| 06:57:46 | Testbaudson: | 1700 |
| 06:57:49 | Testbaudson: | meeting time |
| 06:58:00 | : | * seven is here |
| 06:58:06 | : | * ur too |
| 06:58:14 | : | * tbaschetti is here |
| 06:58:21 | Testbaudson: | christoph is here |
| 06:58:21 | astroidex: | hi |
| 06:58:31 | mandsch: | Michael is here |
| 06:59:33 | Testbaudson: | Agenda is here |
| 06:59:34 | Testbaudson: | http://www.mapbender.org/IRC_Meeting#Meeting_Agenda |
| 06:59:35 | sigq: | Title: IRC Meeting - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:00:00 | : | * seven is still adding stuff... |
| 07:00:22 | Testbaudson: | ( 1 ) Google Summer of Code |
| 07:00:35 | Testbaudson: | we have been allocated two students by Google and OSGeo |
| 07:00:46 | Testbaudson: | both have submitted promising proposals |
| 07:00:50 | seven: | woot |
| 07:01:22 | Testbaudson: | I guess the official announcement is today |
| 07:01:31 | Testbaudson: | so I will contact the students tomorrow |
| 07:01:50 | seven: | Who is mentoring? Both Testbaudson? |
| 07:02:21 | astroidex: | I want to assist with CSW |
| 07:02:22 | Testbaudson: | Officially, I mentor both |
| 07:02:33 | Testbaudson: | inofficially, others help in |
| 07:02:37 | Testbaudson: | thanks astroidex |
| 07:02:52 | Testbaudson: | we have already contacted other interested parties |
| 07:03:33 | Testbaudson: | Andreas Fischer ( who has added the CSW idea ) wants to help too |
| 07:03:47 | Testbaudson: | astroidex has also contacted Armin Retterath |
| 07:04:07 | Testbaudson: | so I guess we will have enough CSW expertise and input |
| 07:04:33 | Testbaudson: | any questions? |
| 07:04:43 | Testbaudson: | any input? |
| 07:05:06 | : | * seven would be interested in keeping up to date with the project. |
| 07:05:14 | seven: | How to do that? |
| 07:05:19 | tbaschetti: | thanks for mentoring |
| 07:05:21 | Testbaudson: | what project? |
| 07:05:22 | seven: | Where to start? |
| 07:05:44 | seven: | CSW |
| 07:05:54 | Testbaudson: | there will be a weekly status report from our students |
| 07:06:01 | seven: | to the dev list? |
| 07:06:03 | Testbaudson: | mapbender_dev |
| 07:06:07 | seven: | Exellent |
| 07:06:10 | seven: | c |
| 07:06:22 | seven: | ^ |
| 07:07:10 | Testbaudson: | move on to the next topic? |
| 07:07:36 | seven: | Yes. |
| 07:07:38 | seven: | Copyright assignment to OSGeo. See http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2009-April/001106.html |
| 07:07:39 | sigq: | Title: [Incubator] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] process for copyright assignment ( at lists.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:07:49 | seven: | Can you please read that mail... |
| 07:08:35 | seven: | OK. |
| 07:08:45 | : | * tbaschetti has read... |
| 07:08:52 | seven: | I suggest t make it official we have a motion and vote now. |
| 07:08:59 | seven: | Do we have quorum? |
| 07:09:27 | seven: | 5 should be OK. |
| 07:09:36 | seven: | Any questions? |
| 07:09:49 | seven: | We discussed this before. |
| 07:09:54 | : | * Testbaudson has not read the document |
| 07:09:57 | Testbaudson: | is it ok? |
| 07:10:38 | seven: | Thats fine. |
| 07:10:43 | Testbaudson: | or will my soul be sold to OSGeo? |
| 07:10:49 | seven: | Hehe, sure... |
| 07:10:57 | Testbaudson: | I don't need it anyway |
| 07:11:07 | Testbaudson: | +1 on the motion |
| 07:11:09 | seven: | Arnulf moves to transfer the Copyright of Mapbender to OSGeo. |
| 07:11:17 | seven: | ( someone please second ) |
| 07:11:23 | ur: | second |
| 07:11:24 | tbaschetti: | second |
| 07:11:27 | Testbaudson: | +1 |
| 07:11:28 | tbaschetti: | +1 |
| 07:11:32 | ur: | +1 |
| 07:11:33 | seven: | +1 |
| 07:11:49 | seven: | Can somebody please wake up astroidex? |
| 07:11:57 | seven: | for the quorum... |
| 07:12:28 | astroidex: | huch - I am awake |
| 07:12:30 | mandsch: | +1 |
| 07:12:34 | astroidex: | : ) |
| 07:12:34 | mandsch: | me too ;- ) |
| 07:12:43 | seven: | Excellente! |
| 07:12:44 | astroidex: | +1 |
| 07:12:48 | seven: | Muchas Gracias. |
| 07:13:09 | seven: | I will prepare the required documents and send them to all devs. |
| 07:13:29 | seven: | Please sign and send back via mail, directly to Tyler Mitchell. |
| 07:13:34 | seven: | That was it. |
| 07:13:36 | seven: | :- ) |
| 07:13:41 | Testbaudson: | thank you |
| 07:13:41 | seven: | Next topic. |
| 07:14:00 | seven: | Adding BSD license to the Mapbender project. See: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2009-April/001110.html |
| 07:14:01 | sigq: | Title: [Incubator] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] process for copyright assignment ( at lists.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:14:11 | seven: | can you pleas read that mail... |
| 07:14:44 | seven: | The PSC votes on a motion declaring the change of license terms. The PSC chair ( who is an OSGeo officer ) declares the motion passed and in effect. As an officer they can speak on behalf of the foundation in such matters. The documentation, headers, etc are updated accordingly. |
| 07:14:55 | seven: | Formatting... |
| 07:15:03 | seven: | Step one: The PSC votes on a motion declaring the change of license terms. |
| 07:15:13 | seven: | 2: The PSC chair ( who is an OSGeo officer ) declares the motion passed and in effect. As an officer they can speak on behalf of the foundation in such matters. |
| 07:15:22 | seven: | 3: The documentation, headers, etc are updated accordingly. |
| 07:15:38 | seven: | Anyone care to make a motion? |
| 07:15:44 | : | * seven does not wannt to make all motions... |
| 07:15:57 | Testbaudson: | why? |
| 07:16:00 | seven: | OK. |
| 07:16:15 | seven: | Arnulf motions to publish Mapbender under a dual licenses |
| 07:16:27 | seven: | One stays GNU GPL as before. |
| 07:16:44 | seven: | Additionally Mapbender can be used under the terms of the BSD license. |
| 07:16:59 | seven: | ...as discussed in 2007 and last year. |
| 07:17:14 | seven: | It will allow people to use Mapbender in proprietary packages. |
| 07:17:24 | seven: | or if they wish under the terms of the GNU GPL. |
| 07:17:48 | seven: | The trunk of the project will obviously continue under the GNU GPL. |
| 07:18:17 | seven: | This will ensure that the OSGeo project Mapbender svn hosts the most current and complete and fully Free Software version of Mapbender. . |
| 07:18:30 | seven: | That was it. |
| 07:19:00 | Testbaudson: | what do we need to change in the source code? |
| 07:19:13 | seven: | Add the link to the BSD license. |
| 07:19:17 | seven: | I volunteer to do that. |
| 07:19:29 | seven: | We wanted to clean up some of the headers anyway. |
| 07:19:38 | Testbaudson: | thanks |
| 07:19:43 | seven: | It will take some time because I want to make sure that everything is really clean. |
| 07:19:57 | seven: | Means that I have to open virtually all files... :- ) |
| 07:20:26 | seven: | OK. We are still in the motion. |
| 07:20:35 | Testbaudson: | seconded |
| 07:20:36 | seven: | discussion? |
| 07:20:41 | seven: | Ah, thanks. |
| 07:20:42 | seven: | +1 |
| 07:20:44 | Testbaudson: | +1 |
| 07:20:46 | mandsch: | +1 |
| 07:20:50 | ur: | +1 |
| 07:20:59 | : | * seven nudges astroidex via Skype... |
| 07:21:31 | tbaschetti: | +1 |
| 07:21:40 | astroidex: | don't know yet |
| 07:22:54 | Testbaudson: | astroidex: you can vote -1 or 0 |
| 07:23:00 | astroidex: | 0 |
| 07:23:13 | seven: | Good, motions passes. |
| 07:23:14 | seven: | Thank you. |
| 07:23:34 | seven: | If you have questions on any of these things, please contact me or ask here. |
| 07:23:48 | : | * seven is done for now. |
| 07:23:52 | : | * Testbaudson thinks this is a very good decision |
| 07:24:07 | Testbaudson: | more freedom for the users |
| 07:24:18 | ur: | that's a point |
| 07:24:42 | seven: | Maybe it will make more people who are somewhat afraid of the GPL join the project. |
| 07:25:09 | seven: | That was this week's agenda. |
| 07:25:33 | Testbaudson: | anything else? |
| 07:25:39 | : | * seven will write a mail dev explaining what needs to be done. It is more formal things... |
| 07:25:47 | seven: | I have a question. |
| 07:26:00 | seven: | Anybody savvy with tiles? |
| 07:26:15 | : | * ur not |
| 07:26:28 | seven: | Are the tiling schemes of GoogleMaps and OpenStreetMap compatible? |
| 07:26:38 | Testbaudson: | no idea |
| 07:26:39 | ur: | yes, I think so |
| 07:26:51 | seven: | OK. |
| 07:26:52 | ur: | you can use both together... |
| 07:27:15 | ur: | so it should be compatilbe ?! |
| 07:27:24 | seven: | There are several schemes out there now. Google, Yahoo, OpenStreetMap and a new WMTS canditate standard. |
| 07:27:34 | seven: | Which are we going to implement in Mapbender? |
| 07:27:42 | seven: | One, all of them, when they come? |
| 07:27:43 | Testbaudson: | all |
| 07:27:52 | seven: | He. |
| 07:27:54 | seven: | Cool. |
| 07:27:59 | Testbaudson: | at least on the serve side |
| 07:28:03 | Testbaudson: | server |
| 07:28:15 | seven: | OK. |
| 07:28:33 | Testbaudson: | any funding? |
| 07:28:38 | seven: | Will it use the current WMS configuration administration? |
| 07:29:01 | Testbaudson: | seven: hopefully not |
| 07:29:05 | seven: | re funding: There are several projects in which one of the schemes might need ot be used. |
| 07:29:19 | seven: | Testbaudson: I am not talking internals but GUI. |
| 07:29:20 | seven: | _ |
| 07:29:38 | : | * Testbaudson knows |
| 07:29:56 | seven: | The main advantage of Mapbender over competing clients it that MB has web absed administration for everything. |
| 07:30:09 | seven: | So we will need the whole apparatus: |
| 07:30:24 | seven: | cache "upload Capabilities" |
| 07:30:26 | seven: | update |
| 07:30:29 | seven: | delete |
| 07:30:32 | seven: | security |
| 07:30:33 | seven: | etc. |
| 07:30:53 | seven: | We probably also need a new navigation / zoom tool |
| 07:30:59 | Testbaudson: | if we can come up with a concept, our Soc student can build the admin interfaces |
| 07:31:11 | seven: | that takes care of the scale limits of the tiling schemes. |
| 07:31:20 | seven: | ...this is why I initially asked... |
| 07:31:41 | seven: | Testbaudson: I can put together a set of requirements. |
| 07:31:57 | seven: | If you give me a stub where to start that would be helpful. |
| 07:32:10 | seven: | Maybe we can accompany this projects as it goes. |
| 07:32:14 | seven: | And blog about it. |
| 07:32:26 | Testbaudson: | seven: good idea |
| 07:32:27 | seven: | So that people understand theb governance behind Mapbender. |
| 07:32:47 | seven: | Anythign else on this? |
| 07:32:49 | Testbaudson: | we need the necessary fields for each service |
| 07:32:50 | seven: | Questions? |
| 07:33:15 | seven: | Who of the devs who are here would be interested in having tiling WMS in Mapbender? |
| 07:33:24 | seven: | for client projects or whatever? |
| 07:33:26 | mandsch: | absolutely! |
| 07:33:29 | : | * Testbaudson waves |
| 07:33:32 | ur: | yes |
| 07:33:38 | seven: | Good. |
| 07:33:39 | tbaschetti: | yes |
| 07:33:52 | astroidex: | maybe |
| 07:33:59 | seven: | It seem like this will be something that can be used in many contexts. |
| 07:34:30 | mandsch: | we basically discussed this already when it came to OL integration, didn't we ? |
| 07:34:53 | seven: | No, this is a little different. |
| 07:35:04 | mandsch: | but this apporach would implement a mapbender specific tiling |
| 07:35:06 | mandsch: | ? |
| 07:35:16 | seven: | If we integrate OL, then we do not need to implement it in Mapbender. |
| 07:35:40 | seven: | mandsch: "Mapbender specific" means the internals and GUI. |
| 07:35:59 | seven: | We should obviously support the schemes that are already there. |
| 07:37:22 | seven: | When will 2.6 be stable? |
| 07:37:51 | astroidex: | before Bolsena |
| 07:38:03 | seven: | Good. |
| 07:38:51 | : | * seven has nothing more. |
| 07:39:33 | astroidex: | motion to close the meeting |
| 07:39:43 | seven: | second |
| 07:39:45 | seven: | +1 |
| 07:39:48 | ur: | +1 |
| 07:39:49 | astroidex: | +1 |
| 07:39:52 | Testbaudson: | +1 |
| 07:39:53 | tbaschetti: | +1 |
| 07:39:58 | seven: | have a nice weekend. |
| 07:40:01 | seven: | Ähhhh.... |
| 07:40:07 | tbaschetti: | hrmpf |
| 07:40:11 | tbaschetti: | nice try |
| 07:42:54 | mandsch: | bye |
| 07:44:04 | ur: | bye and cu |