#OSGEO IRC Log - 2008-11-24

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07:24:17 strk: hobu: that PSC is a great decision maker, isn't it ? :P
07:38:04 tomkralidis: pramsey: looks like bondplace.ca is hard to beat
07:38:19 pramsey: yeah, great room rate
07:39:04 tomkralidis: called them this AM. They will get back to me w.r.t. connectivity. meeting room is $200/day
07:39:41 pramsey: at those prices, is heat included? : )
07:40:32 tomkralidis: that's a good question! Once they confirm the Internet stuff ( they outsource it ), I am going to go down there ( I don't live or work downtown at all ) and see for myself
07:41:03 TylerM: what? no Casa Loma ? : )
07:41:18 pramsey: pretty hard to beat the Italian monastery
07:41:26 pramsey: perhaps the Cariboo ranch house
07:41:44 TylerM: too bad their site sucks http://www.casaloma.org/
07:41:45 sigq: Title: Casa Loma ( at www.casaloma.org )
07:42:03 TylerM: hmm.. yeah, we're only one hour flight from Vancouver.. so convenient : )
07:42:32 TylerM: too bad most of our 'resorts' up here are mainly for hunting/fishing
07:42:34 tomkralidis: the airport area has all sorts for what we want, but you're stuck at the airport.
07:42:58 TylerM: it's worth the drive to niagara on the lake! : )
07:44:46 pramsey: good idea on the site visit, tomkralidis
07:45:13 pramsey: I was there in, I think 2002.
07:45:22 pramsey: Been a while.
07:47:02 : * seven sees us all getting old.
07:56:31 FrankW: pramsey, tomkralidis: Doc Robinson will look into a venue though it may be next week before he comes back with a response due to a heavy load this week.
07:56:40 strk: the first generation of old internauts isn't it ? : )
07:56:46 pramsey: thanks FrankW
07:57:07 pramsey: kids, these days, don't know the pain of cadging internet connectivity from the lab with SLIRP
07:57:16 jmckenna: so, why toronto?
07:57:38 pramsey: me, Howard, Steve, and an open beer tab
07:57:41 pramsey: need I say more?
07:57:47 pramsey: it made sense at the time.
07:57:48 strk: boy, never had to do SLIRP in my life ! PLIP I used : )
07:57:57 FrankW: lol
07:58:13 jmckenna: ( works for me as i can commute to mom's 40mins away for free )...um, why are u 3 in toronto at that time?
07:58:38 pramsey: we aren't. it's central, primarily.
07:59:01 crschmidt: I graduated from high school in 2002...
07:59:08 hobu: I suggested Toronto because it is central, we could con volunteers, and it's an international airport hub so the EU folks can get there in one or two hops
07:59:16 : * crschmidt isn't getting old yet.
07:59:56 hobu: also, Toronto in winter doesn't have the distraction potential of other places ; )
08:01:09 jmckenna: i'm like most canadians and avoid going to toronto like the plague ha.
08:01:33 : * hobu didn't know it was a place to be avoided
08:01:43 FrankW: jmckenna: the mother city calls!
08:02:14 jmckenna: don't worry i'm 'registered' on the wiki. but toronto?
08:02:14 FrankW: There is a certain amount of anti-cosmopolitan bias from people living in the sticks.
08:03:00 jmckenna: traffic and expensive accommodation. unless we look into a university setting
08:03:17 hobu: Chicotoumi was the first choice : )
08:05:29 jmckenna: montreal man, montreal it should be. international favor AND it actually has character
08:05:45 jmckenna: but i was not involved in talks for this so i will be quiet now
08:21:44 seven: crschmidt: I graduated from high school in 1987. "Computer Science" was in its second year and in quotes.
08:22:06 seven: Chicoutimi is great. Have a snow machine tour on the lakes with him.
08:22:50 jmckenna: yup chic would be excellent.
08:23:12 crschmidt: computer science is still in quotes ; )
08:23:31 tomkralidis: accomodations are not that bad. Bond place gives us $79/night. Right downtown.
08:23:38 : * bitner is surprised lime didn't suggest an ice shack on mille lacs
08:23:56 tomkralidis: if you were buying a house here yes I would agree expensive!
08:25:29 pramsey: bright lights, big city. we'll go to a show : )
08:25:44 TylerM: oh yeah, some people like downtown ; )
08:37:25 TylerM: glad to hear about the code sprint though! kudos guys
08:40:35 tomkralidis: I think it will be fun!
08:41:21 TylerM: i bet!
08:42:03 TylerM: too bad i can't make it
08:44:32 spatialguru: dang.. think wifi on my macbook is slowly dying :(
09:20:57 FrankW: spatialguru: Did you respond to the info request titled "How to start ? tutorial ... data..."?
09:41:02 spatialguru: hmm don't think so
09:41:34 spatialguru: FrankW: is it just me or is traffic increasing on that alias?
09:58:35 acuster: FrankW, wohoo! whois now reads PENDING TRANSFER on geotools.org
09:58:50 acuster: http://www.pir.org/index.php?mode=whois&db=content%2FWebsite&tbl=Registrants&id=3&whois_query_field=geotools&Submit=Search
09:58:51 sigq: Title: .:: .ORG Registry ::. ( at www.pir.org )
09:59:19 : * acuster could use some good news
13:44:01 mpg_: /msg NickServ identify erk
13:44:20 mpg_: /msg NickServ identify erkdfsgjlsdfgsdfg
13:44:25 mpg_: Hmmm.
13:44:34 ominoverde: hehhe, mpg_!
13:44:58 : * mpg_ thinks about leading whitespace
13:45:51 TylerM: leading space is bad : )
13:46:30 : * crschmidt waves to mpg
13:49:54 : * mpg is happy now
13:50:36 pramsey: what word on the "event", mpg?
13:51:16 : * racicot has notes to type up from the cugos meeting... will do soon
13:51:24 mpg: We collected a bunch of ideas, and a few folks were going to check additional venues -- I'll post a summary tomorrow or Wed, when I hear back from folks
13:51:57 mpg: so far all seems positive, the biggest blocker is the venue and/or how to fund any req'd deposit
13:52:54 racicot: pramsey: in general there was a lot of good ideas... we just need to realistically look at workshops, talks, and code sprint and see what is feasible and who will champion each.
13:53:09 racicot: and oh yea, money is always the rub
13:53:35 pramsey: it is if "free entry" is the baseline expectation : )
13:53:35 ominoverde: mpg: is that for foss4g or Hacking Event?
13:53:51 mpg: a Pacific Northwest Mini-Conference
13:53:54 ominoverde: cool
13:54:19 mpg: well, but you are not in the Pac NW, are you?
13:54:39 : * ominoverde will do a parallel event in his neighbourhood in Barcelona, Spain
13:54:50 ominoverde: :- )
13:55:17 pramsey: well, heck, I'm going to spain then, no contest : )
13:55:47 ominoverde: you're welcome pramsey, hehe, there's an event in Girona next March...
13:55:51 crschmidt: from the man who doesn't want a couple days in sydney between the conference and code sprint?
13:56:08 crschmidt: clearly pramsey would rather be in spain than sydney...
13:56:08 mpg: pramsey: OGC meeting in Valencia next week, you could do that...
13:56:20 ominoverde: I'll be there, but for gvSIG days
13:56:26 pramsey: i'm booking my tickets for sydney this week. 9 days, end to end.
13:56:30 racicot: pramsey: my idea was a "ferry code sprint"... Anacortes to Victoria and back using the ferry wifi and the passanger deck as a venue... how about that for an "out of the box" idea ;- )
13:56:42 ominoverde: racicot: that's my dream too :-D
13:56:50 pramsey: I like that. I always liked the idea of meeting on ferries, nobody else did.
13:56:56 pramsey: There's ferry wifi?
13:57:23 : * jmckenna would love to go to spain sometime : )
13:58:14 ominoverde: jmckenna: cross your finger en maybe soon ;- )
13:58:50 racicot: doh, that run doesnt... but pretty much all others do : https://wireless.nnu.com/nw4/sites/wsf/main
13:58:51 sigq: Title: Washington State Ferries Wi-Fi ( at wireless.nnu.com )
13:59:54 racicot: "Planned 2Q 2009" for Anacortes - San Juan Is.
13:59:56 mpg: I've got a Sprint cell-modem card, we could share that out :-(
14:35:32 spatialguru: racicot: why not meet half way? http://depts.washington.edu/fhl/facMap.html
14:35:34 sigq: Title: Campus Map of FHL ( at depts.washington.edu )
14:35:44 spatialguru: oh, guess Friday Harbor isn't exactly half way ; )
14:38:20 racicot: spatialguru: that facility looks great actually... I will have to call them
14:38:49 racicot: looks cheap and they have student rates already built into their pricing...
14:39:16 spatialguru: and a dining hall too..
14:40:37 racicot: food is $29/day/person and beds are $30-$50/day
14:40:53 spatialguru: maybe internal pricing only??
14:41:21 spatialguru: but yeah it did look encouraging : )
14:42:29 racicot: "The facilities are reserved for educational and research purposes only." but we have some UW faculty in CUGOS... maybe they could sponsor us...
14:42:40 spatialguru: you guys rock.. : )
14:42:56 : * racicot lives on a rock...
14:50:58 spatialguru: racicot: maybe you can get a deal by renting the entire 23 room complex http://www.fridayharborhouse.com/meetings.php ;- ) hehe
14:50:59 sigq: Title: Meeting and Event Facilities on San Juan Island ( at www.fridayharborhouse.com )
14:53:17 racicot: hmmm... $190 per person but that includes food, meeting room and guest room with jetted tub and fireplace ;- )
14:56:36 racicot: spatialguru: that is owned by the same company that runs the nice hotel in our town here : http://www.innatlangley.com/
14:56:37 sigq: Title: The Inn at Langley | Whidbey Island Hotels and Lodging ( at www.innatlangley.com )
14:57:34 spatialguru: boy, i might commute from there to victoria next time i have to head down .. ;- ) heh
14:57:49 spatialguru: not used to inclusive rates .. or jetted tubs : )
15:14:11 pramsey: booked. I'm goin' ta sydney.
15:14:22 pramsey: in styyyle...
15:20:12 spatialguru: :o
15:20:23 spatialguru: do we want to know?
15:20:43 pramsey: qantas business class. they actually massage your feet the whole way there
15:21:15 spatialguru: oh.. is that different than the vibrating fuselage on the DASH 8?
15:24:33 racicot: business must be booming for the clever elephant...
15:25:18 pramsey: a decades worth of frequent flier miles, up in smoke
15:25:56 : * racicot checks on pet transport rates and if he can cram himself into a dog carrier...
15:35:27 tbowde1: The big Q eh pramsey? Be careful you don't fall out of the sky!
15:35:27 tbowde1: ( local topical joke... http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,24472272-952,00.html and http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,26058,24260831-5014090,00.html )
15:35:27 tbowde1: Whilst Q has the safest record in the world ( 0 fatalities *ever* ) there has been a string of Qantas bad news lately. Rumour has it though it's just the engineers leaking maintenance fubars to further their bargaining with management over offshore servicing of aircraft.
15:35:29 sigq: Title: Qantas Airbus flight plunged 1000 feet | The Courier-Mail ( at www.news.com.au )
15:36:18 pramsey: sounds like fun
15:37:04 tbowde1: but will be good to see you here ( if you arrive in one piece! ) and share that pint overlooking the most magnificent city harbour in the world
15:46:54 sigq: osgeofeed: Ticket #318 ( task created ): Wiki sidebar etc. embasement <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/318>
15:53:14 pramsey: going to be a good pint, tbowde1
15:54:09 tbowde1: If it's just one I'll be very upset.
15:54:10 sigq: osgeofeed: Ticket #318 ( task created ): Wiki sidebar etc. embarrassment <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/318>
16:01:40 tbowde1: \nick tbowden
16:01:47 tbowde1: ouch! didn't work!
16:02:09 crschmidt: other way
16:02:12 crschmidt: /nick
16:02:13 spatialguru: don't nick him, he's a good guy
16:02:32 tbowden: ah, that's better.
16:02:55 tbowden: thanks crschmidt
16:07:12 tbowden: Just catching up on wanking. Looks like the neotards and paleotards are having a good old stoush but can't work out who's who or even if the exist. Very amusing
16:07:20 crschmidt: yeah
16:07:33 crschmidt: i skim each email to grin a bit at the absurdity of it all
16:08:53 sigq: osgeofeed: Ticket #318 ( task closed ): Wiki sidebar etc. embarrassment <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/318#comment:3>
18:47:09 TylerM: jlivni: congrats on the shoutout re: obama maps : )!
18:47:44 TylerM: e.g. http://www.terragis.net/2008/11/24/obama-campaign-mapping-voters-with-mapserver-postgis-and-openlayers/
18:47:47 sigq: Title: » Obama Campaign - Mapping voters with Mapserver, PostGIS and Openlayers ( at www.terragis.net )
18:47:58 TylerM: good work
19:12:43 jlivni: sweet - im famous ( tho i think i didn't have more than a few short minutes of anything directly related to building that site )
19:37:01 TylerM: heh - well placed time ;- )
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