| 06:55:58 | seven__: | Beim Gongschlag ist es siebzehn Uhr. |
| 06:56:42 | Testbaudson: | let's do the roll call first |
| 06:56:45 | Testbaudson: | Christoph |
| 06:56:49 | seven__: | Anurlf is here |
| 06:56:51 | marcm: | marc |
| 06:56:54 | ur: | Uli |
| 06:57:13 | astroidex: | hi |
| 06:57:29 | nazgul: | Mifan |
| 06:58:35 | mandsch: | Michael |
| 06:58:37 | Testbaudson: | agenda is here |
| 06:58:38 | Testbaudson: | http://www.mapbender.org/IRC_Meeting#Meeting_Agenda |
| 06:58:39 | sigq: | Title: IRC Meeting - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 06:58:56 | Testbaudson: | please add your topics |
| 06:59:22 | kmq: | <- Karim is also present |
| 06:59:54 | Testbaudson: | thanks to to everyone for attending :- ) let's begin |
| 07:00:02 | Testbaudson: | ( 1 ) GSoC updates |
| 07:00:09 | Testbaudson: | i've just talked to Karim |
| 07:00:25 | Testbaudson: | I think we have agreed on what to do for the coming weeks |
| 07:00:50 | Testbaudson: | so far, I'm positive we will get some got results |
| 07:01:11 | kmq: | yes, me too :- ) |
| 07:01:13 | Testbaudson: | we are focussing on a few admin interfaces |
| 07:01:23 | Testbaudson: | ajaxify them |
| 07:01:34 | Testbaudson: | and use jquery for better usability |
| 07:01:40 | Testbaudson: | and a web 2.0 flair |
| 07:01:58 | kmq: | well and generally make them easier to use |
| 07:02:00 | : | * seven is interested in joining the man / machine interface design |
| 07:02:26 | seven: | The job will be to implement an admin interface that even ur will use. :- ) |
| 07:02:27 | kmq: | seven: I am open to ideas |
| 07:02:37 | Testbaudson: | Karim will present a draft for a few interfaces in the next weeks |
| 07:02:38 | nazgul: | will the interfaces for the csw client be coming from kmq as well? |
| 07:02:50 | seven: | Ideally yes. |
| 07:02:53 | Testbaudson: | nazgul: it would be good to see some synergy |
| 07:03:03 | Testbaudson: | maybe you can talk to each other |
| 07:03:09 | nazgul: | say, should i draw up some prototypes and put it up on the wiki.... |
| 07:03:10 | nazgul: | ok |
| 07:03:11 | Testbaudson: | and teach each other |
| 07:03:27 | marcm: | do you overwork the wfs configuration too? |
| 07:04:19 | Testbaudson: | marcm: I guess we are building a prototype first |
| 07:04:35 | Testbaudson: | I don't expect we get to the complex interfaces |
| 07:04:46 | marcm: | ok |
| 07:05:27 | Testbaudson: | marcm: but if you have ideas, please share them on the dev list |
| 07:05:49 | Testbaudson: | we will rebuild the WFS monster later this year |
| 07:06:38 | Testbaudson: | so if anybody has any input for kmq, please write a mail to the dev list |
| 07:07:42 | Testbaudson: | the official start of GSoC is May 23rd, so we have almost two weeks left to discuss |
| 07:07:51 | Testbaudson: | about CSW: |
| 07:08:06 | Testbaudson: | we hope to have another meeting at the end of the week |
| 07:08:17 | Testbaudson: | we will post the resume at dev |
| 07:08:42 | Testbaudson: | nazgul: if you have any questions, please let us know |
| 07:09:32 | nazgul: | is it ok if i post some screenshots i found from csw implementations in esri products and geonetwork on the csw page on the wiki? |
| 07:09:51 | nazgul: | so that we can get some ideas from them? or isn't that a good idea..? |
| 07:10:04 | Testbaudson: | i think it's a good idea |
| 07:10:12 | ur: | +1 |
| 07:10:14 | : | * seven thinks that should be ok although we must be careful with copyrights, etc. |
| 07:10:30 | : | * seven will check what you do and comment if necessary. |
| 07:10:31 | Testbaudson: | please feel free to create as much sub-pages as you want |
| 07:10:36 | seven: | Yes. |
| 07:10:39 | astroidex: | +1 |
| 07:11:40 | Testbaudson: | ok to move on to the next topic? |
| 07:11:46 | nazgul: | seven: understood. will check on copyrights before putting images |
| 07:13:04 | seven: | Move to next topic... |
| 07:13:05 | Testbaudson: | ( 2 ) features for 2.7 |
| 07:13:47 | Testbaudson: | we are developing a lot of new functionality at the moment... |
| 07:14:06 | Testbaudson: | we should discuss what to fit into Mapbender 2.7 |
| 07:14:21 | Testbaudson: | I'm thinking about printing |
| 07:14:29 | mandsch: | me too :- ) |
| 07:14:42 | astroidex: | ; ) |
| 07:14:52 | Testbaudson: | mandsch: we should discuss how to merge the print modules |
| 07:14:56 | mandsch: | yep. |
| 07:15:13 | mandsch: | I'm currently a littel bit distracted with other stuff ... |
| 07:15:20 | astroidex: | shall we suggest in trac what functionality to take to 2.7? |
| 07:15:27 | mandsch: | but hope to be back in the next week to developping |
| 07:15:49 | Testbaudson: | I suggest we do this in a seperate meeting... |
| 07:15:54 | mandsch: | +1 |
| 07:15:57 | astroidex: | I mean crate a report with the 2.7 developements |
| 07:16:04 | Testbaudson: | so just pm me next week when your schedule is not so tight |
| 07:16:09 | astroidex: | separat meeting +1 |
| 07:16:14 | mandsch: | Testbaudson: ok. |
| 07:16:32 | Testbaudson: | astroidex: please feel free to create a new report |
| 07:16:43 | astroidex: | I am doing it already |
| 07:16:56 | Testbaudson: | for now, I use the roadmap |
| 07:17:04 | Testbaudson: | but a seperate report is justified |
| 07:17:24 | Testbaudson: | we should be a little more strict with quality this time |
| 07:17:30 | astroidex: | what date release date did we define? |
| 07:17:41 | Testbaudson: | September 1st |
| 07:17:47 | Testbaudson: | for rc1 |
| 07:18:45 | Testbaudson: | it would be nice to check the dependencies of all modules before 2.7 |
| 07:18:52 | mandsch: | do we already have a festure freeze date, too? |
| 07:18:54 | Testbaudson: | and have an API |
| 07:19:00 | Testbaudson: | and a complete module documentation |
| 07:19:10 | Testbaudson: | mandsch: no |
| 07:19:30 | Testbaudson: | something like two weeks before rc1 |
| 07:19:38 | Testbaudson: | as a rule of thumb |
| 07:20:34 | mandsch: | ok |
| 07:20:42 | Testbaudson: | we also have to talk to Peter Freimuth about his "restricted extent" enhancement |
| 07:20:48 | Testbaudson: | it would be nice to have it in 2.7 |
| 07:20:55 | : | * Testbaudson will contact him |
| 07:21:21 | astroidex: | I create a report: see also Roadmap http://www.mapbender.org/Roadmap_2009 |
| 07:21:23 | sigq: | Title: Roadmap 2009 - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:22:33 | Testbaudson: | it would be great to include GSoC results in 2.7 |
| 07:22:52 | astroidex: | yes |
| 07:23:13 | Testbaudson: | we should keep it in mind during GSoC |
| 07:23:38 | Testbaudson: | any input on Mapbender 2.7 |
| 07:23:48 | Testbaudson: | ? |
| 07:24:25 | astroidex: | when is feature freeze ? |
| 07:24:35 | Testbaudson: | August 15th |
| 07:24:39 | astroidex: | ok |
| 07:24:42 | verena: | what about the gazetteerWFS with the Geoportal-RLP functionality? |
| 07:24:51 | verena: | WFS Editor |
| 07:24:55 | marcm: | the slippy map seems great |
| 07:24:55 | Testbaudson: | verena: good point |
| 07:25:07 | Testbaudson: | verena: please create a trac enhancement ticket |
| 07:25:13 | Testbaudson: | with milestone 2.7 |
| 07:25:30 | verena: | ok,I willdo that. |
| 07:25:33 | verena: | will do |
| 07:25:34 | Testbaudson: | marcm: we still need funding...it's not finished :-( |
| 07:25:47 | Testbaudson: | hopefully we can add it |
| 07:25:47 | marcm: | :-( |
| 07:26:02 | mandsch: | Have you had any luck with opacity printing? |
| 07:26:19 | Testbaudson: | ur? astroidex? |
| 07:26:45 | mandsch: | I saw that the rotation module will need phpimagick ... |
| 07:26:57 | astroidex: | astroidex - no |
| 07:26:57 | mandsch: | does this have additional functionality? |
| 07:27:18 | ur: | mandsch: yes |
| 07:27:23 | astroidex: | I created a report Milestones 3.0: http://www.mapbender.org/Roadmap_2009 |
| 07:27:24 | sigq: | Title: Roadmap 2009 - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:27:40 | astroidex: | we have to look, which tickets we can take to 2.7 |
| 07:27:54 | ur: | mandsch: there was a problem with the gd functionality |
| 07:28:17 | ur: | mandsch: on debian / ubuntu |
| 07:29:36 | ur: | mandsch: rotate was available only in bundled gd libraries |
| 07:29:51 | mandsch: | argh ... |
| 07:30:08 | ur: | yes |
| 07:30:19 | Testbaudson: | ur: how about opacity printing? did we find a solution? |
| 07:30:33 | ur: | yes |
| 07:30:49 | mandsch: | great. |
| 07:30:57 | ur: | phpimagick |
| 07:31:06 | ur: | :-( |
| 07:32:34 | mandsch: | ok, but at least we have a way to do it ... |
| 07:33:11 | Testbaudson: | any more input on Mapbender 2.7? |
| 07:34:06 | astroidex: | I will generate a link in th eversion history too http://www.mapbender.org/index.php/Version_History |
| 07:34:07 | sigq: | Title: Version History - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:34:45 | Testbaudson: | astroidex: thanks |
| 07:35:03 | Testbaudson: | ( 3 ) 2.6 release schedule |
| 07:35:55 | Testbaudson: | 33 open tickets |
| 07:36:02 | Testbaudson: | we should examine what blockers we have |
| 07:36:28 | Testbaudson: | the current priorization is not really helpful |
| 07:36:33 | Testbaudson: | http://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&milestone=2.6+release |
| 07:36:34 | sigq: | Title: Custom Query - Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:36:56 | Testbaudson: | anyone? which blockers do you see? |
| 07:37:42 | astroidex: | just a moment |
| 07:38:42 | astroidex: | I would say there are a lot blockers |
| 07:39:01 | astroidex: | the functionality from 2.5 should still work in 2.6 |
| 07:39:35 | astroidex: | copyright, scalebar, print |
| 07:40:09 | Testbaudson: | if there are problems with any of these modules, we should have a ticket |
| 07:40:18 | Testbaudson: | is there a ticket? |
| 07:40:19 | astroidex: | but I think some of the bugs are cause by the new architecture overveiw and mapframe1 without iframe |
| 07:40:23 | : | * Testbaudson searches... |
| 07:40:28 | astroidex: | yes |
| 07:40:40 | astroidex: | http://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender/ticket/430 |
| 07:40:41 | sigq: | Title: #430 ( scalebar is not displayed ) - Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:40:53 | astroidex: | http://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender/ticket/412 copyright |
| 07:40:54 | sigq: | Title: #412 ( Copyright transfer to OSGeo ) - Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:41:01 | astroidex: | print http://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender/ticket/429 |
| 07:41:02 | sigq: | Title: #429 ( Print - new font LiberationSans-Regular causes error ) - Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:41:29 | Testbaudson: | ok, I raised the priorities |
| 07:41:35 | Testbaudson: | thanks for letting us know |
| 07:41:38 | astroidex: | I should not be too much work to fix this misbehavoir |
| 07:42:16 | Testbaudson: | I don't think we have a date for 2.6 yet |
| 07:42:19 | Testbaudson: | or do we? |
| 07:42:24 | Testbaudson: | before Bolsena? |
| 07:42:42 | astroidex: | we said before bolsena once |
| 07:42:50 | astroidex: | this would be great |
| 07:43:32 | astroidex: | who coudl help to fix the tickets |
| 07:44:02 | Testbaudson: | I have changed the dates in the roadmap |
| 07:44:06 | Testbaudson: | for 2.6 and 2.7 |
| 07:44:06 | marcm: | me |
| 07:44:14 | astroidex: | coool ; ) |
| 07:44:26 | mandsch: | I can also look into some of them ... |
| 07:44:41 | marcm: | of those i know i have to do |
| 07:45:09 | marcm: | i mean: of those i know i what have to do |
| 07:45:20 | Testbaudson: | just grab a ticket you think you can fix |
| 07:45:20 | mandsch: | what about: http://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender/ticket/460 |
| 07:45:22 | sigq: | Title: #460 ( area calculation isn't correct ) - Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:45:43 | mandsch: | has anything changed or was it never correct? |
| 07:45:48 | astroidex: | 460 - is wrong because of EPSG 4326 |
| 07:46:09 | Testbaudson: | nevertheless, a proper message for the user is needed |
| 07:46:10 | astroidex: | ist only works with metric epsg |
| 07:46:13 | mandsch: | ok ... no sweat then ... |
| 07:46:18 | astroidex: | in gui2 epsg 4326 is choosed |
| 07:46:33 | astroidex: | it works fin e in gui1 |
| 07:46:53 | : | * seven grumbles that we shoudl simply fix the module once and for all... |
| 07:47:14 | astroidex: | good idea - we have postgis and could do the calculation |
| 07:49:38 | Testbaudson: | ok...so let's try to narrow down the bug list for 2.6 |
| 07:49:44 | Testbaudson: | and have the release in June |
| 07:49:48 | astroidex: | ok |
| 07:49:58 | astroidex: | everyone has a look at the tickets |
| 07:50:32 | mandsch: | what about the installation process ...? |
| 07:50:41 | Testbaudson: | mandsch: good point |
| 07:50:45 | mandsch: | is install.sh working correctly? |
| 07:50:53 | Testbaudson: | at least on my machine :- ) |
| 07:51:12 | marcm: | my test's worked too |
| 07:51:16 | mandsch: | i tried it also and it went smooth |
| 07:51:34 | Testbaudson: | I fear I won't have time for the update routine... |
| 07:51:36 | mandsch: | but i had some strange errors later in the guis. ... |
| 07:51:44 | Testbaudson: | I think this is something for Bolsena |
| 07:53:11 | marcm: | wouldn't it be nicer to create a php installation script? |
| 07:53:18 | Testbaudson: | marcm: yes |
| 07:53:29 | mandsch: | I'd have one additional topic ... just a short question, when we are finished with the last topic. |
| 07:53:43 | Testbaudson: | install.sh is just a quick hack for testing the installation before the release |
| 07:54:03 | Testbaudson: | I think we don't have time for topic 4... |
| 07:54:09 | Testbaudson: | please mandsch, ask your question |
| 07:54:17 | mandsch: | uh, ok... |
| 07:54:33 | mandsch: | has anyone thought about making mapbender a FGS application ? |
| 07:54:45 | mandsch: | FGS is the ms4w equivalent for linux .. |
| 07:54:59 | : | * Testbaudson has never heard of it |
| 07:55:02 | mandsch: | http://www.maptools.org/fgs/ |
| 07:55:03 | sigq: | Title: FGS.MapTools.org ( at www.maptools.org ) |
| 07:55:30 | mandsch: | I am not sure which one was first ms4w or fgs |
| 07:55:53 | mandsch: | it is propably not so known, since most of us do everything by hand on linux ... |
| 07:56:19 | mandsch: | but i tried it in hte last weeks, and it is as nice and smooth as ms4w |
| 07:56:57 | mandsch: | If there are no objections I'll create a wiki page |
| 07:57:22 | Testbaudson: | please go ahead! |
| 07:57:29 | Testbaudson: | thanks for letting us know |
| 07:57:55 | astroidex: | I added mapbender to ms4w |
| 07:58:12 | astroidex: | we could exchange about the experiences |
| 07:58:30 | mandsch: | yep |
| 07:58:44 | astroidex: | http://maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=downloads.html |
| 07:58:45 | sigq: | Title: MS4W.MapTools.org ( at maptools.org ) |
| 07:59:22 | Testbaudson: | anything else? |
| 07:59:35 | : | * Testbaudson motions to close the meeting |
| 07:59:41 | astroidex: | +1 |
| 07:59:49 | seven: | +1 |
| 07:59:52 | verena: | +1 |
| 07:59:54 | marcm: | +1 |
| 07:59:54 | mandsch: | +1 |
| 07:59:55 | seven: | Thnaks All |
| 08:00:16 | Testbaudson: | thanks for the huge turnip...ehm, turn-up |
| 08:00:24 | Testbaudson: | bye |
| 08:00:28 | verena: | bye, have a nice evening. |
| 08:00:28 | astroidex: | bye |
| 08:00:38 | marcm: | bye |
| 08:00:44 | mandsch: | bye |