#OSGEO IRC Log - 2008-11-06

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01:03:46 spacedman: when did osgeo get a new logo?
01:06:35 mlechner: yesterday - http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/marketing/2008-November/001988.html
01:06:36 sigq: Title: [Marketing] We now have an updated version of the OSGeo Logo ( at lists.osgeo.org )
01:09:15 spacedman: thx! I like it, it's more compact
03:00:39 sigq: osgeofeed: Ticket #309 ( task created ): Transfer DNS for geotools.org to OSGeo control <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/309>
05:43:34 darkblue_B: Schuyler: sounds like fun.. I am really keen on all things GEOSS.. any news or info you get please pass it on
05:44:03 darkblue_B: I put things like that into the ISDE5 Wiki.. http://isde5.pbwiki.com/2FrontPage
05:44:04 sigq: Title: isde5 wiki / 2FrontPage ( at isde5.pbwiki.com )
08:36:16 : * Threepwoo nass
13:32:03 rdewit: ping Schuyler about OSGeo presentatioin
19:15:28 wildintellect: @seen ajturner
19:15:28 sigq: wildintellect: ajturner was last seen in #osgeo 1 day, 8 hours, 22 minutes, and 1 second ago: <ajturner> darkblue_B: same set of fields
19:16:00 darkblue_B: hey wildintellect
19:16:26 wildintellect: I'm wondering if ajturner is hiding cause he promised an abstract to me tonight
19:16:43 darkblue_B: hmmm cant say ;- )
19:17:02 darkblue_B: though I wanted to tell you, re Northern Cal OSGeo
19:17:19 darkblue_B: I was at UC Berkeley campus today and made a few vsits
19:17:46 darkblue_B: the old GIS Center director, John Radke
19:18:08 darkblue_B: Museum of Vertebrate Zoology
19:18:13 darkblue_B: and the GIF Lab
19:18:21 wildintellect: ah, any interesting fallout
19:18:30 darkblue_B: all sounded positive about an OSGeo chapter
19:18:43 darkblue_B: there is a a big network of ex-students of course
19:18:56 wildintellect: I have an excuse for a meeting - ie something to work on
19:19:01 wildintellect: a good cause
19:19:04 darkblue_B: GIS Day on campus is the 19th
19:19:09 wildintellect: I'm aware
19:19:14 darkblue_B: oh - ok
19:19:15 wildintellect: It's GIS day internationally
19:19:24 darkblue_B: aha didnt know that
19:19:27 wildintellect: sponsored by Nat Geo, ESRI, Sun etc
19:19:44 wildintellect: http://www.gisday.com/
19:19:45 sigq: Title: GIS Day 2008 ( at www.gisday.com )
19:19:56 wildintellect: we need to get OSGeo more into the mix
19:20:24 darkblue_B: well I laid the gorundwork for flyers or something today
19:20:28 wildintellect: maybe Sun or Google will help us get our name on there without much $
19:20:30 darkblue_B: all I have to do is deliver something
19:20:38 darkblue_B: on the site?
19:20:39 darkblue_B: sure
19:21:14 wildintellect: we plan to give out some flyers this year
19:21:19 darkblue_B: well the thing is.. whats the offer?
19:21:28 darkblue_B: put you rname on a the email list?
19:21:38 darkblue_B: not sure about that
19:21:39 wildintellect: wanted to make a poster but don't have enough time
19:21:58 wildintellect: well I see GIS posters in random hidden corners
19:22:08 darkblue_B: I recall another group made a full on site with forum and news and all
19:22:15 darkblue_B: _no one_ showed up
19:22:21 darkblue_B: I mean really no one
19:22:31 wildintellect: at Davis there's usually some talks around lunch time
19:22:33 darkblue_B: I checked off and on for a couple of months
19:22:46 wildintellect: but no real effort
19:22:54 wildintellect: a few researcher trickle through
19:23:01 darkblue_B: so I figure, you take what is *missing* and offer that
19:23:09 wildintellect: I don't have time this year to make it bigger
19:23:13 darkblue_B: so, no extra emails, no work goals
19:23:16 darkblue_B: yeah
19:23:25 darkblue_B: I might do a poster - I like posters
19:23:40 wildintellect: plan next year, is OSM party, gps workshop, qgis workshop etc
19:24:16 wildintellect: poster - I was thinking timeline of FOSS GIS, with a map of developer contribs
19:24:36 wildintellect: data just doesn't exist in a format we can use yet
19:25:20 wildintellect: http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/marketing
19:25:21 sigq: Title: /marketing - OSGeo - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org )
19:25:36 wildintellect: start with what's there and add back anything you come up with
19:25:42 darkblue_B: hmm thats the other knd of poster :- )
19:26:04 darkblue_B: I like graphic design type things
19:26:16 darkblue_B: just the image.. some basic info
19:26:29 crschmidt: Jeff currently presenting his osgeo community talk in Osaka
19:26:56 darkblue_B: oh sounds good
19:27:08 darkblue_B: we were just talking about GIS day in N Cal
19:27:27 darkblue_B: crschmidt: still abroad ?
19:28:05 crschmidt: er... Osaka is abroad, yes...
19:28:18 : * crschmidt gets home Monday
19:57:31 wildintellect: whose monday
20:27:27 jlivni: i think im talking at gis day here in berkeley
20:30:30 jlivni: ooh, looks like it's a baama meeting too. finally i make one!
20:30:59 jlivni: automated mapping .. i wonder what it means
20:33:24 wildintellect: darkblue_B, got a couple of minutes to help me figure out what I should be doing ( best approach )
20:34:00 wildintellect: I have a GeoTiff in State Plane EPSG 2226
20:34:18 wildintellect: and I want to tile it and serve it in an OpenLayers app
20:35:18 wildintellect: 1. do I need WMS or can I just leave it as an image and use it directly - guess I'd need to make it a jpeg or png
20:35:58 wildintellect: I was hoping to start simple with gdal2tiles but I can't seem to get that script to work
20:38:09 wildintellect: hmm, I guess it's working on my fresh install
20:51:04 jlivni: wildintellect: you can use tilecache to read directly from the image if you want
20:51:19 jlivni: and certainly no need to make it a jpg or png if using anything gdal based
20:51:33 wildintellect: I say that it was an option to use ImageLayer but didn't see any hints on how
20:51:34 jlivni: but gdal2tiles would also work
20:51:57 wildintellect: I finally got gdal2tiles to run, but would like to move to tilecache in the long run
20:52:06 jlivni: is the fact its in epsg:2226 relevant to anything? i assume thats the projection you intend for your ol map as well?
20:52:07 wildintellect: as Mapserver and Geoserver are on the short list for next week
20:52:25 jlivni: i dont know what shortlist means .. you mean you dont want to use them?
20:52:29 wildintellect: well I might need to reproject
20:52:35 jlivni: because you dont need to with tilecache or gdal2tiles
20:52:48 wildintellect: I have bigger datasets to handle later
20:53:09 wildintellect: and it's my job to install and test all of them
20:53:17 wildintellect: literally I'm getting paid
20:53:17 jlivni: anyway imagelayer is indeed what you want. example should be in the tilecache docs
20:53:27 wildintellect: I'll keep poking
20:53:57 jlivni: nice. well - not sure how they'll play into this scenario exactly, but of course you can put mapserver as a wms inbetween the source image and tilecache if you want.
20:54:01 wildintellect: I would need to either reproject or use something with proj support if I need to toggle to google etc
20:54:11 jlivni: brb
20:54:25 jlivni: i would recommend reprojecting source image so you dont have to do it on the fly
20:54:36 jlivni: no matter what you end up using
20:54:46 wildintellect: agreed
20:55:13 wildintellect: we'll have to see if keeping 2 copies is too big a task
20:59:10 jlivni: well, less size than keeping lots of tiles : )
20:59:24 jlivni: ( making assumptions here about your source resolution, but still )
21:13:43 darkblue_B: hey wildintellect jlivni
21:13:56 darkblue_B: wildintellect: I really havent done much raster to date
21:14:02 darkblue_B: I've stayed in the vector realm
21:14:10 darkblue_B: though I hear the dscussions go by
21:14:27 darkblue_B: I like gdal2tiles a lot - makes a lot of sense
21:14:34 wildintellect: when it's working
21:14:42 darkblue_B: jlivni: they got you to speak at UCB in the 19th?
21:14:54 wildintellect: looks like it added a bunch of empty tiles, maybe the extent of the geotiff is off
21:15:07 wildintellect: can't get it to load the tiles either
21:15:20 darkblue_B: well the tiles are in a standard format
21:15:29 darkblue_B: you can load then with OpenLayers or GoogleMaps
21:18:26 wildintellect: ya the online examples of TMS all point to servers though and I can't see their config files to guess what I did wrong
21:34:52 wildintellect: why did firebug get rid of the simple on/off button
21:45:07 crschmidt: wildintellect: because it isn't a simple situation
21:48:25 crschmidt: wildintellect: Note that no OpenLayers application reads the config file
21:48:32 crschmidt: so 'waht you did wrong' is irrelevant
21:48:35 crschmidt: are you using gdal2tiles?
21:48:38 wildintellect: yes
21:48:50 crschmidt: doesn't it have an option to produce an OpenLayers Map for you?
21:48:54 wildintellect: yes
21:49:07 wildintellect: and I'm trying to debug why that isn't working
21:49:27 wildintellect: kinda hard when I had to turn firebug off cause I was in google mail earlier
21:50:00 : * crschmidt has never had gmail *force* him to turn off firebug..
21:50:32 wildintellect: it crawls if I don't
21:50:45 wildintellect: and they warn me every time it could cause problems
21:51:06 : * crschmidt shrugs.
23:00:43 Schuyler: ok, one more time: anybody have a good short slide deck on OSGeo
23:00:53 Schuyler: ?
23:03:08 jsanz: https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/community/presentations/20071109-Osaka/OSGeoCommunity.html ??
23:03:10 sigq: Title: OSGeo - Community Tools for a Creative City ( at svn.osgeo.org )
23:06:59 crschmidt: Schuyler: define 'short'?
23:20:15 Schuyler: lightning talk
23:20:30 crschmidt: haven't seen any
23:23:06 crschmidt: hey elemoine
23:23:09 crschmidt: is it morning again?
23:23:25 elemoine: yes it is
23:23:31 crschmidt: man, that keeps happening
23:23:48 elemoine: this is crazy man
23:23:49 wildintellect: it's not like you're known to sleep much
23:23:59 crschmidt: wildintellect: ell, it's only 5:30pm
23:24:10 crschmidt: so sleeping right now wouldn't make much sense
23:24:21 wildintellect: that's my favorite nap time
23:25:17 : * crschmidt is watching Japanese people talk about FOSS4G
23:25:36 elemoine: in Japanese?
23:25:47 crschmidt: Yep
23:25:58 crschmidt: Every now and then they point at me and laugh.
23:26:20 : <_wolf_> ouch
23:27:39 strk: lol
23:27:52 crschmidt: they also keep including pictures of Schuyler, and next to his name, where everyone else has a company name, they just put a "?"
23:28:36 crschmidt: Schuyler: entropy free needs some branding work : )
23:36:36 Schuyler: http://www.slideshare.net/xurxosanz/a-not-so-short-introduction-to-osgeo
23:36:38 sigq: Title: A not so short introduction to OSGeo - SlideShare ( at www.slideshare.net )
23:37:13 Schuyler: dude I'm sure they love you
23:37:24 jsanz: :- ) it's at osgeo svn let me see
23:37:55 jsanz: https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/community/presentations/20080505-Valencia-IGSM/osgeo.odp
23:38:22 jsanz: i didn't tell because it's not "short" at all :D
23:40:32 Schuyler: http://www.slideshare.net/oscon2007/os-racicot
23:40:33 sigq: Title: Os Racicot - SlideShare ( at www.slideshare.net )