#OSGEO IRC Log - 2008-11-14

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03:17:45 spacedman: Can you call ogr or gdal from Fortran? Has anyone done this?
07:32:15 seven: Board meeting in half an hour.
07:36:00 darkblue_B: hmm I missed the marketing mtg last night.. but all I wanted to say was.. I want to put up a poster at GIS Day next week at UC Berkeley.. should include the Cal mailing list address
07:36:25 darkblue_B: Cal => California OSGeo mailing list
07:36:57 darkblue_B: vector artwork for the new logo?
07:37:34 steko: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/logo/
07:37:35 sigq: Title: Revision 1283: /marketing/logo ( at svn.osgeo.org )
07:39:27 jmckenna: i'm also man-ing an OSGeo booth for GIS Day at Carleton University in Ottawa Canada next week
08:00:11 seven: Board meeting time
08:00:30 FrankW: yikes.... on in a sec...
08:01:18 seven: Can some one send me the passcode please.
08:01:35 seven: Tyler sent it to me but it seems to be wrong?!
08:01:50 markusN: to me too
08:01:53 markusN: passcode invalid
08:01:54 FrankW: I'm getting invalid on our usual code too.
08:01:57 ajolma: ..is invalid..
08:02:03 seven: Hmmm.
08:02:06 seven: Now what?
08:02:20 seven: TylerM said that he would probably not be able to make it.
08:02:27 FrankW: Oh dear.
08:02:37 seven: I am on Skype. Should we try that.
08:02:43 : * seven knows that it is no good for Frank
08:02:51 markusN: I just skipped "aperitivo" ...
08:03:42 seven: We can't do it here on IRC, can we?
08:03:47 seven: Because of voice, etc.
08:03:54 FrankW: It isn't a legally constituted meeting if we do it by IRC.
08:04:25 FrankW: We could still discuss the items, but not pass final motions.
08:04:57 : * seven adds an agenda item: Operate telephone conference facility operated by OSGeo...
08:05:37 seven: We have several Local Chapters who are already waiting since last week. :-(
08:06:11 mlechner: ..and who are watching you right now ;- )
08:06:15 seven: Anyone with a good idea?
08:06:49 ajolma: Why isn't skype good for Frank?
08:07:11 ajolma: would skype be a legal meeting?
08:07:17 seven: Too much lag.
08:07:31 seven: ajolma: Good question. :- )
08:07:37 ajolma: in Frank? nooo
08:07:50 seven: I guess it passes as voice communication alright
08:08:18 seven: Lets sort out who is here first.
08:08:22 FrankW: If we have quorum without me, I can just follow in IRC.
08:08:27 seven: Arnulf, FrankW, Ari, Markus
08:08:36 seven: Thats all so far. No quorum.
08:09:02 : * seven writes an email to Paul and Hobu
08:09:12 ajolma: I'm installing skype
08:09:14 FrankW: .. and bob ...
08:10:02 seven: Yes.
08:10:18 seven: Please could you all hold on for 15 minutes?
08:10:32 FrankW: I see I have skype, so I can connect - I'll just have somewhat poor ability to communicate.
08:10:34 seven: We will try again at xx:30 if that is fine.
08:10:46 ajolma: ok
08:10:51 FrankW: ok
08:11:44 markusN: ok
08:12:53 seven: How do we join in a group with Skype? Anybody with experience?
08:12:59 markusN: I have
08:13:08 markusN: one just invites the others
08:13:14 seven: I gues someone mut invite us. My ID is arnulf_christl
08:13:34 ominoverde: seven: do a first call and then drag people in
08:14:35 ajolma: my id is ari_jolma but I need a mike : )
08:15:28 seven: You have 13 minutes. :- )
08:16:00 seven: markusN: I sent an email to Bob, Paul, Howard and the board list with the ids I have so far.
08:17:57 seven: FrankW you do sound muffled. :- )
08:18:24 FrankW: :- )
08:18:37 FrankW: I will lose my normal fast talking advantage. :- )
08:18:51 seven: I guess Jo is Skype resitant...
08:19:21 markusN: currently Arnulf, Frank, Ari and me are in the cal
08:21:42 seven: Can someone call Paul or Howard using land line telphone?
08:21:46 : * seven does not have a number
08:21:56 FrankW: I'll try Paul.
08:23:57 FrankW: no answer from paul
08:24:41 seven: I can hear Markus
08:24:46 seven: but he cannot her me.
08:24:48 seven: Cool.
08:24:53 seven: Technology is great!
08:25:13 seven: Ah but we just talked
08:25:13 FrankW: I have no contact info for howard.
08:25:34 : * jmckenna sometimes u get what u pay for : )
08:25:40 seven: You never hear me here?
08:25:44 seven: Ah, OK
08:26:02 seven: Thats why they ignored me on the OGC meeting yesterday...
08:26:03 ajolma: I can't hear you.
08:26:15 markusN: try the test call
08:26:25 seven: But it work the day before.
08:27:54 markusN: there are also the solutions where the system calls you on land line
08:30:33 seven: There is Paul.
08:32:16 markusN: anybody speaking in the call? silence....
08:32:17 seven: Markus, can you please invite Paul.
08:32:23 seven: I am about to get online now.
08:32:33 markusN: Paul needs to accept me first
08:32:55 markusN: ok
08:33:07 markusN: works with Paul
08:33:26 seven: markusN:
08:33:40 seven: Can you invite me again. I switched boxes.
08:33:45 markusN: done
08:34:09 markusN: yes
08:34:16 markusN: we can here you
08:34:16 FrankW: yippee!
08:34:21 markusN: sure!!
08:34:45 markusN: seven: loudspeaker up?
08:34:46 FrankW: yes, it does sound pretty bad.
08:36:31 markusN: I am willing to pay for a land line conf, using www.jajah.com
08:36:39 markusN: this sucks what we try right now
08:38:03 seven: I have not the $%/& idea what is wrong. It worked for the past year every day.
08:38:15 seven: Can we use the land line using jajah.com?
08:38:26 seven: We have quorum.
08:38:30 markusN: gimme you land line numbers, in privat chat as you like
08:38:35 seven: Lets not waste the chance.
08:38:40 markusN: I have just inserted €€ into the system
08:38:52 FrankW: I would suggest we proceed to pass motions on the fairly straight forward stuff.
08:38:55 FrankW: And perhaps have some discussion afterward in IRC.
08:38:55 FrankW: Rather than moving to a new venue.
08:39:19 seven: FrankW: Good idea.
08:39:33 seven: Please read the three Local Chapter applications as per agenda.
08:39:55 seven: From my pov they are alright and we could just move, second and vote on them
08:40:21 FrankW: I think we should select a secretary and pass the last minutes first.
08:40:34 seven: Good.
08:40:36 FrankW: I would be willing to secratary, lacking Tyler.
08:41:59 seven: Excellent, thank you.
08:42:25 FrankW: seven: Can you rejoin the conf. call? Hopefully you are audible enough to vote on motions.
08:42:36 markusN: added
08:42:58 pramsey: we can hear you
08:43:02 seven: Agenda: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2008-11-07
08:43:04 sigq: Title: Board Meeting 2008-11-14 - OSGeo Wiki ( at wiki.osgeo.org )
08:43:20 pramsey: Paul present
08:43:25 seven: Arnulf persent
08:43:25 : * FrankW is here.
08:43:27 markusN: Markus present
08:43:27 ajolma: Ari present
08:43:35 pramsey: yay
08:44:01 pramsey: move approval
08:44:05 pramsey: none
08:46:17 pramsey: +1 paul
08:46:38 seven: FOSSGIS e.V. accepted as Local Chapter.
08:46:46 markusN: congrats
08:47:32 markusN: List here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:Local_Chapters
08:47:33 sigq: Title: Category:Local Chapters - OSGeo Wiki ( at wiki.osgeo.org )
08:48:29 markusN: Official list: http://www.osgeo.org/content/chapters/index.html
08:48:31 sigq: Title: OSGeo Local Chapters | OSGeo.org ( at www.osgeo.org )
08:48:58 seven: Application of the Comite direction chapitre quebecois accepted!
08:49:00 seven: Hooray.
08:49:14 pramsey: ajolma, on the line?
08:49:19 FrankW: ari --- call out for us!
08:51:24 seven: Application for the Spanish Language Local Chapter - accepted. Thanks!
08:51:29 ominoverde: :-O
08:51:33 jsanz: :D
08:51:42 markusN: congrats!
08:51:46 ominoverde: que viva!
08:52:14 ominoverde: thx markusN
08:52:26 markusN: great efforts, guys!
08:52:48 seven: 3rd quarter balance sheet approved.
08:52:50 ominoverde: yours seems bigger with all this international calls!
08:53:00 jsanz: gracias markusN!
08:55:33 FrankW: doh ... I seem to have been dropped.
08:56:15 markusN: back in
08:56:32 darkblue_B: sub-chapters list updated? maybe that would be a good thing ofr a poster
08:56:58 darkblue_B: land - language - layers... OSGeo!
08:58:43 seven: Last agenda topic: OSGeo email accounts
08:59:51 : * ominoverde wants an email account too!
09:06:08 markusN: FrankW, seven, ajolma: are you available for a quick test of the landline system?
09:06:18 seven: Done.
09:06:18 seven: Sure.
09:06:21 ajolma: I'm
09:06:29 FrankW: I'm available, yes.
09:06:55 markusN: ok, calling
09:06:55 FrankW: I must say, skype worked better for me than it used to before I realligned my sat. dish. But still very laggy and drop out from time to time.
09:07:33 markusN: your phones should call now
09:08:30 seven: Wroks.
09:08:36 seven: Works.
09:08:43 markusN: yep
09:09:07 seven: Cool, we now even have a fallback system.
09:09:14 markusN: I just lack a few landline numbers yet - ok as backup for the next time
09:09:50 markusN: ok, thanks bye
09:09:59 : * seven guesses that markusN will add it to: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Call
09:10:00 sigq: Title: Conference Call - OSGeo Wiki ( at wiki.osgeo.org )
09:11:07 seven: FrankW: Can you pls add the minutes soon so that we can spread the good news?
09:11:34 seven: ominoverde: OSGeo officers, chairs and VIPs can get an OSGeo email reflector.
09:12:03 : * ominoverde asking himself about who he is...
09:12:06 seven: Add a ticket with SAC. As new Local Chapter Gonzo you are enough of a VIP I'd say.
09:12:13 seven: :- )
09:12:19 : * FrankW concurs.
09:12:32 ominoverde: good idea, it seems easy to set up an official local chapter
09:12:37 ominoverde: ;- )
09:12:42 seven: Thats the idea.
09:12:48 seven: Why make it difficult.
09:13:04 ominoverde: makes sense
09:14:12 : * seven wonders what is an acceptable IRC lag. She is having a bottelneck in the network and can't find it.
09:14:14 ominoverde: seven: setting up three local chapters is enough as as vip? maybe only Venka could beat me
09:14:21 seven: Hehe.
09:14:23 : * jsanz going for an email also... ( but not sure if it's a VIP apart for my mother )
09:14:39 ominoverde: hehehe
09:14:43 seven: jsanz: go for it.
09:14:59 FrankW: You guys can just give me the details of the userid/alias you would like @osgeo here rather than file tickets if you like.
09:15:13 seven: I guess as Marketing member you should be able to communicate using an official osgeo email.
09:16:00 ominoverde: FrankW: thx, we'll send a joint mail with jsanz
09:16:45 FrankW: ok, that works too.
09:18:09 FrankW: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2008-11-14#Minutes added...
09:18:11 sigq: Title: Board Meeting 2008-11-14 - OSGeo Wiki ( at wiki.osgeo.org )
09:23:48 seven: He - this time at least had the time to ask for the minutes. :- )
09:36:14 wildintellect: anyone on speak italian, someone asked a question over in qgis and I tried to answer but I'm not sure if I did it right
09:37:28 doktoreas: wildintellect, I am Italian..can I help?
09:39:53 seven: crschmidt: Watch this, this is cool. wildintellect can't answer in Italian and calls for doktoreas to hop on #qgis. This works just fine.
09:40:36 crschmidt: seven: And what happens when the person who emailed the qgis list *doesn't* email, because they felt uncomfortable asking?
09:40:44 doktoreas: : )
09:41:45 crschmidt: I'm not completely unaware of the possible social solutions once you can get someone to cross the social hurdle of sending the first email -- but what I heard on this trip is that there are dozens of people who are using OpenLayers in their daily work, and unwilling to send an email to the list
09:42:04 crschmidt: To those people, it is important ( in my opinion ) to help them find a community who can encourage them
09:42:15 seven: Yes. Good.
09:42:36 : * jsanz crschmidt, +1
09:42:48 : * seven is not trying to argument your point away, instead I am highly interested in supporting whatever helps to bridge the language gap.
09:46:48 darkblue_B: looking at the Logo guidelines
09:47:08 darkblue_B: Is the tag line still preferred?? 'Your Open Source Compass'
09:47:31 crschmidt: darkblue_B: it's built into the logo, right?
09:47:35 darkblue_B: no
09:47:48 darkblue_B: I just got a current logo from svn
09:47:52 crschmidt: it's built into the logo on http://www.osgeo.org/logos/ ...
09:47:54 sigq: Title: OSGeo Logo: Usage, History, and Downloads | OSGeo.org ( at www.osgeo.org )
09:47:55 darkblue_B: its says 'Project'
09:48:05 crschmidt: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/logo/png24/osgeo.png
09:48:47 darkblue_B: steko: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/logo/
09:48:48 sigq: Title: Revision 1283: /marketing/logo ( at svn.osgeo.org )
09:49:08 darkblue_B: ok, I can lve with a little chaos ;- )
09:49:23 darkblue_B: so the answer is... yes, thats the preferred line then
09:49:37 crschmidt: I don't know which file you're looking at: Generally, the ones that say "Project" say that because they're to be used by projects
09:49:45 crschmidt: if you're looking at a vector file, maybe there are more layers you're missing
09:50:07 darkblue_B: sure.. I am guessng that all the copies of things just arent upated
09:50:11 darkblue_B: not a problem
09:51:10 crschmidt: darkblue_B: Which file are you looking at?
09:51:17 darkblue_B: teko: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/logo/
09:51:18 sigq: Title: Revision 1283: /marketing/logo ( at svn.osgeo.org )
09:51:19 crschmidt: srry, my questin was too implicit : )
09:51:21 crschmidt: that's a folder
09:51:23 crschmidt: not a file
09:51:27 darkblue_B: oh
09:51:29 crschmidt: there are many files in that folder, including the one I pointed to : )
09:51:40 darkblue_B: right- ok
09:51:45 darkblue_B: I got the .ai file
09:51:55 darkblue_B: cause I am doing high res output
09:52:07 crschmidt: and does it have more than one layer?
09:52:14 crschmidt: I'd expect that there are probably layers for the various taglines
09:52:17 crschmidt: that you can turn on and off
09:52:20 darkblue_B: nope
09:52:26 darkblue_B: ohhh- it said
09:52:33 crschmidt: what tool are you using to open it?
09:52:38 darkblue_B: .. this file made with a later version of Illustrator
09:52:46 darkblue_B: I have cs - eg 10
09:52:51 darkblue_B: that might be it
09:52:52 crschmidt: Hm. *shrug* I could just be wrong, too : )
09:52:54 darkblue_B: ok, I see
09:53:08 darkblue_B: yeah - ok honest mstake
09:53:18 darkblue_B: yes, could have more layers then
09:53:35 crschmidt: anyway, to answer your question, "yes, that's still preferred"
09:53:42 crschmidt: the "project" logo is definitely targeted for things like OpenLayers
09:53:46 crschmidt: not for the foundation as a whole
09:53:56 darkblue_B: ok, actually I have Illustrator 11.. but yes, thx, thats helpful
09:54:30 darkblue_B: I see, well I am going to try my hand at a poster.. I'll run t by the channel in a while
10:01:19 crschmidt: jmckenna: did you see http://www.flickr.com/photos/crschmidt/3026547655/ ?
10:01:20 sigq: Title: Jeff, FOSS4G 2008, Osaka on Flickr - Photo Sharing! ( at www.flickr.com )
10:03:59 jmckenna: doh i did. i had also linked that tag from my website...so i hope clients don't notice that pic! hahahahaahahahahahahaha
10:04:39 crschmidt: jmckenna: I don't see that as much more embarrasing that several of the other pictures attached to that tag : )
10:04:45 TylerM: better than all those ones i found of you on facebook! :O
10:04:53 TylerM: heh
10:04:58 jmckenna: : )
10:05:06 jmckenna: funny
10:05:50 : * crschmidt still has one more day of photos to go through
10:06:36 : * jmckenna awaits the photos hehe
10:07:14 TylerM: how long idd you guys stay? get to see many sights?
10:07:18 TylerM: or just the subway? ;- )
10:08:45 crschmidt: lots of subway : )
10:09:02 crschmidt: we did tokyo, then had 3 days in the middle of sightseeing stuff, then osaka, then ne day at the end
10:09:31 crschmidt: http://flickr.com/photos/crschmidt/sets/72157608994444802/ is foss4g osaka , http://flickr.com/photos/crschmidt/sets/72157608597175464/ is foss4g tokyo
10:09:32 sigq: Title: FOSS4G Osaka, 2008 - a set on Flickr ( at flickr.com )
10:09:34 jmckenna: 10 trains a day average
10:09:37 jmckenna: : )
10:09:41 crschmidt: yeah, that's about right
10:10:39 : * seven cannot believe that the logos are already a mess again.
10:10:58 seven: THere is versions where the layers are set to "hide" but in some software they still show.
10:11:08 seven: EPS in GIMP
10:11:17 : * seven will try to fix this over the weekend.
10:11:29 seven: I suggest we remove all vector files except SVG.
10:11:47 seven: Any objections to unanimous consent?
10:11:51 crschmidt: Um
10:12:01 seven: Was that an objection?
10:12:05 seven: :- )
10:12:11 : * crschmidt shrugs. I'm not a publisher person, but is that really going to work for everyone who is using the logos?
10:12:20 crschmidt: I would assume that things like InDesign make working with SVG harder than it should be
10:12:29 crschmidt: but can load EPS/AI relatively easily...
10:12:35 seven: I don't know. Do we *need* anything but SVG?
10:12:55 seven: Problem is that ai and whatnot else seem to always deliver inconsistent results.
10:13:03 crschmidt: Well, what do we use the logo with?
10:13:10 seven: Huh?
10:13:28 crschmidt: The reason to have a vector image is to use the logo for non-web materials, I'd assume
10:13:36 crschmidt: so what do we create the nn-web materials with -- what tool?
10:13:39 seven: Imean the logo is pretty simple and striaght forward. And SVG has all you need.
10:13:47 TylerM: seven: fyi - I'm talking to the conference call guys.. the service had an end date to the subscription..
10:13:54 TylerM: I'm looking at how to renew it and will get costs.
10:13:56 crschmidt: SVG doesn't have all you need if the tool you're using doesn't support SVG.
10:13:59 seven: It seems like everybody uses different stuff.
10:14:09 seven: That is the problem.
10:14:24 crschmidt: Right, so we should ask what people are using, and whether it supports SVG.
10:14:32 TylerM: It's all this trouble with proprietary colour formats..
10:14:42 seven: Not only that.
10:14:45 TylerM: often printer shops want to know our pantone numbers, etc.
10:14:59 TylerM: or they have to be embedded.. not sure if svg handles that.
10:15:07 crschmidt: Probably not.
10:15:11 seven: Now the logo shows up with all the tag lines on top of each other because some packages do not recognize when a layer is turned hidden.
10:15:45 seven: Well, qwe can send the pantone colors alongside.
10:15:46 crschmidt: seven: It seems to me that in order to say "We should just use SVG" we'd have to first start *having* SVG, which I don't see currently.
10:16:20 seven: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/logo/svg/
10:16:21 sigq: Title: Revision 1283: /marketing/logo/svg ( at svn.osgeo.org )
10:16:30 crschmidt: Okay, I'm blind.
10:16:38 : * crschmidt kicks himself
10:16:44 ominoverde: seven: had not the time to read all backlog, but: "I suggest we remove all vector files except SVG." this is not a good idea
10:16:58 ominoverde: many printer just understand AI o few more...
10:17:00 seven: Hehe. There we go.
10:17:02 ominoverde: printers..
10:17:12 : * seven gives up.
10:17:19 ominoverde: sorry :- )
10:17:39 : * seven already snores
10:17:40 crschmidt: Probably makes sense to 'hide' the .ai by putting it in a subdir, and adding a readme that says "Use the SVG first! IT's better!"
10:17:55 seven: Yes, that was my plan.
10:18:03 ominoverde: crschmidt: +1
10:18:15 ominoverde: weird but should work
10:18:23 seven: Good. We'll try this and then wait and see what happens.
10:18:54 seven: Btw. - if you happen to come accross old version anywhere please drop them a note or if you don't want to bother tell me about it.
10:19:02 TylerM: was someone actually using the .ai files!?
10:19:08 crschmidt: TylerM: yes
10:19:21 crschmidt: TylerM: darkblue_B was just using them, presumably because they were the most obvious ones from http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/logo/
10:19:22 sigq: Title: Revision 1283: /marketing/logo ( at svn.osgeo.org )
10:19:25 crschmidt: since they're in the directory, and the SVG is not.
10:19:43 TylerM: oh, that folder needs cleanup
10:19:46 TylerM: obviously : )
10:19:50 darkblue_B: hey TylerM - how are you feeling?
10:20:04 TylerM: hi darkblue_B - well rested now.. sick family though :S
10:20:10 ominoverde: seven: something like this linked form the home page? http://www.cafepress.com/osgeo
10:20:11 sigq: Title: The OSGeo Store : CafePress.com ( at www.cafepress.com )
10:20:18 darkblue_B: ok - so I grabbed the frst file I saw
10:20:28 darkblue_B: I use Illustrator from waay back
10:20:28 TylerM: the .ai file is super old anyway
10:20:35 TylerM: we don't have them for new one, as far as i know
10:20:44 darkblue_B: ok - what to use then?
10:20:58 TylerM: heh.. svg?
10:20:58 TylerM: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/logo/svg/
10:20:59 sigq: Title: Revision 1283: /marketing/logo/svg ( at svn.osgeo.org )
10:21:28 TylerM: hmm we should have eps and pdf in there somewhere... maybe i have them and didn't commit them yet
10:21:36 darkblue_B: ai is pdf
10:21:37 sigq: osgeofeed: Ticket #313 ( task created ): Create discuss list for new Quebec Local Chapter <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/313>
10:21:53 TylerM: really? good to know : )
10:22:05 darkblue_B: ai adds some extra goodies for editing purposes
10:22:13 TylerM: seven: did you remove a bunch of files from that repository? seems like only a few exist there
10:22:38 darkblue_B: ai used to be different, they went to pdf about 5 years ago or so
10:23:06 TylerM: I don't think SVG will serve all purposes anyway.. I can see the conference organising committee going crosseyed when we send ours in svg ;- )
10:23:20 TylerM: darkblue_B: funny.. if only we'd known :D
10:23:25 darkblue_B: I need somethng that will print
10:23:37 darkblue_B: I can use fireworks instead of illustrator
10:23:39 TylerM: i usually point people to the pdf or eps
10:23:48 crschmidt: darkblue_B: well, you're making a poster, right?
10:23:52 TylerM: but i'm confused where they went..
10:24:04 darkblue_B: crschmidt: yep, I want to..
10:24:14 darkblue_B: havent started.. need to the good file
10:24:18 crschmidt: darkblue_B: You don't need something that will print directly, just something you can import into your poster-building file
10:24:19 wildintellect: darkblue_B, I've moved to inkscape and scribus for vector and layout
10:24:30 wildintellect: the svg files work well for those
10:25:04 darkblue_B: hmmm well people I know use InDesign for most all print now
10:25:22 TylerM: yeah, too bad it's so expensive :(
10:25:24 wildintellect: basically either of those will output a pdf and you print the pdf
10:25:31 darkblue_B: I am a little out of the loop.. a foot *out* of all worlds I guess ;- )
10:26:19 darkblue_B: TylerM: I am just reading the headlines here in the SF Bay aout the Sun layoffs.. and general comments from people, many of whom do not get OSS
10:26:43 wildintellect: darkblue_B, take a look at http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/marketing/cards
10:26:44 sigq: Title: /marketing/cards - OSGeo - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org )
10:26:50 darkblue_B: the issue of monitization deserves further insight
10:27:48 darkblue_B: wildintellect: you've been busy!
10:29:05 wildintellect: the svg files are inkscape and the sla files are scribus
10:29:40 darkblue_B: oops! OSGeo_Business_Card_wTag.pdf doesnt show up in OSX Preview!
10:29:47 darkblue_B: thats not good
10:29:49 wildintellect: they were started by importing the svg version of the logo
10:29:51 wildintellect: hmm
10:30:10 crschmidt: does for me...
10:30:21 crschmidt: darkblue_B: you clicked through the HTML preview and clicked download, right?
10:30:33 crschmidt: you didn't just 'download link as' from the directory listing?
10:30:56 darkblue_B: thx guys : ) I *dd* get the pdf file
10:31:18 crschmidt: well, http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/marketing/cards/OSGeo_Business_Card_wTag.pdf?format=raw works for me in Preview.app
10:31:54 darkblue_B: hmm
10:33:00 crschmidt: what version of OS X?
10:33:05 darkblue_B: 10.4
10:33:11 crschmidt: I'm on 10.5.4
10:33:19 crschmidt: may be something they've already fixed
10:33:20 darkblue_B: thats a fair question.. maybe its that
10:33:26 crschmidt: if it wasn't proprietary software, we could check
10:33:29 wildintellect: maybe i picked to new a pdf version
10:33:32 crschmidt: this is what you get for not going open source!
10:33:41 darkblue_B: well I have some pdf toolks actully
10:33:50 darkblue_B: but perhaps not tme for that
10:34:24 wildintellect: it should be 1.4 but might be 1.5, can't remember what I clicked in the export
10:34:44 darkblue_B: ok.. well at any rate
10:35:04 crschmidt: darkblue_B: anyway, I'd expect most tools can load an SVG these days
10:35:17 darkblue_B: SVG has a stormy past
10:35:26 TylerM: darkblue_B: preview doesn't show on my 10.4 mac either
10:35:30 TylerM: for that last url
10:35:49 : * darkblue_B vindicated
10:36:05 TylerM: i'm pretty it did work at one point.. maybe a diff file
10:36:22 : * crschmidt repeats his assertion that this is just another reason not to use proprietary software like os x
10:36:46 TylerM: if only...
10:39:31 wildintellect: what about http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/marketing/cards/OSGeo_Projects_Card_2sided_10up_a4.pdf?format=raw
10:39:56 : * cpm finds preview to be petty well behaved, , , usually. Seems like you need a plethora of pdf/ps viewers to really be covered.
10:41:24 cpm: Is there supposed to a url on that card?
10:41:27 darkblue_B: wildintellect: looks ok to me.. it draws something :- )
10:41:57 darkblue_B: wildintellect: hmm, but thats not the 3/4s cirlce, is it?
10:42:04 cpm: looks good on the 2-sided one
10:48:18 wildintellect: darkblue_B, if you look in the commit log changing the logo is on the todo list
10:48:32 TylerM: lots to fix .. all around : )
11:01:37 wildintellect: maybe I'll update some when I'm on vacation next week
11:02:41 wildintellect: cpm, even on linux I have 3+pdf viewers not including apps that can import pdfs
11:08:48 cpm: wildintellect, Oh, I understand. I use all kinds of ps rendering stuff.
11:09:23 spatialguru: any tried pdf import on OOo v3?
11:12:23 TylerM: i'm working on apresentation template.. anyone know how to see if my fonts are going to be publicly available to other users?
11:13:57 markusN: TylerM: just give it to a purist Linux user
11:27:51 : * hobu is glad a quorum was met
11:28:59 wildintellect: TylerM, what fonts did you use
11:29:36 TylerM: none yet : )
11:32:03 wildintellect: 1 painful way is to check on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_typefaces#Unicode_fonts
11:32:04 sigq: Title: List of typefaces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ( at en.wikipedia.org )
11:32:23 wildintellect: at the specific ones...
11:55:32 TylerM: man presentation software is a drag
14:02:35 crschmidt: "You may not produce modified versions of the logos. OSGeo provides a full set of logo variations and a branding manual describing their usage [link forthcoming]; if you believe your needs go beyond those offerings, please contact us." -- http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/legal/trademark_guidelines.html
14:02:37 sigq: Title: Trademark Guidelines | OSGeo.org ( at www.osgeo.org )
14:02:40 crschmidt: could probably fill in that link these days
23:01:54 darkblue_B: ok, well I have a kind of a poster..
23:02:09 darkblue_B: I have to say that OSS font is pretty .. uh, well, not pretty
23:02:39 darkblue_B: though the word OSGeo itself looks ok
23:07:05 darkblue_B: try http://24.7.79.159/osgeo/
23:07:06 sigq: Title: Index of /osgeo ( at 24.7.79.159 )
23:07:43 : * crschmidt yawns