| 00:03:58 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: Hello |
| 00:04:11 | spsneo: | Hope you reviewed the script. |
| 00:04:24 | spsneo: | Are u free for a couple of minutes? |
| 00:06:02 | Testbaudson: | hi spsneo |
| 00:06:12 | Testbaudson: | sorry, I didn't have to time to review the script |
| 00:06:18 | Testbaudson: | will do so later today |
| 00:07:30 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: I won't be able to attend the IRC meeting toda |
| 00:07:36 | spsneo: | as I would be in transit. |
| 00:07:43 | spsneo: | I am leaving for college today |
| 00:07:56 | Testbaudson: | ok |
| 00:07:56 | spsneo: | I will be available on IRC from Wednesday. |
| 00:08:03 | spsneo: | Please mail me your review. |
| 00:08:05 | Testbaudson: | what can I do for you now? |
| 00:08:15 | spsneo: | or you may discuss the script with the devs |
| 00:08:39 | spsneo: | This week I will start on the script which will verify the checksums. |
| 00:08:50 | spsneo: | Thats all I wanted to inform you. |
| 00:08:52 | spsneo: | Thanks |
| 00:09:12 | Testbaudson: | ok. I trust your script works fine... |
| 00:09:18 | Testbaudson: | but will definitely check it out later |
| 00:09:37 | Testbaudson: | the most interesting things unfortunately never have the highest priority :-( |
| 00:09:51 | Testbaudson: | thanks for sharing |
| 00:12:02 | spsneo: | ok bye for now |
| 00:12:05 | spsneo: | thanks |
| 07:00:28 | Testbaudson: | 1700 |
| 07:00:34 | Testbaudson: | time for the weekly meeting |
| 07:00:38 | Testbaudson: | roll call |
| 07:00:39 | Testbaudson: | Christoph |
| 07:00:58 | LenKne: | Hi, Len here |
| 07:01:47 | Testbaudson: | Agenda for today's meeting |
| 07:01:48 | Testbaudson: | http://www.mapbender.org/IRC_Meeting#Meeting_Agenda_for_July_28.2C_2008 |
| 07:01:49 | sigq: | Title: IRC Meeting - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:01:57 | Testbaudson: | Let's start with ( 1 ) |
| 07:02:04 | Testbaudson: | ( 1 ) GSoC QnA |
| 07:02:06 | Testbaudson: | LenKne |
| 07:02:12 | Testbaudson: | anything you want to talk about |
| 07:02:17 | Testbaudson: | ? |
| 07:02:35 | LenKne: | I would like some feedback on my coding approaches... |
| 07:02:43 | : | * seven is here |
| 07:02:54 | LenKne: | Not sure if this time is the best, but it looks like it might be a quite meeting |
| 07:03:24 | : | * Testbaudson opens LenKne's branch |
| 07:03:44 | LenKne: | I do not have any specific questions ( sorry ), but just looking for general feedback about coding style |
| 07:04:06 | LenKne: | and anything that may cause problems down the road. |
| 07:04:18 | Testbaudson: | is there a certain script? mod_edituser.php? |
| 07:04:33 | : | * seven has looked at the demo that you sent around. Looks nice. |
| 07:04:54 | LenKne: | Yes and ... |
| 07:04:56 | seven: | Hi nimix |
| 07:05:06 | nimix: | hi |
| 07:05:13 | LenKne: | lib/mb_admin_functions.js |
| 07:05:38 | LenKne: | I think much of the code could move to classes and plan to do that as I work on the group module |
| 07:05:58 | Testbaudson: | can you direct me to the edit user module? |
| 07:06:09 | LenKne: | Getting a better sense of what is specific to the user module and moving other code to classess |
| 07:06:43 | LenKne: | http/php/mod_adminEditFilteredUser |
| 07:06:51 | Testbaudson: | ok |
| 07:08:03 | Testbaudson: | first of all, everything in /lib should be classes |
| 07:09:03 | LenKne: | ok |
| 07:09:58 | : | * Testbaudson is reviewing... |
| 07:10:43 | Testbaudson: | as far as I can see then module http/php/mod_adminEditFilteredUser |
| 07:10:50 | Testbaudson: | contains both client and server side |
| 07:10:54 | Testbaudson: | is that correct? |
| 07:11:21 | Testbaudson: | I find that confusing |
| 07:11:43 | LenKne: | Yes, there is some client side |
| 07:12:02 | Testbaudson: | we should split these |
| 07:12:10 | Testbaudson: | the server side only deals with data |
| 07:12:21 | Testbaudson: | like, interaction with the database |
| 07:12:41 | Testbaudson: | think of the server side scripts like of an API |
| 07:13:17 | Testbaudson: | meaning, you can exchange the client module for instance |
| 07:13:23 | Testbaudson: | client side |
| 07:13:49 | Testbaudson: | next point: |
| 07:14:23 | Testbaudson: | a good rule of thumb is, that if you write an SQL outside of a class... |
| 07:14:28 | Testbaudson: | it's not good practice |
| 07:14:36 | Testbaudson: | the classes are your database wrapper |
| 07:15:21 | Testbaudson: | for example, your SQL "INSERT INTO mb_user ..." |
| 07:15:26 | Testbaudson: | belongs into class_user.php |
| 07:16:08 | LenKne: | that makes sense |
| 07:16:49 | LenKne: | Should not take much time to move SQL to appropriate classes |
| 07:17:13 | Testbaudson: | imagine the db structure changes... |
| 07:17:34 | Testbaudson: | then applying the changes to the specific class should fix the problem... |
| 07:17:41 | Testbaudson: | for all modules |
| 07:18:19 | : | * Testbaudson is looking for a template script... |
| 07:20:02 | : | * Testbaudson didn't find a good template :-( |
| 07:20:30 | Testbaudson: | but I guess you know what I mean |
| 07:20:41 | LenKne: | Yes, this helps |
| 07:20:49 | Testbaudson: | basically you're on the right track |
| 07:20:58 | Testbaudson: | ( which is great ) |
| 07:21:46 | Testbaudson: | maybe ask me again if you have a specific design decision |
| 07:21:58 | Testbaudson: | it's always easier to explain things when you have an example |
| 07:22:50 | LenKne: | ok, thanks for the feedback, still lots of work to do! |
| 07:23:11 | Testbaudson: | yes, but your work looks promising |
| 07:23:17 | Testbaudson: | please keep it up |
| 07:23:35 | Testbaudson: | your contribution really helps the project a lot |
| 07:23:40 | Testbaudson: | thanks |
| 07:24:00 | Testbaudson: | any additions to the agenda? |
| 07:24:19 | seven: | Not from me. |
| 07:24:25 | seven: | We are a small team today. |
| 07:25:00 | : | * Testbaudson motions to close the meeting... |
| 07:25:04 | seven: | Second |
| 07:25:06 | seven: | +1 |
| 07:25:09 | LenKne: | +1 |
| 07:25:16 | Testbaudson: | thanks and bye |
| 07:25:23 | seven: | Bye. |
| 07:25:28 | LenKne: | bye |
| 07:56:44 | mandsch: | seven: Hi, sorry too late. |
| 07:58:09 | seven: | Hi mandsch |
| 07:58:13 | seven: | No problem. |
| 07:58:20 | seven: | This week I was an hour too early. |
| 07:58:21 | seven: | :- ) |
| 07:58:38 | mandsch: | complicated time planning, one child on m ylap the other in the background ... |
| 07:58:42 | seven: | Really - I tough it was 5 but it was only 15:59 |
| 07:59:00 | mandsch: | i think only christoph has always te right time zone ... |
| 07:59:04 | seven: | Did you read the News on OSGeo? |
| 07:59:11 | mandsch: | not yet |
| 07:59:13 | seven: | [OSGeo-Discuss] End of life for Community Mapbuilder |
| 07:59:19 | mandsch: | ups |
| 07:59:24 | seven: | Great mail by Cameron. |
| 07:59:41 | mandsch: | li#ll have to check... that |
| 07:59:46 | seven: | That guy is great for the community. |
| 08:00:08 | seven: | Yes, we should think about what this means for Mapbender. |
| 08:00:13 | seven: | We have discussed this before |
| 08:00:34 | seven: | ...like that Mapbender is no competition to OpenLayers but rather the back end engine. |
| 08:00:46 | mandsch: | hmm, |
| 08:00:57 | seven: | Now with starting to support OpenLayers from the back end we are doing right that |
| 08:01:01 | seven: | and filling a niche nicely. |
| 08:01:11 | seven: | There is nothing like that around. |
| 08:01:11 | mandsch: | that is surelx a roight step |
| 08:01:25 | seven: | The closest ar GeoNetwork and GeoServer |
| 08:01:42 | seven: | but they are Java and put their main focus on other things. |
| 08:01:51 | mandsch: | but i think you can't compare openlayers and mb |
| 08:02:03 | mandsch: | i don't know much about geonetwork |
| 08:02:09 | seven: | I'll prepare an email to dev so that we can discuss some more there. |
| 08:02:21 | seven: | No, it does not make sense to compare MB and OL. |
| 08:02:29 | seven: | They are complimentary. |
| 08:02:50 | seven: | And as OL came later we had to start with something as a viewer - which is why we have a mapframe1, etc. |
| 08:03:05 | seven: | I think with supporting OLON we will close that gap. |
| 08:03:10 | seven: | OK. |
| 08:03:15 | seven: | Have to leave now. |
| 08:03:19 | seven: | See you later. |
| 08:03:20 | mandsch: | that's why i'd like to see ol in mb as mapframe ... |
| 08:03:33 | mandsch: | do you have a second tomorrow? |
| 08:03:59 | mandsch: | i'll have this conftreefde and soap on my stack... |
| 08:04:20 | seven: | Just grab me here. |
| 08:04:29 | mandsch: | ok, cu |
| 08:04:31 | seven: | Sometimes I am not attentive though. |
| 08:04:46 | mandsch: | i'll try to catch it :- ) |
| 08:04:51 | seven: | You can additionally ring on Skxpe arnulf_christl. |
| 08:04:58 | mandsch: | ok. thx |