#OSGEO IRC Log - 2008-11-20

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01:57:22 sigq: osgeofeed: Ticket #316 ( task created ): ka-Map2 needs a home <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/316>
05:44:57 ajturner: what is the appropriate tool to take a KML file and some base data and create a map for printing or editing in illustrator
05:44:58 ajturner: ?
07:37:52 FrankW: hobu: any thoughts on #316 - hosting for kamap2?
07:39:34 FrankW: ominoverde: normally there would need to be a primary administrator from SAC volunteer to do the grunt work for a "non-OSGeo project" hosting request such as yours. Then there would be a motion to SAC and passive vetting by the board.
07:40:22 FrankW: I'm a bit leery about the proliferation of SVN/Trac instances that SAC is responsible for taking care of.
07:40:40 crschmidt: I'm somewhat concerned about having us continue to give project hosting t anyone who asks; a couple different people in Japan said "What do I get from OSGeo?" and my "shared infrastructure" claim was met with scoffs due to people saying that anyone who wants SVN/Trac can get it.
07:41:37 FrankW: crschmidt: Was the question "What does my project get out of becoming an official ( incubated ) OSGeo project?"
07:41:58 crschmidt: Of going through the incubation process, yeah.
07:42:16 ominoverde: hi guys
07:42:19 FrankW: If so, certainly infrastructure is a relatively weak reason to go through the process since you may not need to for getting hosting, and because comparible services are available from elsewhere ( ie. sourceforge ).
07:42:53 ominoverde: Frankw: I see the problem don't worry. I was just wandering what was teh difference between this kind of project and other that are not under incubation
07:43:35 crschmidt: ominoverde: I think the question is just "Does a SAC member want to take on the responsibility" -- other projects have gotten a SAC member to take on the role
07:43:51 FrankW: I will say that most other projects that were provided with svn/trac hosting were expected to eventually go through incubation.
07:44:00 FrankW: ( eg. metacrs, geos )
07:44:28 ominoverde: crschmidt: I know, I didn't ask before, I'll wait for the sentence.
07:44:41 ominoverde: it would not be the first time that ka-map goes in silence
07:44:52 FrankW: The sentance? What do you mean?
07:45:11 : * ominoverde looking at the dictionary
07:45:53 strk: the "official response" : )
07:46:15 ominoverde: yep, in english sound a little heavier
07:46:24 strk: "sentenza" is the final word of a jugde at the end of a proceedment
07:46:27 FrankW: Generally speaking it takes a motion to get an official response.
07:46:40 FrankW: And you aren't really supposed to make the motion till you have a SAC volunteer to do the work.
07:46:56 FrankW: I'm personally hesitating to volunteer.
07:47:05 ominoverde: right, I was wandering if some SAC guy would be interested in getting the charge
07:47:10 FrankW: ( despite warm feelings for ominoverde and kamap )
07:47:20 ominoverde: don't worry FrankW, I'm expecting nothing especial
07:47:29 FrankW: ok, so really you are waiting for a volunteer.
07:47:37 ominoverde: exactly
07:47:47 ominoverde: but it can come or not
07:48:45 ominoverde: I mean, I didn't know if it was an easy thing or not. apparently is much more complicated of what I was imaging
07:48:49 FrankW: ok
07:49:20 ominoverde: I can ask sourceforge even if I don't love it
07:49:37 TylerM: ominoverde: you beat pywps to ask the question ;- )
07:50:11 ominoverde: TylerM: hehe
07:50:28 ominoverde: I'll ask again for pywps if it is possible
07:50:41 ominoverde: in this days I'm coding on ka-map then I asked first ;- )
07:51:40 TylerM: sounds like intevation has a valuable service for smaller projects.. hopefully they can continue to accomodate them - it's a valuable service it seems
07:52:12 ominoverde: strk, suggested savannah too
07:53:00 ominoverde: crschmidt: we can make ka-map as a OL add-in ;- )
07:54:44 TylerM: or for mapserver?
07:54:47 TylerM: : )
07:55:06 FrankW: I was wondering if it might make sense for the OL trac+svn to host some sorts of layered projects though that might not be well received.
07:55:07 ominoverde: yup, could be.
07:55:32 TylerM: ominoverde: aren't you supposed to be down at the cafe?
07:55:36 TylerM: :D
07:55:54 TylerM: hunting through the garbage can for a secret recipe for me? :
07:56:13 ominoverde: TylerM: I guess you are right, it makes me unconfortable to put somewhere ka-map, it's a small bunch of code now but there's still a lot of people using it
07:56:50 : * ominoverde going to the cafe soon
07:57:40 TylerM: oh, i wasn't suggesting anything, just noting that i hear often about projects using intevation services to help them with their project
07:57:49 TylerM: .. and wish osgeo had more to offer on that front.
07:58:12 TylerM: though, with google code up now, there is that better option than sourceforge for small projects
07:58:13 ominoverde: hehe, but who's volunteering then?
07:58:34 : * ominoverde doesn't like google, cuba as ex. can't access
07:58:43 TylerM: :o
07:59:56 crschmidt: yeah, their interpretation of us export laws is somewhat stricter than most
08:00:00 crschmidt: probably because they're bigger than most
08:00:10 strk: didn't google also filter out china ?
08:00:12 ominoverde: probably
08:00:23 ominoverde: strk: that's a market ;- )
08:00:35 strk: they didn't filter themselves out
08:00:40 strk: just selected search results IIRC
08:00:40 ominoverde: hehehe
08:01:03 ominoverde: strk, savannah seems cool
08:01:14 ominoverde: https://savannah.nongnu.org/
08:01:15 sigq: Title: Welcome [Savannah] ( at savannah.nongnu.org )
08:01:25 strk: yeah, way to go
08:01:29 strk: Welcome!
18:18:25 amalon: hi, i'm wanting to load geotiff files of landsat data into using libgeotiff. they appear to have a WGS84 projection. Would i need to use proj.4 on top of that to convert between pixels coordinates and longitude/latitude or is there someway of getting libgeotiff to do it without me worrying about specific projections?
18:22:29 TylerM: amalon: what program are you going to use the image in?
18:23:09 amalon: my own program which i'm writing, at the moment i do naive linear conversion and its not lining up with the elevation data
18:23:56 TylerM: do you want to preprocess your data or do you need to have it do it on-the-fly?
18:24:20 TylerM: there are great command line tools for projection your data into UTM
18:25:21 amalon: i need it on the fly really
18:28:15 amalon: so what does libgeotiff actually do? just provide an interface for accessing the tags?
18:34:07 darkblue_B: that seems likely yo me
18:34:09 darkblue_B: to
18:34:19 darkblue_B: ( just looking at it now )
18:34:33 darkblue_B: have you worked with TIFF before?
18:43:21 TylerM: I can't speak to libgeotiff, ( others here can ) but why not use the GDAL libs instead ( http://gdal.org )
18:43:22 sigq: Title: GDAL: GDAL - Geospatial Data Abstraction Library ( at gdal.org )
18:45:16 TylerM: definitely more features, as far as i know, including projections, etc built in.