| 04:29:54 | mandsch: | Testbaudson: are you available for s minute? |
| 04:30:00 | mandsch: | a |
| 04:37:47 | Testbaudson: | hi mandsch |
| 04:37:54 | mandsch: | hi Testbaudson |
| 04:38:15 | mandsch: | i just came across a thing about wfs and owsproxy |
| 04:38:29 | mandsch: | and i am wondering if this is working already? |
| 04:38:49 | mandsch: | aka a wfs requests via getmap in the gazetteer |
| 04:39:01 | mandsch: | nonsense not getmap, getfeature |
| 04:40:52 | : | * Testbaudson takes a look into Trac |
| 04:41:14 | Testbaudson: | hmm....unavailable at the moment |
| 04:41:26 | mandsch: | yep, i have the same |
| 04:41:31 | Testbaudson: | I remember sth about WFS and OWS proxy... |
| 04:41:39 | Testbaudson: | but I didn't do it... |
| 04:41:42 | mandsch: | the owsproxy entry in tabe wfs is inserted |
| 04:41:43 | Testbaudson: | maybe someone else |
| 04:42:12 | : | * Testbaudson will take a look once Trac is back |
| 04:43:06 | mandsch: | ok, thx... |
| 04:44:07 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: I wont be able to implement that version thing in the update script this week. |
| 04:44:21 | spsneo: | Though I will update that documentation and wiki page by tomorrow night |
| 04:44:23 | spsneo: | for sure |
| 04:44:26 | spsneo: | is it ok? |
| 04:44:44 | spsneo: | hope that implementation won't affect my code review |
| 04:45:10 | Testbaudson: | if implement it later, it's ok |
| 04:45:28 | spsneo: | Testbaudson: I will implement it in the coming week. |
| 04:45:32 | Testbaudson: | cool |
| 04:45:46 | spsneo: | Actually few assignments are pending for my Operating System course |
| 04:45:47 | Testbaudson: | focus on documentation now |
| 04:45:53 | Testbaudson: | ok |
| 04:45:59 | : | * spsneo is working on pintos |
| 04:46:57 | Testbaudson: | weird! |
| 04:47:24 | spsneo: | weird? |
| 04:47:29 | spsneo: | why? |
| 04:47:52 | Testbaudson: | we didn't have these fancy tools when I was a student ;- ) |
| 04:48:15 | spsneo: | :D |
| 04:48:36 | spsneo: | working on implementing a file system for pintos |
| 04:48:39 | spsneo: | : ) |
| 04:49:15 | Testbaudson: | cool |
| 04:53:27 | Testbaudson: | mandsch: I can't find a ticket for WFS and OWS Proxy |
| 04:53:48 | Testbaudson: | Maybe we need to send an email to the dev list |
| 04:53:55 | Testbaudson: | and ask about the status |
| 04:54:06 | mandsch: | ok, i will investigate a little bit and then write to dev, ok? |
| 04:54:11 | Testbaudson: | thanks |
| 07:35:19 | mandsch: | Testbaudson: fyi - i've just been through the wfs wfs_conf code |
| 07:35:28 | Testbaudson: | ok |
| 07:35:37 | mandsch: | and i think, that when gathering the wfs conf obj |
| 07:35:56 | mandsch: | it doesn't chech wfs table for the column owsproxy |
| 07:36:08 | mandsch: | it just returns wfs_getfeature url |
| 07:36:20 | mandsch: | i'll post sth to dev later ... |
| 07:36:35 | Testbaudson: | thanks |
| 07:36:47 | Testbaudson: | sorry, I have not touched this module yet |
| 07:36:57 | mandsch: | but now, cu in two weeks, when i'm back from holidays ... |
| 07:37:28 | mandsch: | and now at least out of the office |
| 07:37:32 | mandsch: | ;- ) bye |
| 08:08:31 | seven: | -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- |
| 08:21:09 | ur: | -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- |
| 08:39:02 | spsneo: | seven: u thr? |
| 08:39:16 | seven: | Yes. |
| 08:39:56 | spsneo: | so yesterday we were talking about work for pay |
| 08:39:58 | spsneo: | ? |
| 08:40:17 | seven: | Yes. |
| 08:40:47 | seven: | I was just suggesting that it might be possible to work for an Open Source project and earn money all the same. |
| 08:40:58 | spsneo: | seven: how? |
| 08:41:03 | seven: | It is more of a standard reflex when I hear the word "voluntary". |
| 08:41:14 | seven: | Well - the way that we do it for example. |
| 08:41:14 | spsneo: | hmm |
| 08:41:24 | seven: | We are a company with 20 people and we do Open Source. |
| 08:41:26 | seven: | Thats it. |
| 08:41:28 | seven: | :- ) |
| 08:41:39 | spsneo: | so how should I start? |
| 08:41:57 | seven: | Well, I never said that it is easy. |
| 08:41:58 | seven: | :- ) |
| 08:42:16 | spsneo: | ok , but still.. any idea on starting it? |
| 08:42:19 | seven: | First thing you should check whether there is a software company around your place that does Open Source. |
| 08:42:31 | seven: | Go there and ask them. |
| 08:42:52 | seven: | Second thing: Go to a GIS company that sells proprietary software. |
| 08:42:59 | seven: | It does not matter which brand. |
| 08:43:04 | spsneo: | hmm.. |
| 08:43:18 | seven: | Tell them that you know Open Source and that is is better, faster and even cheaper. |
| 08:43:24 | seven: | ...something along that way- |
| 08:43:43 | seven: | If they don't believe you show them http://www.osgeo.org |
| 08:43:43 | spsneo: | seven: ok |
| 08:43:53 | seven: | and all the links to all the applications. |
| 08:44:06 | spsneo: | seven: can I participate... from distant? |
| 08:44:11 | seven: | Third possibilitiy: Become a freelance consultant yourself. |
| 08:44:29 | seven: | Yes. Obviously you can participate from anywhere. |
| 08:44:37 | seven: | its all via web. |
| 08:45:04 | seven: | We here in Germany have more problems to work in other places of the world because we are too expensive. |
| 08:45:12 | seven: | Whcih sound strange |
| 08:45:15 | seven: | but thats it |
| 08:46:19 | seven: | One of the few assets that we have here is that we speak German - and many of our customers want to talk in German. |
| 08:46:30 | spsneo: | ok.. can u suggest some organizations.. where I can work from distant ... |
| 08:47:05 | seven: | I think there is a job corner in OSGeo - but I never really looked into it. |
| 08:47:20 | seven: | It is probably more for people who actually look for a new job. |
| 08:47:46 | spsneo: | seven: hmm ok |
| 08:47:49 | spsneo: | fine |
| 08:48:01 | seven: | There is also a Service Provider Directory, check whether there is something in |
| 08:48:04 | seven: | - where are you? |
| 08:48:08 | spsneo: | I wanted to work in php, C, C++ , python, perl etc |
| 08:48:12 | seven: | Coordinates? |
| 08:48:24 | seven: | That is many languages... :- ) |
| 08:49:08 | spsneo: | I mean I can work in any of these language |
| 08:49:27 | spsneo: | so if u can suggest some open source organization.. |
| 08:50:06 | seven: | spsneo: Unfortunately I cannot suggest anyone in particular. |
| 08:50:17 | spsneo: | seven: okk |
| 08:50:20 | seven: | I have no idea how to organize this. |
| 08:50:30 | seven: | I can understand that there is interest. |
| 08:50:32 | spsneo: | ok |
| 08:51:04 | : | * seven just checked India: http://www.osgeo.org/search_profile?SET=1&MUL_COUNTRY%5B%5D=00003 |
| 08:51:06 | sigq: | Title: Service Providers - Search | OSGeo.org ( at www.osgeo.org ) |
| 08:51:13 | seven: | Not so much there yet. |
| 08:51:28 | spsneo: | okk. |
| 08:51:40 | spsneo: | anyways can I work for mapbender ? |
| 08:51:46 | seven: | Sure. |
| 08:51:57 | seven: | But we are not very good at organizing funding. |
| 08:52:07 | spsneo: | I mean for pay? |
| 08:52:07 | spsneo: | ohhhkkk |
| 08:52:07 | seven: | But we are trying to improve this. |
| 08:52:17 | spsneo: | kool |
| 08:52:20 | seven: | Which is one reason why I said that you shoudl try to work for money. |
| 08:52:21 | seven: | :- ) |
| 08:52:32 | seven: | I am sure that is is possible to do this. |
| 08:52:45 | seven: | But we have failed badly for the past years. |
| 08:52:53 | spsneo: | hmm.. hopefully! |
| 08:52:55 | spsneo: | : ) |
| 08:53:00 | seven: | One reason is that customers want to first see things and then pay. |
| 08:53:13 | seven: | But software first has to be developed before you can see it. |
| 08:53:15 | seven: | :-( |
| 08:53:30 | spsneo: | yup |
| 08:53:32 | seven: | Once it is developed it is free to use - because it is Open Source. |
| 08:53:50 | spsneo: | so its like a vicious cycle |
| 08:53:50 | seven: | Which is why many people think that Open Source is anti-commercial. |
| 08:53:53 | seven: | But it is not. |
| 08:53:53 | spsneo: | right? |
| 08:54:09 | seven: | It is just very different to the traditional job of selling boxes. |
| 08:54:59 | spsneo: | right |
| 08:55:27 | seven: | Look at this page: http://www.mapbender.org/index.php?title=Development&oldid=5474 |
| 08:55:28 | sigq: | Title: Development - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 08:55:40 | seven: | It is already two years old... |
| 08:55:41 | spsneo: | one sec |
| 08:56:00 | seven: | It was one of our earlier tries to communicate what we are currently working on. |
| 08:56:15 | seven: | "we" in this context is the Mapbender develoepr team. |
| 08:56:34 | seven: | From all that I can tell you are currently becoming part of the Mapbender developer team. |
| 08:56:41 | seven: | So this includes you. |
| 08:56:51 | spsneo: | okk. |
| 08:56:54 | spsneo: | fine |
| 08:57:08 | seven: | But I doubt that a customer who wants some functionality will talk to you here in IRC and give you money to develop things. |
| 08:57:13 | seven: | This is the tricky bit of the job. |
| 08:57:26 | spsneo: | then? |
| 08:57:35 | seven: | We nned to find out. |
| 08:57:37 | seven: | Any ideas? |
| 08:57:58 | : | * spsneo will have to think on this |
| 08:58:12 | seven: | There is a Project Sponsorship Program at OSGeo. |
| 08:58:18 | spsneo: | may be we can communicate on emails |
| 08:58:25 | seven: | Yes, feel free. |
| 08:58:35 | seven: | I am happy for good ideas |
| 08:58:51 | seven: | and I can help to communicate them and discuss with people who might be interested. |
| 08:59:13 | spsneo: | sure! |
| 09:03:27 | seven: | mandsch: You there? |
| 09:03:36 | mandsch: | hi seven |
| 09:03:53 | mandsch: | yep, im there |
| 09:04:06 | seven: | Hallo. |
| 09:04:09 | seven: | So, endlich. |
| 09:04:11 | mandsch: | hi |
| 09:04:14 | seven: | Schoin in Urlaub? |
| 09:04:18 | mandsch: | quasi |
| 09:04:23 | seven: | ping ur: |
| 09:04:26 | mandsch: | aber von zuhaus enoch ein bisschen online... |
| 09:04:31 | seven: | :- ) |
| 09:04:50 | seven: | Wir haben ein paar Optionen diskutiert. |
| 09:04:55 | mandsch: | ok |
| 09:05:06 | seven: | Hast Du Skype? |
| 09:05:13 | mandsch: | ja |
| 09:05:24 | seven: | ich bin unter arnulf_christl erreichbar. |
| 09:05:31 | mandsch: | ok sekunde |