| 03:22:32 | crschmidt: | oh man, automated translation |
| 03:22:34 | crschmidt: | "Jeff McKenna: Conference patsy of documentation charge" |
| 04:01:18 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1231]: test arnulf <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1231> |
| 04:01:28 | CIA-30: | osgeo: arnulf * r1231 /marketing/README: test arnulf |
| 04:22:43 | ominiverde2: | test yourself, good idea ;- ) |
| 05:21:29 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1232]: Update logos ( deleting old ones ) <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1232> |
| 05:22:03 | CIA-30: | osgeo: ticheler * r1232 /marketing/logo/ ( OSGeoLogoFIN3.pdf OSGeoLogoFIN3_Main.pdf OSGeo ): Update logos ( deleting old ones ) |
| 05:35:11 | seven: | ominiverdi2: How should I know that CIA picks on me |
| 05:35:18 | : | * seven just installed another SVN client... |
| 05:35:20 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1233]: Update logos ( deleting old ones ) <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1233> |
| 05:35:34 | CIA-30: | osgeo: ticheler * r1233 /marketing/logo/OSGEOlogo-eps.zip: Update logos ( deleting old ones ) |
| 05:35:38 | seven: | That was ticheler... |
| 05:35:49 | seven: | We are about to release the updated logos. Finally... |
| 05:36:02 | : | * crschmidt wonders what seven means by "CIA picks on me"... |
| 05:36:17 | ticheler: | OK, have to run and put Teun on a horse :- ) |
| 05:37:27 | seven: | crschmidt: Nothing, just my confused paranoid self. |
| 06:03:41 | ominiverdi2: | seven: when CIA.gov will really pick on you, you'll be aware quickly |
| 06:51:18 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1234]: adding presentation about OSGeo and OSGeo-es for Malaga and Agueda <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1234> |
| 06:51:48 | CIA-30: | osgeo: lbecchi * r1234 /community/presentations/ ( 200810-malaga-agueda 200810-malaga-agueda/OSGeo.html ): adding presentation about OSGeo and OSGeo-es for Malaga and Agueda |
| 07:15:08 | spacedman: | anyone know how many people attended foss4g this year? |
| 07:15:39 | crschmidt: | ~500 |
| 07:16:31 | spacedman: | down from last year? |
| 07:17:34 | crschmidt: | Yes; being in the Southern Hemisphere will do that : ) |
| 07:17:57 | spacedman: | still a lot of people thought. thx. |
| 07:18:08 | spacedman: | though |
| 07:27:11 | FrankW: | I understood the registration was 550 the week before which isn't far off Victoria. |
| 07:28:02 | crschmidt: | FrankW: Ah, your numbers are better than mine. |
| 07:28:27 | spacedman: | I can say 'regularly attracts over 500 delegates' and be safe. |
| 07:29:08 | FrankW: | spacedman: yes, that is a solid statement. |
| 07:29:59 | spacedman: | harder to quantify how good and useful the conference is though : ) |
| 07:40:17 | plasmab: | our company will continue to sponsor the OSGeo and the conference... |
| 07:40:43 | plasmab: | we derive value from it |
| 07:40:51 | plasmab: | although im not sure how we quantify that |
| 07:41:16 | plasmab: | i think more than anything it helps stop ESRI take over the world. |
| 07:42:44 | Schuyler: | what's wrong with ESRI? other than their UIs suck, their error messages suck, and they charge too much for their software |
| 07:43:12 | plasmab: | competition is good : ) |
| 07:43:26 | crschmidt: | their recent APIs are a lot better though |
| 07:43:42 | crschmidt: | Way easier to use than anything in the open source world for a lot of things |
| 07:43:59 | plasmab: | but according to my colleague you need to pay for an add on to be standards compliant... |
| 07:44:11 | FrankW: | crschmidt: Do you mean there rest interface? Or C++ level APIs? |
| 07:44:25 | crschmidt: | FrankW: The REST interfaces, yes |
| 07:44:31 | crschmidt: | C'mon, me know anything about C++? : ) |
| 07:44:42 | FrankW: | It seemed unlikely... |
| 07:45:06 | crschmidt: | plasmab: For the client, yes, you have to pay for the standards stuff. |
| 07:45:15 | crschmidt: | It's included on the server side now, though. |
| 07:45:40 | FrankW: | plasmab: you have me curious - who are you with? ( IRC nicks can be so opaque! ) |
| 07:45:49 | plasmab: | 1Spatial/Laserscan |
| 07:45:58 | FrankW: | Ah, cool |
| 07:46:10 | plasmab: | been working here since april |
| 07:46:38 | plasmab: | and not using GDAL/OGR for the first time in years... and hence not bugging you ; ) |
| 07:46:50 | FrankW: | I suspect I should have known that, with Chris Evans? |
| 07:47:01 | plasmab: | yeah he's my PM at the moment |
| 07:47:18 | plasmab: | although he breaks my code from time to time |
| 07:47:20 | FrankW: | As you can see, I just have a terrible memory, since I *did* know that. |
| 07:47:22 | FrankW: | :- ) |
| 07:47:25 | plasmab: | : ) |
| 07:47:35 | plasmab: | did you attend the conference? |
| 07:47:44 | FrankW: | yes |
| 07:48:14 | plasmab: | just wondering what you thought of my colleague Crispin's talk |
| 07:48:20 | plasmab: | ( if you went to it ) |
| 07:48:25 | plasmab: | it was at 8am apparently |
| 07:48:49 | FrankW: | I don't believe I did, though he and I sat in on the "Oracle BOF" together. |
| 07:48:59 | crschmidt: | FrankW at foss4g2008: http://flickr.com/photos/crschmidt/tags/foss4g2008,frankw |
| 07:49:01 | sigq: | Title: Flickr: Tagged with foss4g2008 and frankw ( at flickr.com ) |
| 07:49:03 | FrankW: | What did he speak on? As usual I missed lots of presentations I would like to have seen. |
| 07:50:24 | crschmidt: | ( And Crispin at FOSS4G: http://flickr.com/photos/crschmidt/2927036883/ ) |
| 07:50:25 | sigq: | Title: Crispin, OSGeo Sponsors on Flickr - Photo Sharing! ( at flickr.com ) |
| 07:50:32 | plasmab: | I think it was on the Autodesk connector technology. He has a plugin product for Autocad called MapRelate. I think it was on that |
| 07:50:47 | FrankW: | Ah, that would have been interesting. |
| 07:51:18 | plasmab: | indeed |
| 07:51:25 | crschmidt: | Crispin's talk: http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2008/paper/view/310 |
| 07:51:26 | sigq: | Title: Hoult ( at conference.osgeo.org ) |
| 07:51:38 | crschmidt: | Ah, it was a lab maybe? |
| 07:52:19 | crschmidt: | ah, no |
| 07:52:20 | plasmab: | perhaps.. i havent seen the talk. I just drank the wine he brought back |
| 07:52:32 | crschmidt: | I'm just forgetting that multiple talks got bunched together |
| 07:52:54 | plasmab: | I'm hoping to attend next time round |
| 07:53:21 | plasmab: | Do a talk on 3D GIS.. the area im currently researching |
| 07:54:53 | plasmab: | nice : ) |
| 07:55:37 | plasmab: | my next trip is to LSI in Washington early next year |
| 07:55:58 | plasmab: | working closely with 2 guys from their office. |
| 08:39:01 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Ticket #188 ( task closed ): Wiktionary software installation on "osgeo2" <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/188#comment:3> |
| 08:57:07 | darkblue_B: | does anyone know if the presentation material itself is showing up on FOSS4G2008 anywhere? |
| 08:58:25 | FrankW: | It is supposed to, but I haven't been watching for it. |
| 08:59:05 | : | * darkblue_B cant find it if its there |
| 11:05:47 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Ticket #188 ( task reopened ): Wiktionary software installation on "osgeo2" <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/188#comment:4> |
| 11:09:53 | darkblue_B: | is justin deoliveira on IRC ever? handle? |
| 11:10:23 | crschmidt: | jdeolive? |
| 11:10:40 | crschmidt: | i mean, that seems plausible, right? and that nick is in this channel... |
| 11:10:53 | darkblue_B: | y |
| 11:15:27 | darkblue_B: | email sent... |
| 11:36:02 | jdeolive: | darkblue_B: hi |
| 11:36:28 | darkblue_B: | jdeolive: hello |
| 11:36:36 | darkblue_B: | did you get the email I just sent? |
| 11:36:44 | jdeolive: | checking... |
| 11:36:46 | jdeolive: | yup |
| 11:36:49 | darkblue_B: | ok |
| 11:37:13 | darkblue_B: | well I have given a 20 minute talk on generating KML from PostGIS before |
| 11:37:23 | darkblue_B: | but it was using CLI and FeatureServer |
| 11:37:39 | darkblue_B: | so I am now attempting to expand it with GeoServer |
| 11:37:48 | jdeolive: | cool |
| 11:38:00 | darkblue_B: | which I admittedly have poked and now and then, but have also gotten stuck here and there too |
| 11:38:01 | jdeolive: | so are you looking for some slides only, or do you want to set up some demos as well? |
| 11:38:19 | darkblue_B: | hmm its a workshop, so I allegedly wll teach them something |
| 11:38:46 | darkblue_B: | I want to paint an overview, but should get into some hands on |
| 11:39:16 | darkblue_B: | they are probably not GIS specialists nor programmers.. |
| 11:39:19 | jdeolive: | darkblue_B: ok... i can make available the workshop docs we gave at foss4g |
| 11:39:24 | darkblue_B: | so this is experimental |
| 11:39:42 | jdeolive: | it walks through some of the basic things with geoserver, kml, and google earth |
| 11:39:51 | darkblue_B: | yes - excellent |
| 11:40:10 | jdeolive: | cool, i will reply to your email with some links to some material |
| 11:40:14 | darkblue_B: | I am doing my first kml_reflector now |
| 11:40:26 | darkblue_B: | ok, thanks very much |
| 11:40:38 | jdeolive: | darkblue_B: no problem |
| 12:17:21 | TylerM: | wildintellect: looks like we're good to go for the AAG booth |
| 12:17:35 | TylerM: | just awaiting the final confirmation, but have an informal note about it just a second ago. |
| 12:58:24 | jsanz_home: | hi TylerM |
| 12:58:30 | darkblue_B: | jdeolive: I am looking through the material.. but that link to a geoserver you sent me appears to be a Windows Installer? |
| 12:59:05 | jdeolive: | darkblue_B: yes, i take it you are not working on windows? |
| 12:59:13 | darkblue_B: | jdeolive: I have a gs 1.6.3 setup, but the Map Previews link fails for unknown reasons.. Java null ptr exception |
| 12:59:28 | darkblue_B: | I run Ubuntu Linux servers, and own a Mac laptop |
| 12:59:52 | jdeolive: | darkblue_B: any chance your server is visible? |
| 12:59:56 | jdeolive: | or is it on a local network? |
| 13:00:03 | TylerM: | hi jsanz_home |
| 13:00:09 | darkblue_B: | 24.7.79.159 jdeo |
| 13:00:37 | jsanz_home: | do you have an pudated freemind of osgeo? that one on svn for presentations |
| 13:00:41 | jsanz_home: | updated |
| 13:00:58 | jdeolive: | darkblue_B: thanks, i am getting the same errror... but its not all that verbose, is there any chance you can post the server log? |
| 13:00:59 | TylerM: | no, not updated recently |
| 13:01:16 | jsanz_home: | :S ok |
| 13:01:33 | TylerM: | i can take a look it today if you'd like me to run through it |
| 13:02:27 | TylerM: | we could walk through it together now too, if you want |
| 13:02:51 | jsanz_home: | ok, I don't want to bother you |
| 13:04:12 | TylerM: | jejeje |
| 13:59:00 | darkblue_B: | jdeolive: GeoServer doesnt seem to understand EPSG:102009 |
| 13:59:37 | darkblue_B: | ( I'm not that great with projections.. I know ths one works.. but dont know if there is an equiv or how to add a new SRS to GeoServer ) |
| 14:00:45 | : | * darkblue_B look for GeoServer setup lab notes... |
| 14:01:44 | darkblue_B: | hey! its from you |
| 14:01:51 | jdeolive: | darkblue_B: http://geoserver.org/display/GEOSDOC/Custom+projection+definition+in+Geoserver+1.5.0+%28onwards%29 |
| 14:01:53 | sigq: | Title: Custom projection definition in Geoserver 1.5.0 ( onwards ) - GeoServer ( at geoserver.org ) |
| 14:03:01 | jdeolive: | if you want to add a custom crs to geoserver |
| 14:03:01 | darkblue_B: | I must have been in your class, if you taught this at Where 2.0 |
| 14:03:01 | jdeolive: | darkblue_B: i did indeed : ) |
| 14:03:02 | darkblue_B: | there were alot ofpeople there that day, as I recall |
| 14:03:02 | darkblue_B: | ok, looking |
| 14:03:26 | simboss: | darkblue_B: that code is non standard |
| 14:03:26 | simboss: | actually |
| 14:03:41 | darkblue_B: | ohh - wht to use then? |
| 14:04:28 | simboss: | I guess this is what you want |
| 14:04:29 | simboss: | http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/102009/ |
| 14:04:31 | sigq: | Title: North_America_Lambert_Conformal_Conic: ESRI Projection -- Spatial Reference ( at spatialreference.org ) |
| 14:04:41 | darkblue_B: | yes - that one |
| 14:04:46 | simboss: | but anyway jdeolive is right, you might need to explicitly add it to geoserver |
| 14:05:01 | darkblue_B: | aha - ther is no equiv pre-loaded? |
| 14:05:14 | simboss: | nope |
| 14:05:22 | darkblue_B: | ok |
| 14:05:22 | simboss: | it is not so common afaik |
| 14:05:31 | simboss: | jdeolive: what do you think? |
| 14:05:56 | darkblue_B: | hmmm well the Berkeley UPenn Urban Data Modellers toolkit has quite a bit of SHP data, and it appears to be in that very projection |
| 14:06:00 | jdeolive: | simboss: not sure... i am not familiar with that projection... |
| 14:06:13 | jdeolive: | but yeah... either find one that is equivalent , or simply add it as custom |
| 14:06:14 | darkblue_B: | I used it in PostGIS with great success |
| 14:06:30 | darkblue_B: | ok, back to looking at the doc page |
| 14:06:46 | simboss: | why do you need this man? |
| 14:06:53 | simboss: | ( i forgot a comma ) |
| 14:06:54 | : | * crschmidt doesn't see anything that matches it in proj4 |
| 14:07:00 | darkblue_B: | thats my sample data |
| 14:07:01 | simboss: | why do you need this, man? |
| 14:07:04 | simboss: | cool |
| 14:07:25 | darkblue_B: | crschmidt: what to use then? |
| 14:08:28 | crschmidt: | darkblue_B: As jdeolive said, you'll have to add it as a custom projection. |
| 14:08:31 | darkblue_B: | http://dpaste.com/84950/ |
| 14:08:33 | sigq: | Title: dpaste: #84950 ( at dpaste.com ) |
| 14:08:39 | darkblue_B: | ok |
| 14:10:55 | : | * milovanderlinden hints that this projection may also be needed in the spatial_ref_sys table if postgis is used |
| 14:11:52 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1235]: updated slides and added new sponsors logos <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1235> |
| 14:12:15 | CIA-30: | osgeo: jsanz * r1235 /community/presentations/200810-malaga-agueda/ ( OSGeo/view_mindmap.html OSGeo.html ): updated slides and added new sponsors logos |
| 14:13:06 | darkblue_B: | milovanderlinden: yes thanks.. I dd that one a while ago.. thats what I use most often |
| 14:13:15 | darkblue_B: | GeoServer is new to me |
| 14:13:27 | darkblue_B: | that -> PostGIS |
| 14:13:37 | milovanderlinden: | Ok, good |
| 14:21:22 | darkblue_B: | "Workflow is submit then apply".. it seems to be submit, apply, save |
| 14:27:36 | CIA-30: | osgeo: jsanz * r1236 /community/presentations/200810-malaga-agueda/OSGeo/ ( 7 files ): added osgeo sponsors images |
| 14:28:14 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1236]: added osgeo sponsors images <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1236> |
| 14:36:07 | CIA-30: | osgeo: jsanz * r1237 /community/presentations/200810-malaga-agueda/OSGeo/ ( 18 files ): added mime types for images |
| 14:36:07 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1237]: added mime types for images <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1237> |
| 14:37:41 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1238]: added mime type for freemind html wrapper <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1238> |
| 14:38:09 | CIA-30: | osgeo: jsanz * r1238 /community/presentations/200810-malaga-agueda/OSGeo/view_mindmap.html: added mime type for freemind html wrapper |
| 14:48:57 | darkblue_B: | styling.. yup |
| 14:53:36 | darkblue_B: | oohhh geoserver |
| 16:54:42 | McDougall: | Hey, I'm looking for free GIS software that is comparable to ArcGIS just to play around with and learn. ( I have 0 experience with it ) I am on OSX... any suggestions? |
| 16:55:39 | TylerM: | hi McDougall - you're used to arcgis desktop |
| 16:55:40 | TylerM: | ? |
| 16:56:10 | McDougall: | No... my school uses ArcGIS and I wanted a program that is like it so I can learn GIS software |
| 16:57:11 | McDougall: | Self educational purposes : ) |
| 16:59:24 | jlivni: | i'd recommend qgis. others might suggest udig or jump or others |
| 17:00:08 | McDougall: | I've downloaded qgis and I'm trying to get grass working... but grass crashes every time I try and open it. |
| 17:03:39 | jlivni: | crschmidt: ill try get those vids on tomorrow. just got back - and i'm exceedingly tired right now. |
| 17:04:11 | crschmidt: | understood: no rush, just interested |
| 17:04:37 | crschmidt: | no one has ever gotten good video of my dancing before and shared it with me |
| 17:06:28 | jlivni: | i didn't say it was good |
| 17:07:05 | jlivni: | btw - awesome pics of kruger. i assume you're glad you went? |
| 17:07:25 | crschmidt: | i think the footage was good: i did glance at it. Whether the subject matter is good is obviously subject to debate |
| 17:07:29 | : | * jlivni stumbles off to meet wife |
| 17:07:46 | crschmidt: | totally, though my bank account isn't |
| 17:07:53 | crschmidt: | later |
| 17:25:20 | springmeyer: | welcome back jlivni |
| 19:55:53 | amdijefri: | hello, new here |
| 19:56:44 | TylerM: | hi amdijefri , welcome |
| 19:56:57 | amdijefri: | thanks |
| 19:58:34 | amdijefri: | coming to ya from 38.91799, -92.34745 |
| 20:00:19 | TylerM: | well, good morning then |
| 20:00:43 | TylerM: | i'm at 52N 121W |
| 20:00:51 | TylerM: | somewhere in there anyway ; ) |
| 20:03:46 | amdijefri: | well, we might get a frost tonight in the low-lying areas. imagine you're well past that |
| 20:05:25 | TylerM: | is that -92N or -92E? : ) |
| 20:05:34 | TylerM: | no, winter is kicking in here too |
| 20:07:07 | amdijefri: | 38N,92W |
| 20:07:32 | TylerM: | ah, we're almost neighbours ; ) |
| 20:07:59 | amdijefri: | dunno what my gps would say about 92, n or s : ) |
| 20:08:23 | TylerM: | heh |
| 20:09:28 | TylerM: | i think you fall off the earth : ) |
| 20:16:01 | amdijefri: | say, is this channel more active during the day? i'm hoping to find out if there are other geospatial software clearinghouses than osgeo.org and freegis.org |
| 20:17:11 | TylerM: | usually earlier in the day, yes |
| 20:17:26 | TylerM: | but just ask away, many people only check for updates every now and then. |
| 20:19:22 | amdijefri: | thanks, appreciate it. pleasure chatting with you, g'night |
| 22:37:19 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1239]: minor changes <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1239> |
| 22:37:41 | CIA-30: | osgeo: jsanz * r1239 /community/presentations/200810-malaga-agueda/OSGeo.html: minor changes |
| 23:26:40 | wildintellect: | TylerM, FYI deadline for AAG papers extended to Nov 13, I'm going to send a Call for Papers to most of the Osgeo project lists in the next few dats |
| 23:26:42 | wildintellect: | days |
| 23:38:07 | TylerM: | wildintellect: yeah i see, that's great |
| 23:52:02 | wildintellect: | we had a suspicion they would extend, since they always seem to but it's still nice to have another month to build up the speaker list |
| 23:54:06 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1240]: reverted mime type to html <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1240> |
| 23:54:29 | CIA-30: | osgeo: jsanz * r1240 /community/presentations/200810-malaga-agueda/OSGeo.html: reverted mime type to html |