| 01:08:44 | amalon: | darkblue_B: no i haven't really worked with tiff in programming before |
| 01:09:22 | amalon: | TylerM: thanks for the tip, I'll look into GDAL. is there documentation for it available online, i can't see any links to it in trac? |
| 01:21:09 | yjacolin: | amalon: the doc is on gdal.org |
| 01:26:35 | amalon: | yjacolin: oh right, it looks from here like the site is down |
| 01:27:27 | amalon: | thanks, i'll try again later |
| 01:29:24 | yjacolin: | yes gdal.orgt seems down |
| 01:29:40 | amalon: | : ) google cache did the trick |
| 01:29:56 | yjacolin: | amalon: do you speak french ? if so there is a french translation outsite gdal.org :p |
| 01:31:53 | amalon: | yjacolin: heh, a bit not well enough |
| 01:32:25 | yjacolin: | bad luck, so you need to wait ; ) |
| 03:03:03 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1291]: 125x53 size png24 logos <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1291> |
| 03:03:41 | CIA-54: | osgeo: ticheler * r1291 /marketing/logo/png24/ ( 7 files in 2 dirs ): 125x53 size png24 logos |
| 04:59:53 | gpotts: | hello all, I was wondering if anyone knew where one could download the latest BigTiff |
| 05:00:01 | gpotts: | I can't get to the cvs tree for some reason |
| 05:00:19 | gpotts: | and was wondering if there was a tarball for the latest src cvs |
| 05:04:41 | jmckenna: | gpotts: http://www.asmail.be/msg0054797451.html |
| 05:04:43 | sigq: | Title: LibTiff Mailing List Archive, "Libtiff CVS Tree Moved", by Frank Warmerdam ( at www.asmail.be ) |
| 05:04:59 | gpotts: | ah |
| 05:05:01 | gpotts: | shott |
| 05:05:04 | gpotts: | shoot |
| 05:05:12 | gpotts: | thanx a million |
| 06:04:30 | darkblue_B: | ajturner: kml printing? |
| 06:07:38 | crschmidt: | darkblue_B: I wonder sometimes if someone gave you a book of my IRC pet peeves as an instruction guide or something : ) |
| 06:08:14 | crschmidt: | I guess you only really hit 2 of the 4 on http://trac.openlayers.org/wiki/IRCPoliteness , so it must have been an incomplete book : ) |
| 06:08:15 | sigq: | Title: IRCPoliteness - OpenLayers - Trac ( at trac.openlayers.org ) |
| 06:15:01 | darkblue_B: | yesterday ajturner asked about kml printing, so I cobbled up a demo using libkml and pdflib, in python, as a proof of concept. neat, eh? |
| 06:16:05 | crschmidt: | cool; is the code somewhere that other people can check out? |
| 06:16:51 | darkblue_B: | not yet.. but it certainly has the makings of something pretty useful |
| 06:16:59 | darkblue_B: | the *idea* does |
| 06:17:22 | : | * crschmidt loks forward to seeing the code |
| 06:17:51 | crschmidt: | Could use it for a proof of concept for something myself |
| 06:18:54 | darkblue_B: | I thought of OL right away actually... some of the guts in a complete solution has to do some similar things |
| 06:19:41 | crschmidt: | Well, getting a PDF out of something like OpenLayers is exceptionally difficult, but the code in OL is typically a well-maintained and generally easy to read example of how to read geodata and interact with it in pixelspace |
| 06:19:49 | crschmidt: | which can be useful for taking geodata and putting it into a PDF as well |
| 06:20:03 | crschmidt: | My proof of concept would be unrelated to OL though : ) |
| 06:20:25 | crschmidt: | I've got a longstanding low priority request to do more interesting things with getting MetaCarta search results onto paper |
| 06:20:34 | darkblue_B: | y, parallel worlds of course.. but the code decomposition might be instructive |
| 06:20:53 | darkblue_B: | results -> paper.. exactly |
| 06:21:01 | crschmidt: | Since we have KML APIs with styling information, KML->PDF would be one interesting possibility |
| 06:21:23 | crschmidt: | If you want an svn repo to toss it in, i've got one handy i can give you write access to *shrug* |
| 06:21:40 | darkblue_B: | the philosophy is, to me, KML is like the PowerPoint of Geo |
| 06:22:05 | crschmidt: | Yeah; I've said HTML of Geo, bu Powerpoint is probably a better analogy |
| 06:22:31 | crschmidt: | almost no information delivered, where it's all about the presentation : ) |
| 06:22:49 | darkblue_B: | I have a lot of work on the day job.. the ogr bindings topic, and this would be third |
| 06:23:05 | crschmidt: | ogr bindings topic? |
| 06:23:32 | crschmidt: | I haven't seen any evidence that using libkml within OGR's kml parser is worthwhile |
| 06:23:43 | darkblue_B: | but since ajturner is so much in the spotlight right now, I thought there might be another angle for this print hack to mature |
| 06:23:57 | crschmidt: | well, I'd gladly take and run with it with code |
| 06:24:08 | crschmidt: | but if you're not able to share, such is life, I suppose |
| 06:24:33 | darkblue_B: | ogr - I've said before, there are substantial benefits, and an opportunity right now, but, lack of resources... |
| 06:24:55 | crschmidt: | Well, you've said there are substantial benefits |
| 06:25:13 | crschmidt: | but I offered a rebuttal to that, and didn't see a response |
| 06:25:16 | darkblue_B: | share - thats a taunt ... of course its shareable, its only a few hours old and not nearly clear enough |
| 06:26:21 | ajturner: | hey darkblue_B |
| 06:26:23 | ajturner: | yeah, checking it out |
| 06:26:28 | darkblue_B: | rebuttal - there was a huge electric car announcement yesterday here, and a minor emergency on my recycling network regarding the coming carbon markets |
| 06:26:49 | darkblue_B: | .. so I am getting whiplash |
| 06:27:01 | crschmidt: | well, my comment was about 6 weeks ago : ) |
| 06:27:07 | crschmidt: | so maybe there was something more recent on the mailing list I missed |
| 06:27:21 | crschmidt: | E_TOOMUCHTRAVEL |
| 06:27:24 | darkblue_B: | I have not been keeping up with the mailing list |
| 06:27:35 | crschmidt: | Oh. I'm cnfused then, sorry |
| 06:27:35 | darkblue_B: | ? |
| 06:28:11 | darkblue_B: | well ajturner is here now.. maybe we can talk about the print hack |
| 06:28:32 | darkblue_B: | it is a good thing.. it would be great to have in the community |
| 06:29:00 | darkblue_B: | .. its just potentially a lot of features to hammer out, to do it well |
| 06:29:37 | ajturner: | of course, TerraGo would *love* you to support KML -> GeoPDF : ) |
| 06:29:50 | darkblue_B: | I wrote postscript professionally for many years |
| 06:30:06 | crschmidt: | ajturner: Heh, we had that conversation with them at one piont |
| 06:30:13 | ajturner: | yeah, me too |
| 06:30:16 | crschmidt: | we gave up when they started talking about charging us to do geopdf |
| 06:30:21 | ajturner: | they need a coupla tix for the cluetrain |
| 06:30:37 | crschmidt: | "Wait. You want to sell your technology by charging content producers?" |
| 06:30:38 | ajturner: | for us they just said "yeah, we only do custom solutions, an engine'd be great" |
| 06:30:46 | ajturner: | and "here's the OGC spec" - which is pretty empty |
| 06:31:43 | ajturner: | for print - can also pull up AStraup's or my PocketMap code ( PHP and Ruby resp. ) |
| 06:32:18 | darkblue_B: | AStraup ? |
| 06:32:19 | ajturner: | ah, darkblue_B the large difficulty here with KML is the styling information - right now just rendering point geometries |
| 06:32:25 | ajturner: | Aaron Straup Cope of Flickr |
| 06:32:27 | darkblue_B: | yeah! |
| 06:32:44 | darkblue_B: | proof of concept ;- ) |
| 06:32:49 | darkblue_B: | needs a lot |
| 06:34:10 | ajturner: | Kml lib is nice - does it handle figuring out feature-level styling? |
| 06:34:16 | ajturner: | the semi-cascading ? |
| 06:34:57 | darkblue_B: | I havent tested the read results much, its very new itself |
| 06:35:03 | darkblue_B: | they had been changing it |
| 06:35:21 | darkblue_B: | just a few weeks agao they said dont bother looking at theparse resutls too much because they will change |
| 06:35:34 | darkblue_B: | I'm using a trunk build |
| 06:36:17 | ajturner: | hrm |
| 06:36:30 | darkblue_B: | I know how to write out colors and icons and such to postscript/pdf |
| 06:36:41 | darkblue_B: | but inevitably it will be a lot of work |
| 06:37:13 | ajturner: | yep |
| 06:37:20 | ajturner: | it's the KML cascading that becomes a little more difficult |
| 06:37:26 | ajturner: | and also things like icons & hotspots |
| 06:37:39 | darkblue_B: | cascading? maybe I dont follow |
| 06:37:47 | crschmidt: | darkblue_B: styles can inherit fro meach other |
| 06:37:58 | crschmidt: | and features can have styles explicitly and inherit from other style definitions |
| 06:38:02 | darkblue_B: | yes.. but I assume libkml will deal with that |
| 06:38:11 | ajturner: | and you can override Document-level styling with Placemark level stying |
| 06:38:11 | crschmidt: | Well, I think that's what ajturner's question was |
| 06:38:17 | darkblue_B: | the parse result will be static |
| 06:50:24 | darkblue_B: | I just searched the headers, it appears that they dont have a getExtent( ) on the KML .. thats not too good |
| 14:04:12 | : | * tomkralidis is excited to hear about a C code sprint in his backyard |