| 07:51:07 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1539]: Revised FOSS4G 2009 banners. <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1539> |
| 07:51:08 | CIA-15: | osgeo: vmische * r1539 /foss4g/2009/documents/images/ ( 16 files ): Revised FOSS4G 2009 banners. |
| 08:03:38 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1540]: Added banner ads for websites. <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1540> |
| 08:04:01 | CIA-15: | osgeo: vmische * r1540 /foss4g/2009/website/images/ ( logo_125x125.png logo_120x90.png ): Added banner ads for websites. |
| 08:07:35 | vmx: | does anyone know what need to be done to make images from /foss4g/2009/website/images/ available at http://2009.foss4g.org/images/?? |
| 08:31:41 | TylerM: | vmx: we manually update from svn into the current/live site |
| 08:31:45 | TylerM: | I just ran it for you |
| 08:32:04 | TylerM: | http://2009.foss4g.org/images/logo_125x125.png - works |
| 08:32:08 | TylerM: | biab |
| 08:32:30 | vmx: | thanks TylerM |
| 12:57:41 | CIA-15: | osgeo: vmische * r1541 /foss4g/2009/website/images/ ( 4 files ): Make sponsor logos publicly available. |
| 12:57:41 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1541]: Make sponsor logos publicly available. <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1541> |
| 12:57:42 | vmx: | can any of the osgeo guys please run the sync script for the foss4g website? TylerM perhaps? |
| 13:07:57 | TylerM: | vmx: done |
| 13:08:11 | vmx: | thanks |
| 13:08:19 | TylerM: | wildintellect: i've got more 2007 annual reports printed, want some? |
| 13:16:45 | darkblue_B: | hello - I was idley considering what might be a representative slice of OSGeo activity to display.. I am looking at the OSGeo-Software-and-Data-Projects page on Nabble.. credit to Jason Birch whose smiling face occurs at the bottom |
| 13:16:47 | TylerM: | vmx: seems the "web-banner-square.jpg" I was referring in our osgeo web site is gone? |
| 13:17:01 | : | * TylerM waves at brian |
| 13:17:06 | darkblue_B: | hi TylerM |
| 13:17:24 | darkblue_B: | dont let me interrupt.. just ad-hoc internet time :- ) |
| 13:17:35 | TylerM: | not much going on here : ) carry on soldier ; ) |
| 13:18:37 | vmx: | tylerm: it should still be in the web folder ( but not in the documents folder ) |
| 13:18:44 | darkblue_B: | the Java side of thing.. GeoTools.. isnt on the Nabble site |
| 13:18:57 | darkblue_B: | but quite a few other things are.. |
| 13:19:01 | TylerM: | vmx ok |
| 13:19:07 | vmx: | tylerm: you should upgrade to the 125x125 logo ( if that's possible ) |
| 13:19:17 | TylerM: | i just did thanks |
| 13:19:23 | vmx: | great |
| 13:21:41 | darkblue_B: | Ohloh search for OSGeo pulls in OpenStreetMap too |
| 13:21:52 | TylerM: | darkblue_B: my stack doesn't : ) |
| 13:21:57 | darkblue_B: | a distinction needs to made gracefully there |
| 13:22:00 | darkblue_B: | aha |
| 13:22:05 | darkblue_B: | looing |
| 13:22:23 | TylerM: | try http://www.ohloh.net/stacks/151 |
| 13:22:25 | sigq: | Title: Tyler Mitchell's Default Stack - Ohloh ( at www.ohloh.net ) |
| 13:22:38 | TylerM: | hmm, i better name it osgeo, so it gets picked up better |
| 13:23:41 | darkblue_B: | stacks 151 - nice |
| 13:24:11 | TylerM: | does 151 have any numeric significance? ; ) |
| 13:24:11 | crschmidt: | ohloh stopped following the OL svn about 6 months ago I |
| 13:24:18 | crschmidt: | keep hoping something will magically h appen to make it work again |
| 13:24:22 | TylerM: | hopefully not as much as my original account number : ) https://www.ohloh.net/accounts/666 |
| 13:24:24 | sigq: | Title: Tyler Mitchell - Ohloh ( at www.ohloh.net ) |
| 13:24:26 | TylerM: | :o |
| 13:24:32 | TylerM: | crschmidt: hmm... |
| 13:25:14 | darkblue_B: | well I was thinking about what to have front and center at the USGS |
| 13:25:19 | TylerM: | crschmidt: i did find some of the admins on #ohloh at one point in time.. they might help. |
| 13:25:31 | crschmidt: | ah, but then it wouldn't be magic : ) |
| 13:26:00 | darkblue_B: | the OSGeo front page is *ok* but something that shows activity might be fun.. you know, Web Two-point-oh |
| 13:26:10 | TylerM: | yeah... |
| 13:26:12 | TylerM: | crschmidt: heh |
| 13:26:28 | darkblue_B: | I should think that OL would stand out for activity |
| 13:26:36 | darkblue_B: | not good if ohloh isnt current on that |
| 13:26:40 | darkblue_B: | Nabble is good for that |
| 13:26:57 | crschmidt: | I don't think OL stands out for activity more than most OSGeo projects. |
| 13:26:59 | TylerM: | darkblue_B: I've been working on a script with the ohloh API to help roll up stats in a more meaningful way. |
| 13:27:14 | darkblue_B: | well, I was going to wip up a graph |
| 13:27:18 | darkblue_B: | whip |
| 13:27:22 | crschmidt: | GDAL, MapServer, and PostGIS are all more active, I believe |
| 13:27:28 | crschmidt: | Of course, OpenLayers is more awesome. |
| 13:27:33 | crschmidt: | So there is that. |
| 13:27:36 | TylerM: | that's the spirit ; ) |
| 13:27:41 | darkblue_B: | I think OL should be hilited to USGS |
| 13:28:06 | crschmidt: | I've never talked to USGS people who aren't well aware of OpenLayers; perhaps you have some specific goal in mind? |
| 13:28:16 | darkblue_B: | but its not like there are editorial favorites, rather, reflection of real stuff out there |
| 13:28:30 | darkblue_B: | USGS people -> well this is outreach |
| 13:28:44 | darkblue_B: | so.. always moving beyond the core super-well-informed |
| 13:29:10 | darkblue_B: | maybe everyone at the USGS OpenHouse will be there with OL |
| 13:29:13 | darkblue_B: | I dont know |
| 13:29:28 | crschmidt: | Well, Knowing about OL and being able to use OL are two different things |
| 13:29:28 | darkblue_B: | just thinking out loud |
| 13:29:35 | darkblue_B: | good point |
| 13:30:00 | darkblue_B: | "How do I get started" |
| 13:30:00 | crschmidt: | Many of the things that USGS does are inappropriate for OpenLayers |
| 13:30:07 | darkblue_B: | sure |
| 13:30:15 | darkblue_B: | I wont ever know what all they do |
| 13:30:29 | TylerM: | I have a quick cross-browser test question.... |
| 13:30:34 | TylerM: | in footer here: http://www.osgeo.org/tyler |
| 13:30:35 | crschmidt: | Nor I : ) |
| 13:30:36 | sigq: | Title: TylerMitchell's blog | OSGeo.org ( at www.osgeo.org ) |
| 13:30:40 | TylerM: | do you see the scrolling banner? |
| 13:30:53 | crschmidt: | Yes. |
| 13:30:57 | TylerM: | it's not done yet, but just don't want to waste my time further if it doesn't ; ) |
| 13:31:03 | TylerM: | crschmidt: thx, what OS and browser? |
| 13:31:23 | darkblue_B: | Ubuntu 8.10 FF3 - yeah |
| 13:31:33 | TylerM: | thx darkblue_B |
| 13:31:39 | crschmidt: | TylerM: Safari3, FF3, OS X |
| 13:31:48 | TylerM: | great |
| 13:31:54 | : | * TylerM looks around for one of those windows users... |
| 13:31:56 | TylerM: | ; ) |
| 13:33:07 | wildintellect: | TylerM, you can send whatever you want us to have at the booths( new copy of your book? ) |
| 13:33:42 | TylerM: | wildintellect: roger that. heh - still waiting for my book myself :P |
| 13:33:55 | TylerM: | unbelievable :S |
| 13:34:04 | darkblue_B: | wildintellect: you having stuff shipped to Davis? |
| 13:34:17 | wildintellect: | in general we have in the past |
| 13:34:26 | darkblue_B: | the long long history |
| 13:34:28 | darkblue_B: | :p |
| 13:34:43 | wildintellect: | well most of the materials live here, so it makes sense |
| 13:35:06 | wildintellect: | over the summer I think a lot of events are bay area so we might see about leaving it all with you |
| 13:35:14 | TylerM: | it sure helps to have an address to dump my propaganda to ;- ) |
| 13:38:15 | wildintellect: | TylerM, is the Journal ed 5 done? |
| 13:38:26 | TylerM: | I'd rather not talk about it ;- ) |
| 13:38:30 | TylerM: | no, not done yet.. |
| 13:38:35 | TylerM: | got a bit too busy last week with finances. |
| 13:38:48 | darkblue_B: | hows that dissertation going wildintellect ? |
| 13:39:01 | TylerM: | good question ; ) shift the guilt back ;- ) hehe |
| 13:39:13 | wildintellect: | at least my talk at CGS this weekend is related |
| 13:39:26 | wildintellect: | I'm going to talk about spatialite and how I've been using it |
| 13:39:33 | darkblue_B: | aha |
| 13:39:37 | darkblue_B: | thats fun |
| 13:39:37 | wildintellect: | for my research |
| 13:39:38 | TylerM: | cool - wish I could be there |
| 13:40:03 | darkblue_B: | I am wondering about spatialite.. I am using sqlite3 for my day job |
| 13:40:24 | wildintellect: | the new qgis build with spatialite support is the last piece of the puzzle to make it acceptable to the GUI driven GISer |
| 13:40:42 | darkblue_B: | is that trunk qgis ? |
| 13:40:56 | wildintellect: | yes, I think it's also in 1.1 which is being packaged as we speak |
| 13:41:04 | darkblue_B: | excellent |
| 13:49:37 | wildintellect: | I guess I'll print Journal 4 for this weekend |
| 13:51:27 | TylerM: | wildintellect: I can get some in the mail for you tomorrow, e.g. for where 2.0 or whatever. |
| 13:51:52 | wildintellect: | if you already have them printed, sure |
| 13:52:40 | wildintellect: | have you heard any feedback about changing the marketing meeting time? |
| 13:54:29 | TylerM: | yes, just picked up from printers.. snazzy colour cover.. great quality. |
| 13:54:42 | TylerM: | No one else has spoke up on the time change suggestions. |
| 13:54:59 | wildintellect: | makes me wonder if anyone else will show up |
| 13:55:06 | wildintellect: | since it's just been us the last 2 times |
| 14:45:36 | pramsey: | help from the masses: geographic trivia, _______'s Law, the idea that things near each other tend to be similar? |
| 14:45:48 | : | * pramsey plays the Jeopardy theme. |
| 14:46:05 | darkblue_B: | similarly bad - Murphy |
| 14:46:23 | darkblue_B: | faster -> Moore |
| 14:47:05 | pramsey: | found it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_of_geography |
| 14:47:06 | sigq: | Title: First law of geography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ( at en.wikipedia.org ) |
| 14:48:36 | darkblue_B: | Waldo Tobler - of course ! ;- ) |
| 15:02:02 | bish0p: | ok, so i was just talking with some people about ESRI image server to do on the fly othro rectification... is this possible with some sort of osgeo products? |
| 15:03:52 | bish0p: | on the fly part.. not actually being required |
| 15:06:50 | wildintellect: | what orthorectification |
| 15:07:22 | crschmidt: | bish0p: as I understand orthorectification, it is a process that requires someone to manually enter in gcps and associate them to an image. |
| 15:08:49 | wildintellect: | bish0p, did you want to do it in a desktop app or via a website/server? |
| 15:08:52 | bish0p: | yeah, this would be more of a on-the-fly dingbat product.. which would be tossed when the later properly ( gcps involved ) is delivered |
| 15:09:25 | wildintellect: | you mean like guess based on the center point coordinate and elevation |
| 15:09:35 | bish0p: | wildintellect: in a server - service would be a WMS |
| 15:09:56 | TylerM: | with user choosing the common place on multiple images? |
| 15:10:06 | crschmidt: | bish0p: I'm not sure I understand how something can be rectified without data matching, or a human matching |
| 15:10:12 | bish0p: | wildintellect: yeah, just a silly : ortho-ready product + DEM - no GCP/user clicking |
| 15:10:41 | bish0p: | crschmidt: yeah, that is what I thought, but apparently ESRI's Image Server is offering this feature.. which to me means it is just faking something.. |
| 15:10:57 | crschmidt: | Or perhaps someone doesn't understand what they're dealing with... |
| 15:11:00 | : | * bish0p doesn't want to get sucked into having to start serving data from ESRI Image Server. |
| 15:11:14 | crschmidt: | Sounds to me like a miscommunication. |
| 15:11:18 | bish0p: | yeah, probably should do some more research of what it is ESRI is actually doing |
| 15:11:26 | TylerM: | Sounds more like warping to fit topography using imagery that's already clearly registered |
| 15:11:40 | crschmidt: | Well, that can be done with Open Source software |
| 15:11:49 | crschmidt: | vis http://labs.metacarta.com/rectifier/ |
| 15:11:50 | sigq: | Title: Map Rectifier - by MetaCarta Labs -- A web-based map rectification tool ( at labs.metacarta.com ) |
| 15:11:56 | TylerM: | Like the process to do the orthorectification, but where GCP are already known : ) |
| 15:12:56 | bish0p: | ahh, rectifier, that looks promising. |
| 15:15:50 | pramsey: | orthorectification is more than warping to fit |
| 15:16:27 | pramsey: | an orthophoto is one where every pixel is a nadir observation, looking straight down. which, from a reality-based PoV is impossible |
| 15:16:49 | bish0p: | yeah, i'm looking for a ortho-warping product i guess |
| 15:17:13 | pramsey: | but using an aerial photo, knowledge of the how the lense in the camera works, and the ground topography ( hills, etc ) it's posisble to make one with math |
| 15:17:30 | pramsey: | back in the good old days ( tm ) they did it with amazing optical machines |
| 15:17:49 | TylerM: | i think you're simply looking for 'rubbersheeting', that more accurate pramsey ? |
| 15:18:00 | bish0p: | what i've got is a vendor delivering an ortho-ready product to be archived and then later that will be cleaned up into a proper orthorectified product.. but between the two deliveries we'd like a WMS of 'just winging it for now so you can see pixels but holycow don't build anything based on this' layer |
| 15:18:06 | pramsey: | that's what the "rectifier" at labs. does, yes, TylerM |
| 15:18:16 | pramsey: | "rectifier" is a bit over-named. |
| 15:19:10 | wildintellect: | bish0p, if it's ortho-ready then it should already be georeferenced |
| 15:19:13 | pramsey: | BTW, OSSIM ( osgeo project ) can do terrain correction. It also had some GCP hooks, though I am not sure what their current state is. |
| 15:19:28 | pramsey: | er, terrain correction and also sensor correction |
| 15:19:39 | pramsey: | last time I researched the GCP stuff was two years ago |
| 15:19:46 | pramsey: | so it could be quite usable at this moment |
| 15:20:02 | bish0p: | wildintellect: yes, geo referenced. the issue we have where I am is that we have bad DEM data and we want to be able to revisit stuff when we get better DEM data |
| 15:20:47 | wildintellect: | so do you want to orthorectify using the current dem and then serve the result |
| 15:21:05 | wildintellect: | or just overlay them on top of each other |
| 15:21:23 | bish0p: | yeah, orthorectify on a 'what we got' DEM |
| 15:21:42 | bish0p: | which in house is the USGS NED.. horrible stuff up here in Alaska |
| 15:22:54 | wildintellect: | so maybe OSSIM, or GRASS |
| 15:23:09 | wildintellect: | with GRASS you can make it a service via pywps I think |
| 15:23:31 | bish0p: | ahh, there we go |
| 15:23:47 | wildintellect: | http://grass.itc.it/grass64/manuals/html64_user/i.ortho.photo.html |
| 15:23:49 | sigq: | Title: GRASS GIS manual: i.ortho.photo ( at grass.itc.it ) |
| 15:23:56 | bish0p: | i noticed GRASS did this but I didn't know I could service it up if I was more leet in GRASS |
| 15:24:32 | bish0p: | thanks - ok, so this gives me a direction to go.. got plenty of time to try to come up with my own solution before this ESRI thing comes up.. so time to experiements |
| 17:40:19 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1542]: added mapgears <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1542> |
| 17:40:32 | CIA-15: | osgeo: sab * r1542 /foss4g/2009/website/ ( 29 files in 19 dirs ): added mapgears |
| 18:53:48 | CIA-15: | osgeo: sab * r1543 /foss4g/2009/website/index.html: minor fix |
| 18:53:48 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [1543]: minor fix <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/1543> |
