| 03:11:14 | mandsch: | Testbaudson: allright? |
| 03:12:53 | Testbaudson: | hi mandsch |
| 03:13:02 | mandsch: | hi |
| 03:13:02 | Testbaudson: | sorry I left early yesterday |
| 03:13:09 | mandsch: | no prob |
| 03:13:23 | mandsch: | thought you were a little upset ...? |
| 03:13:55 | Testbaudson: | just a little :-P |
| 03:14:02 | mandsch: | ;- ) did you get the splash files? |
| 03:14:08 | Testbaudson: | yes. |
| 03:14:16 | Testbaudson: | I will take a look at them later today |
| 03:14:35 | Testbaudson: | I already merged the old version into the trunk |
| 03:14:41 | mandsch: | ok, i've tested them here on a rc3, worked ok |
| 03:14:46 | Testbaudson: | nice |
| 03:15:09 | mandsch: | i have talked to seven yesterday |
| 03:15:26 | mandsch: | and we try to meet here later on to discuss treeconfgde |
| 03:15:38 | mandsch: | not sure when |
| 03:15:44 | mandsch: | i'll just hang around |
| 03:16:35 | mandsch: | is this meld tool also available for windoof? |
| 03:17:32 | Testbaudson: | I guess meld is not available for windows |
| 03:17:41 | Testbaudson: | but I'm sure there are similar tools |
| 03:17:54 | mandsch: | hmm, ok, sounded good. I'll look around... |
| 03:18:20 | mandsch: | do you have any information of nimix? is here around? |
| 03:18:32 | mandsch: | is he around ... ? |
| 03:18:33 | Testbaudson: | I guess he is busy studying |
| 03:18:38 | mandsch: | ok. |
| 03:18:42 | Testbaudson: | he has not been in since...April? |
| 03:19:04 | mandsch: | ok, because of this ugly bug in treegde concernign fetaureinfo |
| 03:19:06 | Testbaudson: | I guess he'll be back during the summer break |
| 03:19:36 | Testbaudson: | is there a ticket? |
| 03:19:40 | mandsch: | yep |
| 03:19:52 | mandsch: | i've cc'ed him |
| 03:20:56 | mandsch: | http://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender/ticket/219 |
| 03:20:57 | sigq: | Title: #219 ( enabling FI from TreeGDE does not work ) - Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 03:21:59 | Testbaudson: | uh, this sounds tricky... |
| 03:22:12 | Testbaudson: | the code of treegde2 is somehow cryptic |
| 03:23:15 | mandsch: | true :- ) |
| 03:25:06 | Testbaudson: | I will take a look at it later today... |
| 03:25:11 | Testbaudson: | I'll let you knwo |
| 03:33:30 | mandsch: | ok, |
| 06:21:12 | mandsch: | Testbaudson: hi, i've just tried the core.js you sent me and it works fine. |
| 06:33:57 | Testbaudson: | mandsch: ok |
| 06:35:08 | mandsch: | Testbaudson: I#ll try an d test it on an rc2, later today, ok? |
| 06:35:25 | mandsch: | the first test was on rc3 |
| 06:35:38 | Testbaudson: | ok |
| 06:35:47 | Testbaudson: | I will commit it to 2.5 and to trunk later on |
| 06:38:50 | mandsch: | ok, great, thx |
| 07:47:39 | LenKne: | Testbaudson: Any decision on user/group/service/application model? |
| 07:52:36 | Testbaudson: | Hi LenKne |
| 07:52:50 | Testbaudson: | we had a long discussion today |
| 07:53:28 | Testbaudson: | I'm not sure if all are willing to support the motion |
| 07:53:39 | Testbaudson: | maybe we will have to think it over |
| 07:54:23 | Testbaudson: | I guess maybe we start with something else... |
| 07:54:34 | Testbaudson: | and come back to the use model next month ( ? ) |
| 07:54:41 | Testbaudson: | and come back to the user model next month ( ? ) |
| 07:54:47 | LenKne: | Sure |
| 07:55:16 | Testbaudson: | did Lars contact you? |
| 07:55:36 | LenKne: | I am still inclined to start with the user/group management portion of the admin modules |
| 07:55:44 | LenKne: | No, have not heard from Lars |
| 07:56:01 | Testbaudson: | what do you suggest as a starting point? |
| 07:57:13 | LenKne: | Keeping the same model, but looking at a cleaner interface, similar to the new WFS edit module... |
| 07:57:22 | Testbaudson: | ok |
| 07:57:51 | Testbaudson: | Lars told me he was preparing something... |
| 07:57:51 | LenKne: | something to give people a feel for what the admin modules could look like, and get feedback on the direction |
| 07:58:02 | Testbaudson: | he is our CSS guru... |
| 07:58:51 | Testbaudson: | so I'm fine with it. Let's start with the interfaces. |
| 07:59:00 | LenKne: | Ok... |
| 07:59:29 | LenKne: | any sense on when votes will come in on the element/application split? |
| 07:59:39 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: will my project be affected due to Len's? |
| 08:00:11 | Testbaudson: | LenKne: I don't think it will happen... |
| 08:00:20 | Testbaudson: | at least not now. |
| 08:00:24 | Testbaudson: | I'm not sure |
| 08:00:34 | LenKne: | Too bad :( |
| 08:00:40 | Testbaudson: | Yes. |
| 08:00:45 | LenKne: | It seems like a great idea |
| 08:00:59 | Testbaudson: | It seems like we are not ready for it |
| 08:01:30 | Testbaudson: | maybe it would also be a too big burden for us to carry |
| 08:01:39 | Testbaudson: | so let's start with the current environment |
| 08:01:49 | Testbaudson: | spsneo: No, you are not affected |
| 08:01:55 | LenKne: | I can see that side of it too |
| 08:02:00 | spsneo: | ok |
| 08:02:59 | Testbaudson: | LenKne: Next week we are going to a development sprint... |
| 08:03:10 | Testbaudson: | maybe I have some other results at the end of next week... |
| 08:03:21 | Testbaudson: | but I think we will stick to the old model for now |
| 08:04:01 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: Do we change conf file? |
| 08:04:14 | LenKne: | Code sprint sounds like fun, wish I could be there |
| 08:04:16 | spsneo: | I mean do we generally make changes to mapbender.conf file? |
| 08:05:28 | Testbaudson: | spsneo: only mapbender.conf-dist is delivered with Mapbender |
| 08:05:28 | Testbaudson: | and yes, it changes from time to time |
| 08:06:06 | Testbaudson: | LenKne: I'll keep you updated |
| 08:06:18 | Testbaudson: | I'll have Lars contact you tomorrow |
| 08:06:20 | spsneo: | actually i wanted to .. have a file where users save their database config and that file does not changes with time |
| 08:07:05 | spsneo: | so that we dont have to ask users for those information while updating |
| 08:07:43 | Testbaudson: | spsneo: can you be more specific? |
| 08:07:53 | Testbaudson: | database config? |
| 08:08:37 | spsneo: | currently users are storing database username, host, password information in mapbender.conf file |
| 08:09:15 | spsneo: | I am talking about database host, username, port, password |
| 08:09:31 | Testbaudson: | ok |
| 08:09:39 | Testbaudson: | why move it? |
| 08:10:46 | spsneo: | because if we change the mapbender.conf file and when we release the new version, we will be asking users to replace old files with new ones.. |
| 08:11:09 | spsneo: | so they would replace the old conf file with the new one |
| 08:11:24 | spsneo: | and hence they will have to enter those information again |
| 08:11:44 | spsneo: | anyways this isnt a big issue.. |
| 08:11:52 | spsneo: | it can be discussed later also |
| 08:12:16 | Testbaudson: | spsneo: what is your status concerning the db structure update? |
| 08:12:39 | spsneo: | ya i am working on it.. |
| 08:13:07 | spsneo: | currently i have made classes for checking php version, |
| 08:13:13 | spsneo: | and post gre sql version |
| 08:13:17 | spsneo: | and mytsql version. |
| 08:13:39 | spsneo: | ya and i have also started to code the build script |
| 08:13:57 | spsneo: | as ,, with every release this update script may change ... |
| 08:14:07 | spsneo: | beacuse the php and othe rrequirements may change |
| 08:14:19 | spsneo: | so... the build script will be a kind of template.. |
| 08:14:38 | : | * LenKne is thinking as a Mapbender user, will the update automatically replace the existing version? |
| 08:14:42 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: getting me? |
| 08:15:09 | spsneo: | LenKne: no the user will have to replace the files manually |
| 08:15:39 | LenKne: | Ok |
| 08:16:22 | Testbaudson: | spsneo: what does the build script do exactly? |
| 08:16:43 | spsneo: | hmm..I wil explain u.. |
| 08:17:06 | spsneo: | suppose.. we are going to release mb 2.6 |
| 08:17:21 | spsneo: | and.. the min requirement for mb 2.6 is say php x |
| 08:17:27 | spsneo: | php x.0 say |
| 08:17:46 | spsneo: | so the update script for mb 2.6 will check for php version x.0 |
| 08:17:57 | spsneo: | now say sometime later we are releasing mb 2.7 |
| 08:18:08 | spsneo: | and the min requirement is php x.1 |
| 08:18:26 | spsneo: | so now the update script will check for php x.1 or greater |
| 08:18:37 | spsneo: | so u see.. update script varies with the release |
| 08:18:56 | spsneo: | so we need to create the update script.. at the time of release.. |
| 08:19:03 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: did u get me? |
| 08:19:12 | : | * Testbaudson is still reading |
| 08:19:59 | Testbaudson: | ok, got it |
| 08:20:36 | Testbaudson: | where do we put the information... |
| 08:20:41 | Testbaudson: | which php version is required? |
| 08:20:48 | Testbaudson: | system.php? |
| 08:20:53 | spsneo: | that can be done in 2 ways.. |
| 08:21:07 | spsneo: | may be we can fill those information in some file.. |
| 08:21:20 | spsneo: | and the build script will build the update script |
| 08:21:38 | spsneo: | or we may have a web based form..for building the update script |
| 08:21:55 | spsneo: | which one do u prefer? |
| 08:22:20 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: one more querry.. normally all our mb users use linux ? |
| 08:22:30 | Testbaudson: | why a form? what data would a user enter? |
| 08:22:34 | spsneo: | i mean they install mb on linux machine? |
| 08:22:41 | Testbaudson: | most use linux |
| 08:22:51 | Testbaudson: | some use windows |
| 08:22:54 | spsneo: | user wont fill the form.. |
| 08:23:21 | spsneo: | while building process mb administrator will fill the form to generate the update script |
| 08:23:42 | Testbaudson: | ok, got it |
| 08:23:51 | Testbaudson: | but a file is preferable |
| 08:24:01 | Testbaudson: | administrators know how to edit files ;- ) |
| 08:24:08 | spsneo: | yup, thats more geeky : ) |
| 08:24:10 | Testbaudson: | users don't |
| 08:24:20 | Testbaudson: | and it's less error prone |
| 08:24:23 | spsneo: | but web based interface is more user friendly |
| 08:24:35 | spsneo: | ok.. |
| 08:24:36 | Testbaudson: | you named it... |
| 08:24:40 | Testbaudson: | "user" friendly |
| 08:24:43 | Testbaudson: | not admin friendly |
| 08:24:46 | spsneo: | hehe |
| 08:24:49 | spsneo: | :O |
| 08:24:55 | spsneo: | :D |
| 08:24:56 | spsneo: | ok.. |
| 08:25:03 | spsneo: | anyways it would be easy for me also.. |
| 08:25:07 | spsneo: | if implemented with file.. |
| 08:25:59 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: thats all for today. |
| 08:26:10 | spsneo: | how will i commit te code |
| 08:26:22 | spsneo: | i guess i will need the svn or trac acount |
| 08:26:33 | Testbaudson: | Did you create an account? |
| 08:26:39 | spsneo: | no not yet |
| 08:26:50 | Testbaudson: | Will you be available tomorrow? |
| 08:26:57 | spsneo: | yes |
| 08:27:04 | Testbaudson: | we can create your account then...and LenKne's as well |
| 08:27:11 | spsneo: | ok thanks |
| 08:27:19 | spsneo: | ok may I leave now for 15 mins |
| 08:27:23 | spsneo: | as i have to take dinner |
| 08:27:33 | spsneo: | I will be back in 15 mins. |
| 08:28:25 | : | * Testbaudson will be back tomorrow |
| 08:28:27 | Testbaudson: | bye |
| 08:28:31 | LenKne: | Testbaudson: Thanks for the updates |
| 08:28:32 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: bye |
| 08:28:36 | spsneo: | LenKne: bye |
| 08:28:38 | Testbaudson: | thanks to both of you |
| 08:28:41 | Testbaudson: | bye |
| 08:28:42 | LenKne: | bye all |