#OSGEO IRC Log - 2009-05-30

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01:16:20 SmokeyD: wildintellect: you around?
01:16:30 wildintellect: about to sleep but yes
01:16:56 SmokeyD: I just woke up : ) Mind me asking for your opinion once more?
01:17:10 wildintellect: has anything changed?
01:17:32 SmokeyD: not really, I just though that it might be nice to develop the fuinctionality that we are missing in python
01:17:54 SmokeyD: and then if we want to add it to geonetwork or geoserver, compile it with Jython to java bytecode for use in those apps
01:18:05 wildintellect: that's one way to do it
01:18:29 wildintellect: Tyler and I both thought it could simply generate data for those apps and push it to them
01:18:59 wildintellect: I do like the python idea though since I can reuse the code in a desktop app too
01:19:17 SmokeyD: yeah that would be possible as well. But I thought that if you want a webinterface to the code, it might be nicer to include it in pre-existing webapps insdtead of creating a new one
01:19:58 wildintellect: even your way it could be the same, the web part of it is separate from the backend that actually processes the files
01:20:12 wildintellect: so we can toss various frontends on it all we want
01:20:18 SmokeyD: yeah, that is what I thought
01:21:02 SmokeyD: I like geonetwork and geoserver in general. It would be a shame to create an extra frontend if you can use pre-exisint ones. On the other hand it would be great to use the same code not only in those webinterfaces, but also in other apps
01:21:06 SmokeyD: hence the jpython solution
01:21:25 SmokeyD: *jython
01:21:47 SmokeyD: that way you could use the code in both python an java apps
01:22:14 SmokeyD: I'll contact geonetwork and geoserver people. See what they have to say
01:22:43 SmokeyD: wildintellect: thanks for the input and sleep well
01:22:48 wildintellect: ya, I've installed both of those, but it hasn't been clear how to really customize them
01:23:26 wildintellect: their inner workings seem complicated
01:23:37 SmokeyD: ok
01:23:51 SmokeyD: I'll check out the source code on them. See if I can understand it at all : )
01:24:22 wildintellect: on other news I did play more with django today
01:24:29 wildintellect: wow it's pretty easy to use
01:37:15 SmokeyD: wildintellect: ok, cool. I'll check it out too
01:38:45 SmokeyD: wildintellect: the reason I didn't yet is that I had the idea that you have to do everything their way, or forget about Django. The reason I liked pylons ( and turbogears which runs pylons under the hood since version 2 ) is that you can plug in everything you like from templating language, to object-relational mapper, form generation and validation, authentication, etc/
01:39:19 wildintellect: it's not that different
01:39:23 SmokeyD: ok
01:40:12 SmokeyD: wildintellect: can you deviate in Django from the default ORM or the templating engine?
01:40:52 wildintellect: oh probably, I haven't gotten that far
01:41:01 SmokeyD: I'll check it out for myself instead of bothering you with those questions : )