| 02:25:29 | kmq: | leaving the ON/OFF field empty when defining a GUI element, yields an unspecific error message |
| 02:25:34 | kmq: | would it be reasonable to change this to default to 1 ? |
| 02:54:33 | Testbaudson: | ouch |
| 02:54:48 | Testbaudson: | hmm..I guess the default should be off |
| 02:54:51 | Testbaudson: | 0 |
| 02:55:06 | Testbaudson: | maybe file a bug in Trac |
| 02:55:19 | Testbaudson: | https://trac.osgeo.org/mapbender |
| 02:55:20 | sigq: | Title: Mapbender - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 06:58:08 | Testbaudson: | 1700 |
| 06:58:11 | Testbaudson: | meeting time |
| 06:58:27 | Testbaudson: | agenda is here |
| 06:58:28 | Testbaudson: | http://www.mapbender.org/IRC_Meeting#Meeting_Agenda |
| 06:58:29 | sigq: | Title: IRC Meeting - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 06:58:41 | mandsch: | Hi, Michael is also here. |
| 06:58:43 | Testbaudson: | Please feel free to add you topics |
| 06:58:53 | Testbaudson: | Ok, let's do the roll call |
| 06:58:59 | Testbaudson: | Christoph is here |
| 06:59:07 | mandsch: | Michael ;- ) |
| 06:59:08 | ur: | uli too |
| 06:59:10 | tbaschetti: | Thomas |
| 06:59:10 | nazgul: | Mifan here |
| 06:59:55 | Testbaudson: | how about kmq and seven? |
| 07:00:29 | : | * seven_ is here |
| 07:00:44 | Testbaudson: | I guess kmq will be with us in a minute |
| 07:00:59 | Testbaudson: | so let's start with topic 1 |
| 07:01:05 | Testbaudson: | ( 1 ) GSoC Q&A |
| 07:01:11 | Testbaudson: | GSoC has officially started |
| 07:01:16 | Testbaudson: | on Saturday |
| 07:01:34 | Testbaudson: | so the weekly reports will be due each Friday |
| 07:02:22 | Testbaudson: | I guess there is a section in the OSGeo Wiki |
| 07:02:27 | Testbaudson: | for weekly reports |
| 07:02:40 | Testbaudson: | I suggest you just link to your reports in the Mapbender Wiki |
| 07:02:53 | kmq: | ok |
| 07:03:01 | nazgul: | righto |
| 07:03:17 | seven: | /msg Testbaudson Du warst zu früh :- ) |
| 07:03:18 | seven: | 06:59:55 Testbaudson: how about kmq and seven? |
| 07:03:21 | seven: | 07:00:29 : * seven_ is here |
| 07:03:26 | nazgul: | so we have the reports in the mapbender wiki, and link from osgeo to there....? |
| 07:04:07 | Testbaudson: | nazgul: yes |
| 07:04:17 | Testbaudson: | but I can't find the OSGeo wiki site |
| 07:04:25 | Testbaudson: | maybe it was the OSGeo mailing list for SoC |
| 07:04:32 | Testbaudson: | I will ask Wolf |
| 07:04:36 | Testbaudson: | and let you know |
| 07:04:42 | nazgul: | ok |
| 07:05:00 | Testbaudson: | so, nazgul, what do you want to discuss? |
| 07:05:48 | nazgul: | 1 ) when accessing catalog servers, is there some authentication mechanism too? |
| 07:06:21 | nazgul: | since in teh geonetwork csw client, there is a place to enter a username, password |
| 07:06:39 | nazgul: | is that handled in the OGC CSW? |
| 07:06:40 | ur: | last week we talk about ogc spec vs. iso api for csw |
| 07:07:33 | nazgul: | ok... i went through the updated csw requirements on the wiki |
| 07:07:40 | nazgul: | sorry that I couldn |
| 07:07:49 | nazgul: | *couldn't make it last week |
| 07:08:43 | Testbaudson: | ur: do you care to elaborate? |
| 07:09:23 | ur: | yes |
| 07:09:53 | ur: | maybe we need the iso api extension as a csw profile |
| 07:10:09 | ur: | because they provide the service informations |
| 07:10:34 | nazgul: | ok... |
| 07:10:42 | ur: | so we need some profiles - one of them is the iso api profile |
| 07:11:02 | ur: | so it should be configurable which profile should be used |
| 07:11:12 | nazgul: | ah right |
| 07:13:07 | ur: | maybe another one is inspire |
| 07:13:18 | ur: | or it is the same as iso api |
| 07:13:18 | nazgul: | the profiles are set in the admin interface? |
| 07:14:05 | nazgul: | or can the user chose which profile to use in the csw search interface itself? |
| 07:14:47 | ur: | no I think the admin should do that |
| 07:15:23 | nazgul: | ok |
| 07:15:57 | ur: | the admin should be albel to put some xml definitions for profiles in a directory |
| 07:16:20 | nazgul: | ok |
| 07:16:24 | ur: | and in the administration there is a selectbox which lists the content of this directory |
| 07:16:51 | ur: | just a proposal |
| 07:16:58 | nazgul: | ok |
| 07:18:12 | Testbaudson: | nazgul: anything else? |
| 07:18:18 | nazgul: | 2 ) Was just wondering - how does a user get into the CSW client interface...? |
| 07:18:40 | nazgul: | will there be a small icon/button above the map letting the user go into the search interface? |
| 07:19:47 | Testbaudson: | nazgul: we can discuss this |
| 07:19:55 | Testbaudson: | either there is a form in an accordion |
| 07:20:02 | Testbaudson: | as in the template "gui" |
| 07:20:05 | nazgul: | ok |
| 07:20:08 | Testbaudson: | or we have a button |
| 07:20:11 | nazgul: | right |
| 07:21:05 | nazgul: | ok....maybe we can decide on this as we move on... |
| 07:21:13 | Testbaudson: | yes |
| 07:21:17 | ur: | great |
| 07:21:36 | nazgul: | ok...i'm done for now... the rest i'll put in mails... |
| 07:21:55 | Testbaudson: | thanks nazgul |
| 07:21:59 | nazgul: | if anyone has suggestions with the UIs I posted, please let me know |
| 07:22:01 | nazgul: | thanks |
| 07:22:27 | Testbaudson: | yes, let's make sure we have some traffic on the dev list |
| 07:22:40 | Testbaudson: | everybody is welcome |
| 07:22:47 | Testbaudson: | ok, let's move on to kmq |
| 07:23:00 | Testbaudson: | I guess your mail sums up your status |
| 07:23:14 | Testbaudson: | ( mail at dev list ) |
| 07:23:27 | kmq: | me? yes |
| 07:23:29 | kmq: | mostly |
| 07:23:44 | Testbaudson: | http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/mapbender_dev/2009-May/001553.html |
| 07:23:45 | sigq: | Title: [Mapbender-dev] [gsoc09] Admininterface ideas ( at lists.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:24:10 | Testbaudson: | Has anyone taken a look at the two suggestions? |
| 07:24:34 | Testbaudson: | If not, now is a good time :- ) |
| 07:27:39 | Testbaudson: | Is anyone reading kmq's mail? |
| 07:28:00 | mandsch: | sure, looking at the sketches .. |
| 07:28:19 | seven: | First off: This looks really good. |
| 07:28:27 | kmq: | thank you |
| 07:28:35 | : | * seven will start to follow dev more closely again. Promised. |
| 07:28:53 | mandsch: | I find the object centric view very appealing. |
| 07:29:02 | seven: | The layout of the admin interfaces can evolve during implementation. |
| 07:29:37 | seven: | Lets use them both for testing. Then practitioneers can then give feedback. |
| 07:29:52 | kmq: | ok |
| 07:29:58 | Testbaudson: | I'm not sure... |
| 07:30:19 | Testbaudson: | the function centric view is basically what we have now... |
| 07:30:51 | Testbaudson: | do you think we should work on both ideas? |
| 07:31:04 | kmq: | well, the javascripot code behing should be similar |
| 07:31:19 | Testbaudson: | kmq, if you think it's possible, we can follow both ways |
| 07:31:29 | Testbaudson: | if not, please give feedback |
| 07:31:30 | mandsch: | can both be combined with mapbender current permissions layout? |
| 07:31:44 | kmq: | or, can be made to be similar |
| 07:31:46 | kmq: | so it should be possible |
| 07:31:59 | kmq: | if I implement the thing in that object centric manner |
| 07:33:38 | Testbaudson: | yes, should be possible |
| 07:33:52 | Testbaudson: | I think we should do an evaluation |
| 07:33:58 | Testbaudson: | for the existing admin modules |
| 07:34:07 | Testbaudson: | and see how they would play out in each way |
| 07:35:55 | mandsch: | good idea. |
| 07:36:00 | Testbaudson: | the advantage of the object view is, that there are less redundant form elements |
| 07:36:26 | Testbaudson: | currently, each modules has its own "filter" |
| 07:37:26 | Testbaudson: | ok, let's discuss this on list |
| 07:37:40 | Testbaudson: | anything else, kmq? |
| 07:38:41 | Testbaudson: | maybe we continue with topic 2... |
| 07:38:46 | Testbaudson: | ( 2 ) print module |
| 07:39:17 | Testbaudson: | I will create a branch for the rotatable print module |
| 07:39:42 | Testbaudson: | mandsch, then you can take a look at it |
| 07:39:45 | mandsch: | ok, good. this is based on trunk? |
| 07:39:50 | Testbaudson: | unfortunately not |
| 07:39:54 | Testbaudson: | it is based on 2.5 |
| 07:40:06 | mandsch: | I just merged the print-dev with trunk ... |
| 07:40:17 | Testbaudson: | nice |
| 07:40:26 | mandsch: | no, the other way round ... i merged trunk into print_dev ... |
| 07:40:28 | mandsch: | ;- ) |
| 07:40:44 | Testbaudson: | nice |
| 07:40:53 | Testbaudson: | maybe we can discuss merging your changes back into trunk |
| 07:41:04 | Testbaudson: | are there a lot of changes? |
| 07:41:11 | mandsch: | ok, but so i take the rotation stuff from the rotation branch and tryto merge it with the print module. |
| 07:41:33 | mandsch: | hmm, I'd rather finish the whole module before merging it back. |
| 07:41:37 | Testbaudson: | ok |
| 07:41:45 | mandsch: | there are two decorators missing, that i'd liek to finish ... |
| 07:41:54 | Testbaudson: | so I'll get that branch ready and send a mail to dev |
| 07:41:57 | mandsch: | esp. kegend is not there ... :-( |
| 07:42:00 | mandsch: | legend |
| 07:42:19 | seven: | Has anyone thought about making a CR to the OGC WMS work group to add an optional parameter ROTATE? |
| 07:42:49 | mandsch: | not yet. |
| 07:43:09 | : | * seven makes a note that mandsch will do that. |
| 07:43:11 | seven: | :- ) |
| 07:43:14 | mandsch: | :- ) |
| 07:43:25 | ur: | two years later, it may be usable :- ) |
| 07:43:29 | seven: | You can do that without being a member. |
| 07:43:34 | seven: | Opponent. |
| 07:43:42 | mandsch: | but only deegree implemted it then so far |
| 07:43:52 | seven: | did they? |
| 07:44:00 | mandsch: | after the two years ... ;- ) |
| 07:44:11 | ur: | :- ) |
| 07:44:12 | seven: | Hey, relax. |
| 07:44:24 | seven: | OGC is you and you try to be as good as you can. |
| 07:44:26 | mandsch: | I wonder if mapservers rotation paramter can be used already for that? |
| 07:44:34 | seven: | Do they have one? |
| 07:44:47 | mandsch: | I think there is something ... |
| 07:44:55 | : | * seven notes that she is out of the loop. |
| 07:45:09 | seven: | If you find anything out pls. let me know. |
| 07:45:13 | mandsch: | but i don'T know if it's really usable |
| 07:45:21 | seven: | Well, thats normal. |
| 07:45:27 | mandsch: | we need rotation of annotation, dont' we? |
| 07:45:28 | seven: | If its there we just need to make it work. |
| 07:45:33 | seven: | Yes. |
| 07:45:44 | seven: | But right now I think MB re renders the image. |
| 07:45:50 | mandsch: | I think they also can rotate the whole map ... |
| 07:45:56 | seven: | Cool. |
| 07:46:17 | mandsch: | I'll research that. |
| 07:46:24 | Testbaudson: | but an OGC certified solution would be best |
| 07:46:37 | Testbaudson: | we should really make a CR |
| 07:46:44 | mandsch: | There's nothing in 13? |
| 07:46:48 | mandsch: | 1.3? |
| 07:47:26 | Testbaudson: | I don't know |
| 07:47:31 | : | * seven neither. |
| 07:47:51 | seven: | Well, we can find out and then proceed either way. |
| 07:47:57 | seven: | Whose job is that? |
| 07:48:14 | seven: | Who is interested in taking on the job. |
| 07:48:23 | : | * seven bites her tongue. Wrong wording. |
| 07:48:46 | mandsch: | If i look into mapserver i can also look into 1.3 ... |
| 07:49:14 | Testbaudson: | thanks mandsch |
| 07:49:39 | seven: | mandsch: +1 |
| 07:50:06 | : | * seven is distracted by an #osgeo discussion wrt geotools fork... Interesting read. |
| 07:50:51 | Testbaudson: | mandsch: do you need any other input? |
| 07:51:02 | Testbaudson: | besides the branch? |
| 07:51:12 | mandsch: | well, I'm open to any input regarding the print module |
| 07:51:21 | mandsch: | Atrid created a module wiki page |
| 07:51:44 | mandsch: | http://www.mapbender.org/PrintPDF_with_template |
| 07:51:45 | sigq: | Title: PrintPDF with template - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:52:00 | mandsch: | i added a wiki page on the configuration via json |
| 07:52:07 | mandsch: | http://www.mapbender.org/PrintPDF_with_template_-_JSON_configuration |
| 07:52:08 | sigq: | Title: PrintPDF with template - JSON configuration - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:52:23 | mandsch: | I also updated the class diagramm for the print module |
| 07:52:34 | Testbaudson: | coool...great documentation |
| 07:52:43 | mandsch: | http://www.mapbender.org/Talk:Print |
| 07:52:45 | sigq: | Title: Talk:Print - MapbenderWiki ( at www.mapbender.org ) |
| 07:53:36 | mandsch: | I think it will need solme cleaning up ... |
| 07:53:56 | : | * seven is impressed and makes another note that she is out of touch... |
| 07:54:59 | Testbaudson: | I think we're done... |
| 07:55:04 | Testbaudson: | any other topics? |
| 07:55:17 | mandsch: | nope |
| 07:55:31 | : | * Testbaudson motions to close the meeting... |
| 07:55:59 | : | * mandsch seconds +1 |
| 07:56:54 | seven: | +1 |
| 07:56:56 | Testbaudson: | thx for attending |
| 07:56:57 | seven: | Thanks. |
| 07:56:59 | Testbaudson: | bye |
| 07:57:04 | seven: | Bye. |
| 07:57:15 | mandsch: | cu, bye. |
| 07:57:25 | : | * Testbaudson hopes the rain has stopped for good |
| 07:57:52 | ur: | bye |