#MAPBENDER IRC Log - 2008-08-11

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00:44:53 Testbaudson: It's all in a days work for... Bicycle Repair Man!
00:53:56 spsneo: Testbaudson: hello
00:53:58 spsneo: busy?
00:54:16 Testbaudson: hi spsneo
00:54:27 Testbaudson: yes, but what can I do for you?
00:54:29 spsneo: I committed the whole code
00:54:36 spsneo: did u review ?
00:54:43 Testbaudson: not yet
00:54:50 spsneo: integrated both the script
00:55:06 spsneo: ok I will tell the community in detail in IRC meeting
00:55:29 Testbaudson: brilliant
00:55:47 Testbaudson: maybe I can start to test when you have some basic documentation
02:16:20 : * seven will probably not be able to join the IRC meeting today as she will be on the train.
02:17:06 : * seven wonders off to the train now. See you later.
07:00:21 Testbaudson: 1700
07:00:25 Testbaudson: time for the weekly meeting
07:00:32 Testbaudson: roll call
07:00:37 Testbaudson: Christoph
07:01:03 LenKne: Len
07:01:31 Testbaudson: ah, mandsch joined...hello
07:01:59 Testbaudson: agenda at
07:01:59 Testbaudson: http://www.mapbender.org/IRC_Meeting#Meeting_Agenda_for_August_11.2C_2008
07:02:00 sigq: Title: IRC Meeting - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org )
07:02:04 mandsch: hi all, sorry late .. and for some minutes still on the phone ...
07:02:22 Testbaudson: please add other agenda items to the wiki site
07:02:27 Testbaudson: ( 1 ) GSoC Q&A
07:02:29 Testbaudson: LenKne
07:02:33 Testbaudson: any questions?
07:02:53 LenKne: No, last week went well...
07:03:26 LenKne: Got I18N figured out and added to the admin module for user management
07:03:56 Testbaudson: nice
07:04:02 LenKne: Still having an issue with the MO file, but this is an issue with our Apache install, not mapbender
07:04:23 Testbaudson: ok
07:04:32 astroidex: hello astrid is here too
07:04:38 Testbaudson: hi astroidex
07:04:39 LenKne: This week work on form validation on user management and move on to group management
07:05:01 : * LenKne is done
07:05:09 Testbaudson: ok
07:05:14 Testbaudson: let me know if you need help
07:05:44 LenKne: ok
07:05:49 LenKne: Demo is working at
07:05:51 LenKne: http://maps.umn.edu/dev_lenkne/http/frames/login.php?&mb_user_myGui=admin_test&name=test&password=test
07:05:52 sigq: Title: admin_test - presented by Mapbender ( at maps.umn.edu )
07:08:01 Testbaudson: wow, it's getting better and better
07:08:02 Testbaudson: thanks
07:08:16 LenKne: thanks
07:08:31 astroidex: looks quite fine
07:08:58 Testbaudson: if there are no questions for LenKne, we can move on to topic 2
07:09:35 astroidex: okay - move to topic 2
07:09:43 Testbaudson: ( 2 ) open tickets Mapbender 2.5
07:09:48 Testbaudson: we are down to 4 open tickets
07:09:50 Testbaudson: http://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&milestone=2.5+release
07:09:51 sigq: Title: Custom Query - Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org )
07:09:57 Testbaudson: boils down to
07:10:08 Testbaudson: i18n
07:10:15 Testbaudson: and database dump
07:10:37 Testbaudson: we need to get the ISO dump working
07:10:49 : * Testbaudson has never tested Mapbender 2.5 w/ ISO
07:11:50 Testbaudson: we should test Mapbender 2.5 with UTF-8
07:11:59 Testbaudson: both PostgreSQL and MySQL
07:12:05 Testbaudson: and then do the ISO dump
07:12:11 Testbaudson: I think we can do it this week
07:12:36 Testbaudson: I18n-wise we should stick to german and english
07:12:38 astroidex: yes let's do it this week. I can support you
07:12:44 Testbaudson: we don't have time for other languages now
07:12:49 Testbaudson: thanks astroidex
07:12:54 mandsch: some tickets are also in http://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender/report/38
07:12:55 sigq: Title: {38} Known bugs in Mapbender 2.5 rc's - Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org )
07:13:38 astroidex: I would like to modify the guis a bit. add css to print-modul and some aethetic changes like using the new button_silver_bkue buttons in a gui
07:13:56 Testbaudson: astroidex
07:14:00 Testbaudson: let's do it for 2.6
07:14:27 astroidex: just some very small changes ; )
07:14:49 : * Testbaudson opens the window and jumps
07:14:54 astroidex: the print modul won't look good like it is. if we don't add the css-file
07:15:11 mandsch: oh, correct ... i've run in to that one :- )
07:15:15 astroidex: Testbaudson - stay here....
07:15:19 Testbaudson: we should set a limit...
07:15:28 Testbaudson: it should be completed by Thursday
07:15:41 Testbaudson: after this, no changes to the UTF-8 dumps
07:15:43 astroidex: okay - Thursday is fine for me
07:16:25 Testbaudson: mandsch: the tickets in that report have Milestone 3.0
07:17:03 Testbaudson: so I don't bother
07:17:03 Testbaudson: ;- )
07:17:03 mandsch: ok, sorry, i didn't see that ..
07:17:20 astroidex: if we can solve some of the tickets of the report it would be even better. Or am I wrong?
07:17:35 Testbaudson: please feel free to do so
07:18:03 astroidex: okay - till thrusday I will have a look at treeConfGDE and wfsUpdate
07:18:16 mandsch: I am just testing the latest fix for FI from treegde
07:18:27 astroidex: cool
07:18:29 Testbaudson: mandsch: what do you think?
07:18:35 Testbaudson: does it work for you?
07:18:37 mandsch: hmpf ... i am not sure
07:18:51 Testbaudson: hmpf does not sound promising...
07:18:55 mandsch: it seems at first glance it adds all layer names of that wms to query_layers
07:19:06 mandsch: even if they are not queryable ...
07:19:16 Testbaudson: hmpf indeed
07:19:21 mandsch: but you are right, this code is hard to debug ...
07:20:10 : * Testbaudson will reopen the ticket and try to fix it
07:20:35 Testbaudson: mandsch: how about print PDF and i18n and character encoding?
07:20:42 Testbaudson: do you have an idea?
07:20:52 Testbaudson: I have not taken a look at that issue
07:20:58 mandsch: well - not really
07:21:08 mandsch: i think it is nmot an encoding issue
07:21:19 mandsch: it is the font used for pdf
07:21:32 Testbaudson: ok
07:21:42 mandsch: but if we are in encoding is0, then all goes well because of the special character handling ..
07:21:51 mandsch: encoding iso-8859-1
07:22:04 Testbaudson: I guess we can exchange the font then ( ? )
07:22:13 mandsch: i am not so sure
07:22:24 mandsch: becuase we would need a utf-8 font ...
07:22:27 mandsch: i guess
07:22:43 Testbaudson: yes
07:23:09 mandsch: i have been searching whether this pdf lib supports utf-8 font
07:23:15 mandsch: but wasn'T lucky so far...
07:23:26 mandsch: i am not sure if the ycan just do it.
07:23:44 Testbaudson: is this issue a blocker or can we defer it
07:23:45 Testbaudson: ?
07:23:56 mandsch: again hmpf.
07:24:01 mandsch: in the current state
07:24:21 mandsch: if I18n enabled, you won't get corect results in the pdf
07:24:26 mandsch: when using german
07:25:37 Testbaudson: is the pdf broken?
07:25:40 mandsch: no
07:25:47 mandsch: it just has garbage characters
07:25:52 Testbaudson: ok
07:26:34 mandsch: i am no font expert
07:26:44 mandsch: so what would happen if we have a utf-8 font
07:26:54 mandsch: and the mapbender runs in iso?
07:27:17 mandsch: wouldn't this yield the same problems just the other way round?
07:27:17 Testbaudson: the internal encoding of Mapbender is utf8
07:27:26 Testbaudson: so it should not be a problem
07:28:18 Testbaudson: please notice the vagueness of my statement
07:28:19 mandsch: but then i don't get, why the comments are displayed correctly
07:28:29 mandsch: with special characters ...
07:28:43 : * Testbaudson will take a look at the issue....
07:28:52 Testbaudson: I will assign the ticket to me then, ok?
07:29:10 mandsch: leave me as cc
07:29:15 mandsch: ok?
07:29:22 Testbaudson: ok
07:29:23 Testbaudson: done
07:30:46 Testbaudson: so we will have 2.5 rc6 on Friday...
07:30:54 Testbaudson: and will then fix the ISO stuff
07:31:02 Testbaudson: and have 2.5 stable next week.
07:31:49 astroidex: ok
07:32:12 mandsch: haven't filed a ticket
07:32:14 Testbaudson: let's say that it will be out August 22nd
07:32:29 mandsch: but has anyone tried printPDF with owsproxy wms?
07:32:39 Testbaudson: I didn't
07:33:09 mandsch: ok, i have updated a rc2 to rc5
07:33:09 astroidex: it should work
07:33:13 astroidex: I can try it
07:33:20 Testbaudson: thanks
07:33:29 mandsch: and after that owsproxy wms could not be printed ...
07:33:40 mandsch: thanks astroidex
07:33:48 Testbaudson: please create a ticket
07:33:54 Testbaudson: so we don't forget
07:33:56 mandsch: ok
07:35:41 mandsch: Testbaudson: or astroidex have you heard anything about my request to arnulf concerning an update of conftreegde?
07:36:05 astroidex: no, please tell us...
07:36:25 Testbaudson: I don't recall any details about it
07:36:32 mandsch: Well, it's not a big deal
07:36:49 mandsch: i just have some funding for functionality update for conftreegde
07:37:35 mandsch: I'll try to catch arnulf, because we haven't discussed anything yet
07:37:47 mandsch: I ll cc you, ok?
07:37:48 astroidex: he will be in the office tomorrow
07:37:58 astroidex: yes cc us please
07:38:56 Testbaudson: we should do this asap, so it can be added to 2.6
07:39:29 astroidex: there is some funding for wfs 1.1 too. but just onbe institution. would be good to get some more funders and implement this
07:39:47 mandsch: yeah, I'd need that also rather soon...
07:40:32 astroidex: do you have some funding for wfs 1.1. too
07:41:07 mandsch: Yeah, we'll maybe we have something for winter, that would need wfs 1.1, maybe i can find sth ...
07:42:17 mandsch: but not in the current project ...
07:42:42 astroidex: ok
07:43:58 mandsch: is the timeline for 2.6 still pre-Intergeo?
07:44:10 astroidex: that would be good
07:44:21 astroidex: we should try 2.6 befor intergeo
07:44:25 Testbaudson: officially, yes
07:44:27 astroidex: this is end of september
07:44:37 Testbaudson: but this won't happen
07:44:42 astroidex: maybe we will have something to presend from gsoc
07:45:18 mandsch: certainly, the admin screens look really promising ...
07:46:56 Testbaudson: I guess this is it...
07:47:01 : * Testbaudson motions to close the meeting
07:47:17 mandsch: second +1
07:47:28 astroidex: +1
07:47:31 LenKne: +1
07:47:42 Testbaudson: thanks for your participation
07:47:45 Testbaudson: have a nice evening
07:47:48 Testbaudson: bye
07:47:53 mandsch: thank you too, cu, bye
07:47:56 astroidex: bye-bye
07:48:01 LenKne: bye
23:56:18 spsneo: Testbaudson: hello
23:56:22 spsneo: I am very sorry
23:56:33 spsneo: I couldnt attend the meeting yesterday
23:56:44 spsneo: I will mail the community entire documentation.
23:57:02 spsneo: I want to create a wiki page for update routine.
23:57:11 spsneo: What should be the page name/