, that was quick.
08:12:35 FrankW: So, is the meeting deferred till oertz and/or lmaurer return?
08:13:08 jmckenna: FrankW: i believe OSGIS/MUM2 was 200 roughly. OSG05/MUM3 was 300 roughly. FOSS/GRASS 04 - prob around 200
08:13:39 FrankW: And MUM1?
08:14:07 jmckenna: not sure about that one ( i went back to school during that one )
08:15:06 FrankW: and I never made it. I figured this whole "mapserver thing" would blow over. :- )
08:15:47 jmckenna: i'd guess 100
08:17:19 jmckenna: danmo might be able to give u numbers on brazil conference
08:17:40 FrankW: I think that's enough.
08:17:55 FrankW: I just want to give a sense of our growth, and not use completely inaccurate numbers.
08:30:53 flag: FranK?
08:32:21 FrankW: flag; yes?
08:32:38 flag: http://rafb.net/paste/results/lkS3r626.html doesn't seem to respond
08:33:17 flag: I need your keynote content ; )
08:34:01 FrankW: Where would you like to email it? The url does work for me by the way.
08:34:11 flag: ooops sorry ( ok with msie, timeout with FF??? )
08:34:26 FrankW: ok with my FF.
08:34:34 FrankW: so you have it?
08:40:51 flag: yes
08:41:02 flag: thx
11:32:31 lmaurer: FrankW => did you send your photo to Claude or not ?
11:33:12 FrankW: Photo, no I forgot.
11:34:27 lmaurer: Do you have one ?
11:35:01 FrankW: I have a reasonable picture taken at OSGeo'02 that I'd like to use. Looking for it now.
11:35:17 FrankW: I should say the '04 conference.
11:35:20 lmaurer: OK thanks
11:36:18 FrankW: http://home.gdal.org/warmerda/osgeo.jpg
11:36:46 FrankW: The only real alternative to that I have handy is:
11:37:13 FrankW: http://home.gdal.org/warmerda/Frank2.png
11:37:14 FrankW: Which is a bit on the formal side!
11:41:21 lmaurer: FrankW many thanks I will send these links to the person who is responsable of the conference book => he will choose :- )
11:42:15 FrankW: ok
12:40:34 pona: ( 18:08:41 ) FrankW: Can you provide some numbers for the past conference attendances for my "we are growing" thing in the editorial?warmer
12:40:34 pona: To answer to your question: from what I remember:
12:40:42 pona: mum1 : around 90
12:40:50 pona: mum2 : was not there should ask jeff
12:40:56 pona: mum3 : around 300
12:41:13 lmaurer: read the log....at the end
12:41:25 pona: foss4g2006: around 450 ( more if we count separatly attendees coming only to workshop or conference )
12:41:25 FrankW: great, thanks
18:38:34 : * spatialguru comes expecting answers : )