| 06:56:50 | Testbaudson: | IRC meeting |
| 06:57:00 | Testbaudson: | let's start with roll call |
| 06:57:03 | Testbaudson: | Christoph |
| 06:57:16 | ur: | Ui |
| 06:57:21 | ur: | mh: Uli |
| 06:57:22 | seven: | Arnulf |
| 06:57:29 | seven: | Uiuiui |
| 06:58:16 | Testbaudson: | darndt? tbaschetti? |
| 06:58:54 | Testbaudson: | astroidex? |
| 06:58:54 | tbaschetti: | thomas |
| 06:59:13 | astroidex: | hello - here I am |
| 06:59:17 | Testbaudson: | agenda is here: |
| 06:59:19 | Testbaudson: | http://www.mapbender.org/IRC_Meeting |
| 06:59:23 | sigq: | Title: IRC Meeting - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 06:59:36 | Testbaudson: | please add your topics if you have any |
| 06:59:49 | Testbaudson: | ( 1 ) Google Summer of Code |
| 06:59:58 | Testbaudson: | the application phase is over |
| 07:00:05 | Testbaudson: | Mapbender has received 7 applications |
| 07:00:11 | astroidex: | wow |
| 07:00:13 | Testbaudson: | http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2009_Ranking |
| 07:00:14 | sigq: | Title: Google Summer of Code 2009 Ranking - OSGeo Wiki ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:00:37 | Testbaudson: | I think two are very promising |
| 07:01:06 | Testbaudson: | ( though I have not read all in detail ) |
| 07:01:34 | Testbaudson: | the first promising applicant is Karim Malhas |
| 07:01:44 | Testbaudson: | he is Verena's room mate |
| 07:01:57 | Testbaudson: | I've talked to him in person |
| 07:02:11 | Testbaudson: | he seems to be perfectly capable of doing a good job |
| 07:02:36 | seven: | Cool. |
| 07:02:43 | Testbaudson: | he's a math student who does a lot of software developing in his spare time ( and to earn money ) |
| 07:03:06 | Testbaudson: | he's very interested in open source |
| 07:03:42 | Testbaudson: | I think he could help us in restructuring the PHP classes and build AJAX forms on top of it |
| 07:04:12 | Testbaudson: | I volunteer to mentor him |
| 07:04:25 | seven: | +1 |
| 07:04:46 | astroidex: | +1 |
| 07:04:51 | mandsch: | +1 |
| 07:04:52 | Testbaudson: | the other applicant who is very promising is Mifan Careem |
| 07:05:07 | Testbaudson: | he applied for the project "CSW client" |
| 07:05:20 | Testbaudson: | he is a long time member of the Sahana developer team |
| 07:05:31 | Testbaudson: | he has a lot of open source experience |
| 07:05:53 | seven: | That is interesting as we already had some contacts to the Sahana project ( via Indonesia ) |
| 07:05:55 | Testbaudson: | Sahana is in PHP, so he should have no problem |
| 07:06:00 | seven: | Cool. |
| 07:06:28 | Testbaudson: | He has also experience in OpenLayers and MapServer |
| 07:06:58 | Testbaudson: | Here's a link to his application |
| 07:06:58 | Testbaudson: | http://socghop.appspot.com/student_proposal/review/google/gsoc2009/mifan/t123875686318 |
| 07:07:00 | sigq: | Title: Sign In Required ( at socghop.appspot.com ) |
| 07:07:08 | Testbaudson: | I guess you have to be registered as a mentor to read it |
| 07:07:16 | Testbaudson: | Did anyone of you sign up as a mentor? |
| 07:07:37 | : | * seven did not as she is probably not a good mentor... |
| 07:07:44 | mandsch: | no |
| 07:07:48 | : | * tbaschetti not |
| 07:07:53 | seven: | Testbaudson: Do you have a suggestion who could be a good mentor? |
| 07:08:09 | Testbaudson: | the interesting thing is this |
| 07:08:19 | Testbaudson: | the topic was added by Andreas Fischer |
| 07:08:35 | Testbaudson: | maybe he could be a co-mentor |
| 07:08:53 | Testbaudson: | I'm not sure if he's willing to do so |
| 07:09:01 | Testbaudson: | I would ask him |
| 07:09:11 | Testbaudson: | Is anyone here interested in mentoring? |
| 07:09:16 | Testbaudson: | Someone with an interest in CSW? |
| 07:09:31 | : | * Testbaudson doesn't want to mentor two students |
| 07:09:51 | Testbaudson: | ( maybe 1.5 ) |
| 07:10:22 | Testbaudson: | Do we have any interested parties in CSW? |
| 07:10:29 | Testbaudson: | Armin Retterath? |
| 07:10:46 | mandsch: | I have no real experience with csw ... |
| 07:11:53 | seven: | Anybody mentoring? |
| 07:12:30 | seven: | Testbaudson: Do we have to decide now? |
| 07:12:44 | : | * seven suggests to write an email to dev |
| 07:12:50 | Testbaudson: | we need to rate the applicants |
| 07:12:57 | Testbaudson: | only registered mentors are allowed to rate |
| 07:13:15 | Testbaudson: | I think we should aim at two slots |
| 07:13:29 | Testbaudson: | this year there are 12 projects under the OSGeo umbrella |
| 07:13:38 | Testbaudson: | last year we had 22? slots |
| 07:13:47 | Testbaudson: | this year there will be less I fear |
| 07:13:59 | Testbaudson: | so it would be nice to have some moentors and some votes |
| 07:14:33 | seven: | How many mentors do we need? |
| 07:14:57 | Testbaudson: | last year, each project got at least 1 slot |
| 07:15:15 | Testbaudson: | the remaining slots were allocated randomly |
| 07:15:26 | Testbaudson: | we should have some arguments why we should have two slots |
| 07:15:29 | Testbaudson: | and not only one |
| 07:15:42 | Testbaudson: | one argument is, that we have most applicants |
| 07:15:59 | astroidex: | good |
| 07:16:22 | Testbaudson: | so there is no fixed number of mentors we need |
| 07:16:34 | Testbaudson: | but I feel stupid to be the only one |
| 07:16:49 | Testbaudson: | it would be nice to have some backing |
| 07:16:54 | : | * ur could register as mentor |
| 07:17:21 | : | * seven seconds that |
| 07:17:24 | astroidex: | astroidex registerd last year, but I forgot my login.... |
| 07:17:45 | ur: | create a new one... |
| 07:18:16 | astroidex: | found it |
| 07:18:54 | Testbaudson: | if you need instructions how to register and how to vote, let me know |
| 07:19:07 | Testbaudson: | maybe we can do it tomorrow during a mini-break |
| 07:19:38 | Testbaudson: | I will ask Andreas Fischer too |
| 07:19:55 | mandsch: | I could also register as a mentor ... |
| 07:20:05 | Testbaudson: | it's a good opportunity for Mapbender to get some CSW functionality |
| 07:20:15 | Testbaudson: | mandsch, astroidex, ur: thanks |
| 07:20:43 | Testbaudson: | I can't give useful GIS mentoring |
| 07:20:46 | Testbaudson: | only codewise |
| 07:21:20 | Testbaudson: | I don't know how CSW fits in our roadmap |
| 07:22:03 | : | * seven has some ideas wrt that |
| 07:22:28 | seven: | It will be part of the INSPIRE challenge |
| 07:22:33 | astroidex: | maybe david arndt is interested in csw |
| 07:22:48 | seven: | darndt: Are you there? |
| 07:23:12 | seven: | darndt: Are you mentoring for GeoNetwork? |
| 07:24:38 | seven: | ur sees that GN is not on the list... |
| 07:25:45 | Testbaudson: | please add your ideas here: |
| 07:25:46 | Testbaudson: | http://www.mapbender.org/GSoC_2009 |
| 07:25:47 | sigq: | Title: GSoC 2009 - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:26:34 | Testbaudson: | If I understood correctly, you three would register and vote, |
| 07:26:48 | astroidex: | yes |
| 07:26:55 | Testbaudson: | but would not be interested being the primary mentor? |
| 07:27:01 | mandsch: | yep |
| 07:28:28 | : | * Testbaudson plan not to mentor this project seems to fail... |
| 07:28:43 | seven: | ? |
| 07:28:48 | : | * Testbaudson 's plan not to mentor this project seems to fail... |
| 07:28:53 | ur: | :- ) |
| 07:28:56 | seven: | Yes. |
| 07:29:04 | Testbaudson: | *%$&%ยง! |
| 07:29:11 | seven: | No I understood it. |
| 07:29:14 | seven: | :- ) |
| 07:29:36 | ur: | you are simply the best, to do this job |
| 07:30:12 | : | * Testbaudson motions to rename Mapbender to Mapbaudson :-( |
| 07:30:56 | ur: | you have to rename the robot in futurama :- ) |
| 07:32:09 | Testbaudson: | so please add your ideas here: |
| 07:32:13 | Testbaudson: | http://www.mapbender.org/GSoC_2009 |
| 07:32:15 | sigq: | Title: GSoC 2009 - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:32:16 | Testbaudson: | thanks |
| 07:32:21 | Testbaudson: | any other topics |
| 07:32:22 | Testbaudson: | ? |
| 07:33:13 | astroidex: | oloh ? |
| 07:33:31 | astroidex: | sorry ohloh.net |
| 07:33:48 | astroidex: | Arnulf - did you get the mail about the statistics? |
| 07:34:00 | seven: | No. |
| 07:34:14 | astroidex: | this is not so important but it would be nice to see here that the project is still alive |
| 07:34:16 | seven: | But I still have a pile of unread mails in my inbox. |
| 07:34:29 | seven: | What happened? |
| 07:34:40 | astroidex: | http://www.ohloh.net/p/3712 |
| 07:34:41 | sigq: | Title: Mapbender ( at www.ohloh.net ) |
| 07:34:57 | astroidex: | the statistics are out of date |
| 07:35:18 | astroidex: | http://www.ohloh.net/p/3712/analyses/latest |
| 07:35:19 | sigq: | Title: Mapbender - Ohloh ( at www.ohloh.net ) |
| 07:35:20 | Testbaudson: | it says "Decreasing year-over-year development activity" |
| 07:35:25 | astroidex: | code analysis stops in 2008 |
| 07:35:27 | Testbaudson: | because there are no updates |
| 07:35:42 | seven: | Hmmm? |
| 07:35:49 | ur: | who tagged mapbender as "game"???? |
| 07:35:58 | seven: | Where does OLOH look? |
| 07:35:58 | astroidex: | ? |
| 07:36:05 | seven: | ohloh |
| 07:36:18 | Testbaudson: | seven: did you register Mapbender at Ohloh? |
| 07:36:44 | seven: | Yes. |
| 07:36:55 | seven: | Anybody can apply as manager. |
| 07:37:04 | : | * seven sees that the latest changes from the Wiki are there. |
| 07:37:04 | Testbaudson: | ( this is new ) |
| 07:37:09 | astroidex: | I took game away |
| 07:38:17 | astroidex: | maybe some of you could add a picture : ) |
| 07:39:35 | seven: | Yet another place to maintain. |
| 07:39:37 | astroidex: | maybe the code statistic is not so important. but I think it makes a good impression when it is actual |
| 07:39:56 | seven: | Yes, but why did it stop working? |
| 07:40:05 | astroidex: | no idea |
| 07:40:33 | astroidex: | do you remember how you published it? maybe it is referred to a branch not to the trunk? |
| 07:41:39 | astroidex: | but arnulf - you don't have extra superadmin rights on ohloh |
| 07:41:47 | seven: | No. |
| 07:41:52 | astroidex: | because I can't see the link which refers to svn |
| 07:41:53 | seven: | Just a user as any other |
| 07:42:08 | : | * seven cannot find it either. |
| 07:42:14 | seven: | But the code statistics still work. |
| 07:42:27 | seven: | https://www.ohloh.net/p/3712/analyses/latest |
| 07:42:28 | sigq: | Title: Mapbender - Ohloh ( at www.ohloh.net ) |
| 07:43:06 | Testbaudson: | Updated 05 Dec 2008 13:33 UTC |
| 07:43:40 | seven: | What does that mean? |
| 07:43:51 | : | * seven cannot find that information. Where is it? |
| 07:44:03 | Testbaudson: | above the pie chart |
| 07:44:07 | astroidex: | https://www.ohloh.net/p/3712/contributors/15942918607129 |
| 07:44:08 | sigq: | Title: Mapbender Contributors - Christoph Baudson - Ohloh ( at www.ohloh.net ) |
| 07:45:33 | Testbaudson: | ah |
| 07:45:39 | Testbaudson: | Development -> Enlistments |
| 07:46:14 | Testbaudson: | seems like we would have to contact Ohloh |
| 07:46:42 | astroidex: | yes |
| 07:47:07 | astroidex: | I could send a mail |
| 07:47:11 | Testbaudson: | thanks |
| 07:47:22 | : | * seven found it now: Step 1 of 3: Downloading source code history ( Failed 4 months ago. ) |
| 07:47:41 | seven: | Thats about the time when the analysis stopped. |
| 07:47:58 | seven: | astroidex: Can you please write that mail? |
| 07:48:04 | seven: | Cc to dev |
| 07:48:56 | Testbaudson: | any other topics? |
| 07:48:57 | astroidex: | I am just dooing it |
| 07:49:18 | astroidex: | 2.6 |
| 07:49:43 | astroidex: | when are we going to publish the next rc or version? any plans? |
| 07:50:02 | Testbaudson: | I don't have any |
| 07:50:23 | Testbaudson: | still 20 open tickets |
| 07:50:40 | Testbaudson: | http://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&milestone=2.6+release |
| 07:50:41 | sigq: | Title: Custom Query - Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:51:00 | astroidex: | ok - so we try to fix them step by step |
| 07:51:11 | Testbaudson: | as time permits |
| 07:51:46 | astroidex: | yes - thats right |
| 07:52:06 | astroidex: | but we should keep an eye on this. |
| 07:52:18 | Testbaudson: | astroidex: do you have a date in mind? |
| 07:52:55 | astroidex: | Maybe rc2 in the middle of may? I will test 2.6 in my next projects |
| 07:53:12 | astroidex: | and if there are any bugs left.... |
| 07:53:24 | seven: | We could try to have a stable version out before Bolsena. |
| 07:53:31 | astroidex: | good idea |
| 07:53:43 | seven: | So that we don't spend our time on releasing "old" stuff |
| 07:53:59 | seven: | but really have the chance to do something new |
| 07:54:27 | seven: | But as Testbaudson said, it always depends on the available time. |
| 07:54:42 | Testbaudson: | as the update procedure is still not as easy as it could be... |
| 07:54:48 | Testbaudson: | there will be a 2.5.2 |
| 07:55:02 | Testbaudson: | with just bug fixes in the 2.5 branch |
| 07:55:09 | Testbaudson: | for those who don't dare to update |
| 07:55:22 | Testbaudson: | to the next major version |
| 07:56:33 | Testbaudson: | any other topics? |
| 07:56:51 | : | * seven can hear the clock strike six. |
| 07:57:01 | : | * Testbaudson motions to close |
| 07:57:06 | seven: | seconds |
| 07:57:10 | seven: | +1 |
| 07:57:42 | ur: | +1 |
| 07:57:43 | tbaschetti: | +1 |
| 07:57:48 | seven: | Thanks. |
| 07:57:49 | seven: | :- ) |
| 07:57:59 | mandsch: | thx, cu |
| 07:58:03 | astroidex: | +1 |
| 07:58:12 | seven: | Bye |
| 12:31:09 | Zakaria: | Hi |