#GRASS IRC Log - 2009-04-07

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01:27:44 CIA-9: neteler * r36604 /grass/trunk/vector/vectorintro.html: Added map naming convention
01:28:49 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36604]: Added map naming convention <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36604>
01:30:04 CIA-9: neteler * r36605 /grass/branches/develbranch_6/vector/vectorintro.html: Added map naming convention
01:30:05 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36605]: Added map naming convention <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36605>
01:30:15 CIA-9: neteler * r36606 /grass/branches/releasebranch_6_4/vector/vectorintro.html: Added map naming convention
01:32:51 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36606]: Added map naming convention <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36606>
01:39:18 CIA-9: neteler * r36607 /grass/trunk/vector/vectorintro.html: grammar
01:39:26 CIA-9: neteler * r36608 /grass/branches/develbranch_6/vector/vectorintro.html: grammar
01:39:33 CIA-9: neteler * r36609 /grass/branches/releasebranch_6_4/vector/vectorintro.html: grammar
01:40:52 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36609]: grammar <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36609> || Changeset [36608]: grammar <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36608> || Changeset [36607]: grammar <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36607>
02:22:34 pavallo11: hello!
02:22:40 doktoreas: hi pavallo11
02:22:48 pavallo11: finally!!
02:23:06 pavallo11: it's 2 days i'm trying to connect with the cgi....
02:23:10 pavallo11: ok
02:23:30 pavallo11: I need an help with rectify.. anybody who can give me some support?!?
02:23:30 doktoreas: : )
02:29:45 pavallo11: sry to repeat but...
02:29:53 pavallo11: I need help with i.rectify
02:30:01 pavallo11: some1 can help me plz???
02:31:11 doktoreas: pavallo11, have you tried the ml?
02:37:28 pavallo11: yes I've sended a msg but no reply by now... maybe it's too early...
05:04:32 markusN: please try the new winGRASS installer - http://download.osgeo.org/grass/grass64/binary/mswindows/native/
05:04:33 sigq: Title: Index of /grass/grass64/binary/mswindows/native ( at download.osgeo.org )
05:04:49 markusN: if ok, we can release 6.4.0RC4
05:37:28 pavallo111: anybody can help me with i.rectify plz???
05:41:10 markusN: yes
05:41:12 markusN: too late
05:58:48 pavallo111: markus sorry are you still there?
05:59:38 : * pavallo111 slaps markusN around a bit with a large trout
06:02:51 pavallo111: anybody can help me with i.rectify plz???
06:04:17 aghisla: pavallo111: are you kidding?? do you know who markusN is?
06:04:30 aghisla: :P
06:04:48 pavallo111: sry what?
06:04:50 pavallo111: who is?
06:05:08 aghisla: search for markus neteler on the web...
06:05:21 pavallo111: sry but I was playing with mirc, I was trying to call him...
06:05:33 pavallo111: maybe one of the developer??
06:06:01 pavallo111: :P
06:07:02 pavallo111: ops...
06:07:05 pavallo111: damn..
06:07:06 aghisla: : )
06:07:06 pavallo111: !!
06:17:08 pavallo111: markus are you there?
06:22:56 pavallo111: markus sry are you there?
06:24:52 jachym: @seen markusn
06:24:52 sigq: jachym: markusn was last seen in #grass 43 minutes and 39 seconds ago: <markusN> too late
06:25:04 jachym: @seen markusm
06:25:04 sigq: jachym: I have not seen markusm.
06:25:52 pavallo111: markus sry are you there?
06:37:38 pavallo111: markus sry are you there?
06:42:35 pavallo111: @seen MarkusN
06:42:35 sigq: pavallo111: MarkusN was last seen in #grass 1 hour, 1 minute, and 22 seconds ago: <markusN> too late
06:48:25 markusN: now yes
06:48:33 markusN: I guess I should not scroll back
06:49:06 pavallo111: so markus can you help me with i.rectify plz?
06:49:52 markusN: did you try the georectifier in gis.m?
06:50:13 markusN: http://grass.osgeo.org/screenshots/gui.php#tcltk
06:50:15 sigq: Title: GRASS GIS: User interface screenshots ( at grass.osgeo.org )
06:50:17 markusN: -> Georectification tool
06:50:18 pavallo111: yes
06:50:26 pavallo111: but are those different commands?
06:50:38 markusN: no it's a GUI for i.*
06:50:56 pavallo111: ok
06:51:19 pavallo111: cause I think i have a problem with i.rectify
06:51:49 pavallo111: anyway the georectifier in gis.m gives me an error
06:51:55 pavallo111: RASTER didn't found
06:52:09 pavallo111: if you give me a couple of minutes i can give you the right message
06:52:12 markusN: note that GRASS 6.2.3 isn't that new
06:52:28 markusN: what does "g.region -p" say in both source and target mapsets
06:52:39 markusN: maybe you are working at nanometer resolution?
06:52:52 pavallo111: ( I'm using the installation of GRASS DVD live from trento university v. 3.0 on VMPlayer )
06:53:50 pavallo111: I'm using for private use ( studying Grass ) a JPEG exported ( using save image commando ) from Google Earth
06:54:36 pavallo111: I can use GRASS 6.4 if you want but it's reported to be svn in this installation...
06:55:13 pavallo111: no I'm not working at nanometer resolution
06:55:43 pavallo111: the fact is that I really don't know what will be the final resolution and region of the raster to create
06:55:52 pavallo111: as I'm trying to georeference this image
06:56:07 markusN: please post g.region -p in raft ( see URL in chat topic )
06:57:14 pavallo111: ok
06:57:30 pavallo111: the vm running grass is on an other computer
06:57:45 pavallo111: how can i access a location/mapset through ssh?
07:00:47 markusN: ssh machine
07:00:47 pavallo111: http://rafb.net/p/qQ4XSO95.html ( i've catted the result to a file and then posted the content of the file; this is the target location )
07:00:48 sigq: Title: Nopaste - g.region -p ( at rafb.net )
07:00:49 markusN: grass63
07:00:52 markusN: grass64
07:01:08 markusN: cells: 900000000 isn't particularly small
07:01:25 markusN: "error while writing to temp file" suggests a disk full to me
07:01:34 pavallo111: 1.7 gb free
07:01:54 pavallo111: running the commmand with watch df -h reported just a couple of hundred mb of use
07:02:25 pavallo111: you can read my mail from grass-user ml if you want
07:02:33 pavallo111: just tell i'll post the link from the archive
07:02:34 markusN: 900000000 * 32 bytes = 2.88e+10 bytes
07:02:46 markusN: and you have this twice I guess ( original + new map )
07:03:04 pavallo111: the original is imported in an xy location...
07:03:22 pavallo111: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-user/2009-April/049828.html
07:03:23 sigq: Title: [GRASS-user] i.rectify: how to make it works?!?!? ( at lists.osgeo.org )
07:03:24 markusN: that makes no difference
07:03:50 markusN: my current answer is: buy a bigger disk
07:04:05 pavallo111: sry?
07:04:19 markusN: space needed: 900000000 * 32 * 2 / 1024/ 1024/ 1024 = 53.64418 GB if I am not wrong
07:04:22 pavallo111: I don't want to have a final raster that big!
07:04:28 markusN: ah!
07:04:35 markusN: so change the resolution!
07:04:42 markusN: g.region res=10 for example
07:04:43 pavallo111: !
07:04:48 markusN: or whatever is suitable
07:04:48 pavallo111: ok
07:05:43 pavallo111: how can I find out the resolution I need to export an image taken from 1.75 km of altitude ( as GEarth reports )?
07:05:44 pavallo111: I mean...
07:05:58 pavallo111: I just want to rectify and georefernce an image from gearth
07:06:02 pavallo111: how can i do this?
07:06:44 markusN: you have a license for the google earth data, right?
07:07:05 pavallo111: sorry
07:07:08 markusN: of course that's your business
07:07:10 pavallo111: did i sayd gearth?
07:07:18 markusN: at least in the public mails
07:07:37 pavallo111: i was meaning i was flying with our company airplane over it while i shot the photo with my camera................
07:07:59 pavallo111: sry for the kind of response but that's for private use
07:08:19 pavallo111: as anybody here is talking about license
07:08:25 pavallo111: I've read it
07:08:41 pavallo111: and it don't report any abuse for private use
07:08:54 pavallo111: but I should go and read the license from TANA
07:09:00 pavallo111: or digital atlas as well
07:09:21 pavallo111: as they are the company in charge of the right of the data
07:09:23 markusN: I mean - the GE data are geocoded
07:09:45 markusN: anyway
07:09:48 pavallo111: yes but in their DBs...
07:09:57 markusN: try to use the correct map resolution and then I guess it will work
07:09:58 pavallo111: google earth exported data is not geocoded
07:10:10 markusN: maybe there is a reason :p
07:10:16 pavallo111: or telefonica hasn't good map in their DBs....
07:10:25 pavallo111: yes of course :D
07:10:31 pavallo111: i can understand...
07:10:31 markusN: according to your g.region settings your disk is too small
07:11:04 pavallo111: but i was trying just to use i.rectify cause it can be interesting in our company for projecting map
07:11:32 pavallo111: with data buyed or getted in a legal way!
07:11:41 pavallo111: ( sry for english )
07:12:07 markusN: to reproject geocoded maps, better use v.proj and r.proj
07:12:11 pavallo111: so basically it can be that we get data in a non-geocoded format
07:12:11 markusN: or i.warp from Addons
07:12:21 pavallo111: sry
07:12:42 pavallo111: sometimes we can get "rasters" in a non geocoded format
07:12:43 markusN: if you want to exercise i.rectify, better start with known and public data, e.g. the North Carolina data set
07:12:53 markusN: http://grass.osgeo.org/download/data.php
07:12:54 sigq: Title: GRASS GIS: Sample Data Download ( at grass.osgeo.org )
07:12:57 markusN: sure
07:12:59 pavallo111: and contractors just want it to be there
07:13:03 markusN: then i.rectify is fine
07:13:08 pavallo111: I already did it
07:13:31 markusN: ok what's the problem then?
07:13:32 pavallo111: I was doing this because finish that section in the university of trento tutorial
07:13:35 pavallo111: ok
07:13:49 : * markusN cannot follow
07:14:11 pavallo111: trying to import a gearth ( as an example ) image to a wgs84 utm29 projected location.... having 3 GCP ( sure known points )
07:14:23 pavallo111: and from there export a geotiff
07:14:53 markusN: so, did you retry with my g.region res suggestion?
07:14:57 markusN: now works?
07:15:04 pavallo111: no
07:15:08 pavallo111: i was flaming with you :P:P:P
07:15:47 markusN: no need
07:15:47 pavallo111: sry
07:16:07 pavallo111: when i run i.rectify do i have to use the -c flag in the command?
07:16:32 pavallo111: because i would like i.rectify to find out best region and resolution for creating the raster....
07:17:51 markusN: as you like... just enjoy "g.manual i.rectify"
07:17:57 markusN: is the manual unclear?
07:18:21 pavallo111: no is not
07:19:26 markusN: which phrase is unclear?
07:19:37 pavallo111: ( grass stucked )
07:19:44 markusN: http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/i.rectify.html
07:19:45 sigq: Title: GRASS GIS manual: i.rectify ( at grass.osgeo.org )
07:19:50 markusN: grass stucked?
07:19:56 pavallo111: yes
07:20:02 pavallo111: stopped
07:20:05 pavallo111: blocked
07:20:29 pavallo111: d.rgb is using 99% of cpu
07:20:36 pavallo111: displayed by top
07:20:43 markusN: so I suggest to update GRASS first
07:20:46 pavallo111: ok i have it
07:20:54 markusN: 6.2 -> 6.3: 3500 fixes
07:21:05 markusN: 6.3 -> 6.4: 1500 fixes + improvements
07:21:16 markusN: maybe useful... to make use of those fixes
07:21:19 pavallo111: i got a 6.4 svn version
07:21:33 pavallo111: how can i tell you what version is with precision
07:21:39 pavallo111: with what command?
07:22:29 markusN: g.version
07:22:44 pavallo111: GRASS 6.4 svn ( 2008 )
07:23:27 pavallo111: sry markus but running i.rectify -c didn't helped me alot
07:23:30 markusN: ls -la $GISBASE/etc/VERSION
07:23:38 markusN: of which date is the file?
07:24:06 pavallo111: 2008-07-12
07:24:11 markusN: ok
07:24:16 pavallo111: isn't that old, it is?
07:24:20 markusN: yes old
07:24:25 markusN: :p
07:24:39 markusN: no should be ok
07:24:45 pavallo111: cause downloading grass is a pain here as we are in umts connection with 4 users!!!
07:24:45 markusN: for i.rectify at least
07:24:56 markusN: uhm not my fault
07:25:02 pavallo111: of course..!
07:25:09 markusN: note that GRASS 5 was 130MB
07:25:17 markusN: and now we have 35MB or so
07:25:42 pavallo111: mh that's amazing
07:25:46 pavallo111: some cleaning..?
07:25:48 pavallo111: :P
07:25:49 markusN: so if -c doesn't work then better don't use it
07:25:52 markusN: much cleaning
07:25:56 pavallo111: so basically
07:26:06 pavallo111: let's start again
07:26:13 markusN: you can try the trick documented in http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/r.proj.html
07:26:14 sigq: Title: GRASS GIS manual: r.proj ( at grass.osgeo.org )
07:26:18 markusN: -> NOTES
07:26:25 markusN: the same applies to i.rectify without .c
07:26:27 markusN: -c
07:26:46 pavallo111: ???
07:26:54 pavallo111: and what about the GCP?^??
07:26:55 markusN: did you read it???
07:27:02 pavallo111: i did used it!
07:27:09 markusN: v.in.region and so?
07:27:26 pavallo111: v.in.region? i don't know it
07:27:29 markusN: how should I know?
07:27:35 markusN: did you read what I wrote?
07:27:46 markusN: please take your time to read the suggestions...
07:27:54 markusN: let me repeat:
07:27:56 cgs_bob: hello all. I have point feature that does not cover the whole region. I want to use v.surf.rst, but I know I'll get the stair step results in the areas without points. got any suggestions on how to prevent that?
07:27:58 markusN: you can try the trick documented in http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/manuals/html64_user/r.proj.html
07:27:59 sigq: Title: GRASS GIS manual: r.proj ( at grass.osgeo.org )
07:28:08 markusN: -> see "NOTES" there
07:28:36 markusN: cgs_bob: yes, you need to disable segmentation
07:28:50 markusN: http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/RST_Spline_Surfaces#Getting_rid_of_those_segmentation_boxes
07:28:54 sigq: Title: RST Spline Surfaces - GRASS-Wiki ( at grass.osgeo.org )
07:29:04 markusN: ( the page can be improved of course, feel free to hack )
07:29:13 markusN: ok have to run
07:29:15 markusN: see 'ya
07:29:41 pavallo111: bye all
07:29:48 cgs_bob: markusN: I have over 10,000. I was kind of hoping that there was a way to make a mask
11:13:14 CIA-9: neteler * r36610 /grass/trunk/db/drivers/mysql/describe.c: support MYSQL_TYPE_NEWDECIMAL; treat as MYSQL_TYPE_DECIMAL
11:13:15 CIA-9: neteler * r36611 /grass/branches/develbranch_6/db/drivers/mysql/describe.c: support MYSQL_TYPE_NEWDECIMAL; treat as MYSQL_TYPE_DECIMAL
11:13:19 CIA-9: neteler * r36612 /grass/branches/releasebranch_6_4/db/drivers/mysql/describe.c: support MYSQL_TYPE_NEWDECIMAL; treat as MYSQL_TYPE_DECIMAL
11:15:13 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36612]: support MYSQL_TYPE_NEWDECIMAL; treat as MYSQL_TYPE_DECIMAL <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36612> || Changeset [36611]: support MYSQL_TYPE_NEWDECIMAL; treat as MYSQL_TYPE_DECIMAL <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36611> || Changeset [36610]: support MYSQL_TYPE_NEWDECIMAL; treat as MYSQL_TYPE_DECIMAL <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36610>
12:17:20 CIA-9: neteler * r36613 /grass/branches/develbranch_6/raster/r.drain/main.c: fix compiler warning
12:17:21 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36613]: fix compiler warning <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36613>
12:19:42 CIA-9: neteler * r36614 /grass/trunk/raster/r.drain/ ( main.c r.drain.html ): cnielsen: Added 'backlink' functionality
12:19:43 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36614]: cnielsen: Added 'backlink' functionality <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36614>
12:20:02 CIA-9: neteler * r36615 /grass/trunk/raster/r.cost/ ( main.c r.cost.html stash.h ): cnielsen: Added 'backlink' functionality
12:20:16 CIA-9: neteler * r36616 /grass/trunk/raster/r.walk/ ( main.c r.walk.html stash.h ): cnielsen: Added 'backlink' functionality
12:21:56 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36616]: cnielsen: Added 'backlink' functionality <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36616> || Changeset [36615]: cnielsen: Added 'backlink' functionality <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36615>
17:46:25 sigq: grassfeed: Ticket #549 ( defect created ): r.mfilter should _respect_ i.fft outputs for use with i.ifft <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/549>
18:34:27 CIA-9: hcho * r36617 /grass/trunk/vector/v.in.dxf/write_vect.c: Fixed table naming
18:35:23 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36617]: Fixed table naming <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36617>
18:36:07 CIA-9: hcho * r36618 /grass/trunk/lib/gis/strings.c: Made G_str_to_sql \0-safe.
18:36:34 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36618]: Made G_str_to_sql \0-safe. <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36618>
18:38:10 CIA-9: hcho * r36619 /grass/branches/develbranch_6/lib/gis/strings.c: Made G_str_to_sql \0-safe.
18:38:43 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36619]: Made G_str_to_sql \0-safe. <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36619>
18:39:37 CIA-9: hcho * r36620 /grass/branches/develbranch_6/vector/v.in.dxf/write_vect.c: Fixed table naming
18:40:44 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36620]: Fixed table naming <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36620>
19:04:42 CIA-9: hcho * r36621 /grass/trunk/vector/v.in.dxf/write_vect.c: Don't change layer names
19:05:42 CIA-9: hcho * r36622 /grass/branches/develbranch_6/vector/v.in.dxf/write_vect.c: Don't change layer names
19:05:43 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36622]: Don't change layer names <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36622> || Changeset [36621]: Don't change layer names <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36621>
23:18:35 CIA-9: neteler * r36623 /grass-addons/raster/r.terracost/ ( 53 files ): ltoma: new r.terracost; various include file fixes, new description.html, new Makefile; IOSTREAM lib not included as already in GRASS 6
23:43:32 CIA-9: neteler * r36624 /grass/branches/develbranch_6/raster/r.terraflow/description.html: cosmetics
23:43:43 CIA-9: neteler * r36625 /grass/branches/releasebranch_6_4/raster/r.terraflow/description.html: cosmetics
23:43:44 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36625]: cosmetics <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36625> || Changeset [36624]: cosmetics <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36624>
23:44:25 CIA-9: neteler * r36626 /grass/trunk/raster/r.terraflow/r.terraflow.html: cosmetics
23:50:26 sigq: grassfeed: Changeset [36626]: cosmetics <https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/36626>