#OSGEO IRC Log - 2009-05-20

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02:59:31 cpm: Good Morning!
07:22:41 seven: Ping darkblue_B:
08:42:48 crschmidt: For anyone interested in following along, #where2.0 on this network is the 'backchannel' for the Where 2.0 conference happening right now in San Jose, California.
08:51:40 steko: crschmidt: thanks
13:37:51 TylerM: FrankW: fyi - digging those details for peo right now
13:38:00 TylerM: digging "up"
16:11:41 jgarnett: crschmidt ping?
16:13:26 crschmidt: pong
16:13:47 jgarnett: I had a quick question for you along the website/marketting boundary
16:13:55 crschmidt: k
16:14:03 jgarnett: I have been looking over the marketting stuff Tyler had very carefully
16:14:14 jgarnett: and have been thinking about how to apply it to website branding
16:14:33 jgarnett: I wanted to ask if the graphic designer was already on the hook for this - and I should just wait; or if I should proceed.
16:14:49 crschmidt: Ah, nobody has talked to me or webcom about it
16:14:53 crschmidt: so i'd recommend checking with tyler
16:15:03 jgarnett: It seems that you share my interest in improving the osgeo branding story; so I thought I would start with you :- )
16:15:39 jgarnett: you know the material I am refering to though?
16:15:58 jgarnett: the other thing is an oppertunity ...
16:16:38 jgarnett: the geotools community would like to set up a website; rather than a wiki. So I would have a chance to try out the osgeo branding on an otherwise innocent project ( getting the fonts and color choices used to be consistent etc...
16:17:18 jgarnett: to that end are you the correct person to talk to about http://geotools.osgeo.org/ ( which right now redirects )
16:17:21 sigq: Title: GeoTools InfoSheet | OSGeo.org ( at geotools.osgeo.org )
16:28:14 jgarnett: srschmidt: perhaps the question is too simple; how would I go about creating something similar to http://mapguide.osgeo.org/
16:28:15 sigq: Title: MapGuide Project Home | MapGuide Open Source ( at mapguide.osgeo.org )
16:28:29 jgarnett: is that just an instance of drupal?
16:28:37 crschmidt: mapguide.osgeo.org is hosted as a seperate drupal instance
16:28:42 crschmidt: and I believe may even be on osgeo2 instead of osgeo1
16:28:56 crschmidt: it was set up and is maintained primarily by Jason, I think?
16:29:31 jgarnett: I am not aware of the organization of osgeo hardware; this is partly why I do not know what questions to ask
16:29:45 jgarnett: should I sign up to the website committee to ask these questions?
16:29:50 crschmidt: Yeah, and a lot of this was set up before my time or without my knowledge
16:29:57 crschmidt: so I'm unfortunately at a loss to answer your questions
16:30:05 crschmidt: I would say that sending an email to the webcom list with what you'r elooking for
16:30:09 crschmidt: and asking how mapguide does it
16:30:15 crschmidt: ould let the people who actually know help answer you : )
16:30:35 jgarnett: okay thanks for the advice; back to work for me now.
17:48:51 FrankW: jgarnett: I'll mention that the fdo.osgeo.org and mapguide.osgeo.org drupal sites are hosted on osgeo1. Tyler is likely the best contact if you wantted another project drupal instance.
17:51:27 jgarnett: thanks frank
17:51:51 jgarnett: I would prefer a simple html / php site if there is an apache instance to be had
17:52:09 jgarnett: but yes I have sent Tyler an email
17:52:27 jgarnett: I am as much interested in the branding stuff as the website
17:52:33 jgarnett: :-P
18:03:09 FrankW: We normally host simplier html web sites on the telascience blade known as upload.osgeo.org, grass.osgeo.org, www.mapserver.org and various other things.
18:03:30 FrankW: If you would like an instance hosted there SAC can provide access and info on short notice.
18:04:58 jgarnett: I would rather do it correctly then short notice
18:05:24 jgarnett: although if it is available that would be fine for me
18:05:25 FrankW: Well, we can also do it given long advance notice!
18:05:36 jgarnett: good good :- )
18:06:14 FrankW: But that doesn't necessarily address OSGeo branding. I don't think any of the plain html sites have made much effort to apply OSGeo styling similar to the drupal instances.
18:06:38 jgarnett: agreed; I think that is partly because there have not been much for OSGeo styling .... yet.
18:06:54 FrankW: true
18:07:02 jgarnett: I was going to abuse the poor geotools community by using them as an experiment in osgeo styling; blaze a trail and all that
18:07:24 FrankW: In the case of the GDAL web site, it is generated with Doxygen so it isn't entirely trivial for me to control things about the styling.
18:07:29 jgarnett: although I would not want it to come across as geotools doing something to annoy others.
18:07:38 FrankW: not at all
18:07:51 jgarnett: this would still just be me being a pain with respect to my usual; we should look like a group; etc...
18:08:14 jgarnett: I know mapserver just did a site refresh for example.
18:08:44 jgarnett: okay well the SAC access sounds like the best then; where do I start :- )
18:08:57 FrankW: that's true. I don't think "osgeo styling" was particularly an objective other than including the OSGeo logo on th e main page.
18:09:14 FrankW: Your osgeo userid is jive, right?
18:09:48 jgarnett: yep we got distracted by logos and website layout for the foundation as a whole; this time we are starting with a logo and font choices and colors made etc.... makes it easier.
18:09:54 jgarnett: jive is correct
18:10:02 : * FrankW digs for how to login enable an osgeo userid...
18:11:48 FrankW: ok, you should now be able to login to the telascience blades using your normal LDAP account.
18:11:56 FrankW: I'll add sudo for you on the blade in question.
18:12:22 FrankW: done
18:12:47 FrankW: Info on the blade in question ( xblade14-2 ) is available at http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC_Service_Status
18:12:48 sigq: Title: SAC Service Status - OSGeo Wiki ( at wiki.osgeo.org )
18:12:52 jgarnett: I may have to pester my friend mleslie for missing gaps in linux know-how
18:13:13 jgarnett: ah - a very useful page
18:13:46 FrankW: Normally you would put stuff you need under /osgeo/geotools ( for instance ), and you would need an apache conf file under /etc/httpd/conf.d/sites
18:16:24 FrankW: This server has a fairly small disk, and is rather busy at times so try not to be too demanding of it.
18:17:15 mleslie: I'm available to help jgarnett out next week, so I can keep him in line.
18:17:41 mleslie: Though you can likely expect a small flurry of confused emails around then.
18:17:43 jgarnett: not to worry; I am looking a 4 pages; possibly one picking up an RRS feed - nothing scary
18:17:44 FrankW: It seems like some sort of snarky comment should be inserted at this point...
18:18:05 jgarnett: ?
18:18:21 FrankW: ( with regard to keeping jgarnett in line )
18:19:18 jgarnett: what? I thought I was the line
18:19:20 mleslie: Mostly I just need to train him up on bash goodness : )
18:19:24 jgarnett: the line is way more fiun as a moving target
18:19:45 jgarnett: jgarnett = 5 years of solaris all gone!
18:20:56 FrankW: It'll come back!
18:21:18 FrankW: I'm off now but there is usually someone around here who can help with telascience system stuff if there are questions.
18:22:56 jgarnett: thanks muchly
19:02:50 hobu: jgarnett: mapserver's website refresh was to take sphinx's default styling and just use it ; ) We're lazy ( and dumb )
19:02:55 hobu: ( but smart enough to use sphinx ; )
20:04:31 jgarnett: hobu that is interesting
20:04:42 jgarnett: geoserver just went to sphinx for their docs