#MAPSERVER IRC Log - 2009-12-04

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02:24:04 greg__: Hi folks, i am accessing many jp2 files ( a 16bit DEM ) from mapserver via wcs. The problem is that the returned image does not have exactly the same dn values as the original jp2 files ( they are close though -+ 5dns ). The output is a geotiff. The data is not shifted, it is using nearest neighbour, resolution is the same. Does anyone have any ideas? cheers
02:40:07 greg__: I've tried using gdal_translate on one of the jp2 files and it does the same thing on the output geotiff, so maybe a question for gdal community?
06:12:38 acxty: Hi guys, When I am going to use an image as a symbol. Where should the image be located ( Is there a special folder? )
06:27:40 aboudreault: no, there is no special folder.
06:35:04 acxty: I have this http://dpaste.com/129039/ I get no error but also no icon
06:35:06 sigabrt: Title: dpaste: #129039 ( at dpaste.com )
06:36:43 acxty: do you find something wrong on it? the symbol and the layer are in the same map file
06:40:29 aboudreault: did you try to increase its size ?
06:42:30 acxty: the image size is 32x32
06:43:46 acxty: try increasing the size and nothing
07:08:23 acxty: I can see the label but not the symbol
07:09:38 akrherz: I may be wrong, but try setting a color for the style COLOR 0 0 0
07:25:02 jmckenna: remove the transparent line?
07:31:17 jmckenna: and what label? ( your paste includes no label )
08:04:48 CIA-6: assefa * r9573 /trunk/mapserver/mapwfs.c: WFS hits count is incorrect if the request contain 2 layers or more. Previous commit was incomplete #3244
09:03:23 : * jmckenna thinks the CBC needs an improved map for http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/fifaworldcup/draw/ : )
09:03:24 sigabrt: Title: CBC.ca Sports - South Africa Draw 2010 ( at www.cbc.ca )
09:26:37 : * jmckenna makes me proud we brought foss4g to cape town : )
09:46:23 sdlime: Hi woodbri
09:46:45 jmckenna: is there a wiki page with image options or something?
09:46:56 jmckenna: sdlime: hi! : )
09:48:09 sdlime: Hi Jeff, I didn't create a page...
09:48:50 sdlime: How about a trac ticket? I can create that quick and add a couple of attachments
09:49:12 jmckenna: sure whatever's easier
09:49:43 sdlime: it's ticket #3225
09:51:24 pnaciona: You beat me to it. I had it at http://www.mapgeek.org/~pnaciona/data/mapserver_logo_basic.svg
09:51:36 danmo: before the logo meeting starts, jmckenna, aboudreault, if I package the 5.6.0 release this afternoon are you good to have some binary packages by Monday? I'd wait for the official announcement until your binaries are available
09:52:02 jmckenna: danmo: i was gonna suggest to you that i package before..i can do this this afternoon if u wish
09:52:15 danmo: ( the other way arouond, I mean I'd wait until your binary packages are available for the final announcement )
09:52:27 danmo: jmckenna: ok. I'll try to do it before the end of the afternoon
09:52:52 jmckenna: danmo: that works for me. if not i can do on weekend also, either works
09:53:43 sdlime: Ready to start?
09:53:43 danmo: I think we can wait until Monday for the announcement. That would leave time for the website updates too
09:53:52 jmckenna: ok fair
09:53:58 danmo: sdlime: yes go ahead, I'm done with my release noise
09:54:23 sdlime: Cool... both of the recent SVG files I posted are available in trac, ticket #3225
09:54:27 aboudreault: danmo: yep, I can do the ubuntu binaries today or tomorrow.
09:54:43 danmo: http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/attachment/ticket/3225/mapserver_logo.svg
09:54:45 sigabrt: Title: #3225: mapserver_logo.svg - MapServer - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org )
09:55:13 sdlime: one has colors and various fonts, the other is more basic
09:56:09 sdlime: I guess I'd like to get a feel for the basic design and given that set a process for adopting something...
09:56:33 pnaciona: I'll go. I like the mapserver letters inside each block
09:56:45 sdlime: Personally I like it ;- ) and think any Windows similarities can be avoided
09:56:57 pnaciona: with the suggestions added by Bart and Hobu
09:57:17 jmckenna: pnaciona: can u refresh my foggy memory?
09:57:35 sdlime: warping/rotating characters was barts
09:57:47 pnaciona: jmckenna: it's the top right logo
09:58:04 sdlime: howard also suggested some sort of character effect
09:58:26 pnaciona: bart wants the characters to follow the angle of the panel it's in
09:58:35 pnaciona: Hobu want's colors
09:58:37 : * danmo hope we're expecting to run that through a grahics designer to get some styling
09:58:49 sdlime: danmo: yes!
09:59:05 hobu: yeah, I wanted cholopeth styling of the panels with some sort of letters inside the panels.
09:59:19 pnaciona: So, we
09:59:20 sdlime: I'd really like to throw the basic design out to the community and get options from them...
09:59:27 sdlime: my 2 cents
09:59:29 pnaciona: we're deciding an official logo
09:59:41 jmckenna: i would agree that the letters inside work
09:59:43 pnaciona: can we also leave room for derivatives
09:59:52 pnaciona: aka the penguin and google
10:00:09 sdlime: the panels can exist without the letters
10:00:22 pnaciona: yeah!
10:01:00 sdlime: i could also see superimposing simple features on the panels ( a map )
10:01:13 sdlime: as a way to add color...
10:01:19 jmckenna: i like that
10:01:32 pnaciona: that's what I'm curious to see, Steve
10:01:37 hobu: that respects the folding ...
10:02:00 sdlime: yes, you'd draw plannar and then fold the map...
10:02:13 hobu: Would be fine with me. Do we want to keep the same font we currently have?
10:02:24 pnaciona: which font?
10:02:29 pnaciona: on the mapserver website
10:02:31 pnaciona: ?
10:02:36 hobu: http://mapserver.org/_static/mapserver.jpg
10:03:14 hobu: I could dig that up if we care to reference the past logo
10:03:17 danmo: We could look at both horizontal and vertical folds and pick the best... I think horizontal may look better than vertical with the letters inside the boxes ... I like the resulting S shape
10:03:19 sdlime: something like that, probably a simpler map
10:03:44 pnaciona: that looks good. Did you use an unencumbered font?
10:03:50 danmo: right. you can't have too much detail in a logo. it has to look good at all sizes
10:04:08 hobu: pnaciona: I think it was one of the default adobe illustrator/photoshop ones
10:04:09 sdlime: at small sizes you'd just go to solid fills...
10:04:34 pnaciona: hobu: thanks, that works
10:04:55 hobu: if we have our hearts on letters in the panels, it would be a bad font
10:05:11 pnaciona: I generally like the sans serif fonts or the ones with not very gaudy serifs
10:05:17 sdlime: I don't have my heart set on letters in the pannels
10:05:22 danmo: thinking out loud, we could try putting the OSGeo compass in light green as backdrop behind the lotters
10:05:31 danmo: *letters
10:05:56 sdlime: in the panels?
10:06:15 danmo: with letters in the panel, but the compass would be split over the 9 boxes
10:06:28 hobu: sdlime: me neither. I have my heart on some abstracted feature( s ) in the panels, text of "MapServer" and no SS-style S in the middle of MapServer ; )
10:06:29 jmckenna: that's throwing a lot of info in
10:06:37 pnaciona: Danmo: that may be better left off as a derivative... maybe a shadow in the logo... : )
10:06:48 sdlime: danmo: getting pretty busy
10:07:00 danmo: well, map features will be busy as well... just an idea
10:07:11 sdlime: hobo: agree'd that's what I was thinking...
10:07:32 jmckenna: hobu: +1 : ) i'm starting to side off the text-in-panel wagon
10:07:37 sdlime: danmo: I'm thinking very simple features, couple of polys and line...
10:08:29 hobu: yep. something as simple as a street, a stream, a pond, and a bus stop : )
10:08:43 sdlime: I could work up a sample, basic point, line and polygon...
10:08:50 jmckenna: hobu: in your vision, do you see one set of panels with the mapserver text outside, or do u see several images?
10:08:59 pnaciona: I was thinking the backdrop map can be anything...
10:09:15 jmckenna: images/objects
10:09:19 hobu: pnaciona: yeah. just doing the point, line, poly thing
10:09:43 pnaciona: yeah
10:09:49 hobu: sorry guys, I gotta run now. I like where things are going, and I'd pretty much be happy with anything except the SS logo ; )
10:10:10 sdlime: do you have any feeling about a contest?
10:10:15 pnaciona: yay, for the inverted logo! ; )
10:10:35 hobu: contest took eons for osgeo, and in the end limited us
10:10:36 pnaciona: or should I say 90 degree turn
10:11:08 pnaciona: I think we're good where we are... keep a simple logo definition
10:11:15 pnaciona: keep a simple logo
10:11:17 jmckenna: yup
10:11:27 danmo: pnaciona: good graphic designers can do wonders
10:11:34 sdlime: should I work up a feature oriented version, simple and spread across the panels?
10:11:42 pnaciona: let others add their artistic touch
10:11:48 jmckenna: sdlime: yes please
10:11:48 pnaciona: sdlime: yup!
10:12:10 sdlime: then we could hand that off to a designer...
10:12:18 pnaciona: that would be great!
10:12:51 sdlime: how to compensate them?
10:12:53 danmo: I can ping the one who did the Mapgears logo and see if he'd do it in exchange for some credits on the website in a "logo" page
10:13:02 jmckenna: good plan...should we be considering findinf funding...exactly
10:13:18 pnaciona: One thing, can we get the features in the logo as layers?
10:13:27 pnaciona: eg. 1 layer for the blocks
10:13:33 pnaciona: 1 layer for the letters
10:13:37 sdlime: how do you mean
10:13:44 woodbri: Hi all, sorry got a call I could get off of
10:13:46 pnaciona: and another layer for the background map
10:13:50 woodbri: reading the logs
10:13:54 sdlime: I think folks are not sold on the letters...
10:14:14 pnaciona: that we they can be removed if they're not wanted/needed
10:14:15 sdlime: I'd prefer not having them, too busy
10:14:21 aboudreault: personnally, I would prefer without letters.
10:14:46 aboudreault: We already have the MapServer text on the right
10:14:49 pnaciona: no problem there. I just want to see what it would really look like
10:14:51 sdlime: I think a designer could pair a nice MapServer font...
10:14:54 pnaciona: if it's there
10:15:01 jmckenna: without also, just simple features, and text outside ( hobu's suggestion )
10:15:30 sdlime: let me work up a sample and share it first thing next week...
10:15:41 danmo: cool
10:15:52 jmckenna: great
10:16:02 woodbri: sounds good to me
10:16:03 sdlime: dan, then if you can see how we can buy your designer
10:16:15 sdlime: I like the mapgears logo btw
10:17:03 danmo: will check... the original design I sent him for Mapgears was quite rought and far from what we've got today... he came up with a few options and I really like the result... most people tell us they like it
10:17:35 pnaciona: Cool! it is a very nice logo ( Mapgears )
10:17:36 sdlime: if other folks know designers that enjoy beer let us know...
10:17:57 danmo: we could do the same for MapServer, come up with guidelines on what we want and the direction we want to take, and let him come up with some ideas of his own
10:18:16 danmo: yeah, we could do a mini-contest with invited designers only...
10:18:22 danmo: I mean private contest
10:18:58 sdlime: i'd prefer to hand off a rough draft rather than something completely wide open
10:19:43 pnaciona: let's get something finalized and then let the creative tinkerers do their thing... how about that?
10:19:56 sdlime: +1
10:19:59 danmo: +1
10:20:03 aboudreault: +1
10:20:03 woodbri: yeah, but if they a random idea they really think merits consideration then they should present it
10:20:08 woodbri: +1
10:20:10 pnaciona: +1
10:20:24 pnaciona: when that happens, we can do this again : )
10:20:32 jmckenna: ha +1
10:20:48 FrankW: +1
10:20:56 woodbri: what you mean an annual event?
10:20:59 sdlime: we tried it way back with at MUM 1 for the t-shirt logo. Visualizing MapServer is a tough one...
10:20:59 pnaciona: just make sure the copyright is open so we can get changes back
10:21:52 pnaciona: no, if enough people clamor for a redesign
10:22:00 sdlime: MapGears is much easier... ;- ) Tom Burk wanted a waiter with a map on a tray at one point ( get it, server )
10:22:11 pnaciona: haha!
10:22:14 danmo: : )
10:22:21 jmckenna: classic!
10:22:34 sdlime: Meeting adjourned?
10:22:50 danmo: sure. have a great weekend everyone
10:23:02 pnaciona: second
10:23:03 jmckenna: will you post drafts to that ticket?
10:23:05 woodbri: ditto
10:23:25 sdlime: jmkenna, sure now that it exists...
10:23:46 jmckenna: great thanks ( i'll add you all as cc )
13:12:26 CIA-6: dmorissette * r9574 /trunk/mapserver/ ( HISTORY.TXT mapserver.h ): Update for 5.6.0 release
13:13:55 CIA-6: dmorissette * r9575 /tags/rel-5-6-0/: Creating rel-5-6-0 release tag
13:14:19 CIA-6: dmorissette * r9576 /tags/rel-5-6-0/mapserver/: Tagging source as rel-5-6-0
13:14:37 CIA-6: dmorissette * r9577 /tags/rel-5-6-0/msautotest/: Tagging msautotest as rel-5-6-0
13:16:52 CIA-6: dmorissette * r9578 /branches/branch-5-6/: Creating branch-5-6 directory
13:17:08 CIA-6: dmorissette * r9579 /branches/branch-5-6/mapserver/: Branching source to branch-5-6
13:17:37 CIA-6: dmorissette * r9580 /branches/branch-5-6/msautotest/: Branching msautotest to branch-5-6
13:31:10 FrankW: yipee! I think this means I can start committing wild-assed new code.
13:33:36 CIA-6: warmerdam * r9581 /trunk/mapserver/mapogr.cpp: add support for label positioning with ogr autostyling
13:34:46 CIA-6: dmorissette * r9582 /trunk/mapserver/ ( HISTORY.TXT mapserver.h ): SVN trunk is now 5.7-dev
13:35:17 CIA-6: dmorissette * r9583 /branches/branch-5-6/mapserver/HISTORY.TXT: Re-add 'current version' header
16:14:21 nerdboy: FrankW: looks like there are only two species of wild ass left...
16:15:15 FrankW: nerdboy: dare I ask why you say that?
16:15:38 nerdboy: the last thing you said...
16:15:50 nerdboy: yipee! I think this means I can start committing wild-assed new code
16:16:02 FrankW: ah, of course!
16:16:05 nerdboy: just not genetic code
16:17:54 nerdboy: only one species of wild horse left...