| 08:23:23 | jmckenna: | i need to update files on osgeo.org ( living in /var/www/foss4g/2006 apparently )...can i be provided access? |
| 08:24:44 | jmckenna: | i will file a SAC ticket, sorry for noise |
| 08:36:07 | TylerM: | ping jmckenna |
| 08:36:29 | TylerM: | just fyi - i also started downloading the 2006 site update |
| 08:36:32 | TylerM: | onto osgeo1 |
| 08:36:42 | TylerM: | it's about 10 minutes away to completion. |
| 08:37:38 | TylerM: | FrankW: talk about event news galore this month : ) |
| 08:38:01 | FrankW: | yes, lots going on! |
| 08:38:04 | TylerM: | thanks for posting so many. If you'd like we could open up the form to others to fill, and then we'd just do the final publish step. |
| 08:39:11 | FrankW: | Ideally I'd like to get someone to replace me as lead news editor. The https connections to drupal are dreadfully slow for me. |
| 08:39:19 | TylerM: | ahh |
| 08:39:29 | FrankW: | And it is an activity that pretty much anyone could do. |
| 08:39:46 | TylerM: | i'd like to followup with lorenzo too on doing event posting |
| 08:39:57 | TylerM: | so maybe i'll do an invite to the discuss list for people that might be interested. |
| 08:40:16 | FrankW: | sounds like an idea. |
| 08:40:20 | TylerM: | @seen aghisla |
| 08:40:20 | sigq: | TylerM: aghisla was last seen in #osgeo 1 week, 5 days, 2 hours, 46 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <aghisla> D: |
| 08:40:30 | TylerM: | i think she was interested in helping in one of these ways too |
| 08:40:35 | FrankW: | I see this job as event posts, and news/announcement posts. |
| 08:40:52 | TylerM: | lump them together then? sounds good, since volume isn't too high eh? |
| 08:41:20 | FrankW: | We do have a formally defined "news editor" role already. |
| 08:41:43 | FrankW: | http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/News_Queue |
| 08:41:45 | sigq: | Title: News Queue - OSGeo Wiki ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 08:42:15 | FrankW: | Hmm, that page mentioned an "events manager" as if it is a distinct role. |
| 08:42:18 | TylerM: | ahh cool see the link in there to events too |
| 08:42:32 | FrankW: | Anyways, I think events and news can be handled together. |
| 08:42:37 | TylerM: | heh - or the system is the manager : ) |
| 08:42:45 | TylerM: | i agree.. will dig around for help |
| 08:43:03 | FrankW: | thanks |
| 08:43:57 | FrankW: | You know I'll only be intermittently available over the next 10 days, right? While I'm travelling in China. |
| 08:53:30 | TylerM: | FrankW: ahh, no I didn't - thanks for the heads up |
| 08:53:41 | TylerM: | going for work or pleasure? |
| 08:56:42 | : | * pramsey loves seeing all five foss4g logos on one page : ) foss4g.org |
| 08:57:00 | FrankW: | TylerM, a social visit. |
| 08:58:19 | TylerM: | pramsey: very nice |
| 08:58:34 | pramsey: | the abstract map ribbon thing lives on! |
| 10:26:15 | jmckenna: | TylerM: i reported this weeks ago ( but got no response ) - i had made changes in svn to the foss4g.org files, but the changes were not automagically updated on server ( as apparently they are supposed to ). so i see the changes are there now ( since i guess u updated it manually on osgeo1 server ). can you look into this please? |
| 10:26:33 | jmckenna: | ( since i cannot access the server ) |
| 10:26:42 | TylerM: | ah yes, i set up a script but doesn't seem to work :S |
| 10:26:43 | jmckenna: | merci |
| 10:26:47 | jmckenna: | cool |
| 10:27:24 | TylerM: | did work at one time.. but i'm guessing got some permissions wrong |
| 10:27:55 | jmckenna: | k, it's not pressing. we can leave as is. |
| 10:28:08 | TylerM: | adding those images now though |
| 10:28:21 | jmckenna: | thanks |
| 10:28:29 | TylerM: | it's like 800MB zipped.. yikes : ) |
| 10:28:42 | jmckenna: | whoa |
| 10:28:47 | ajturner: | looking at the MapAction GIS Humanitarian aid field guide: http://www.mapaction.org/content/view/183/59/ |
| 10:28:49 | sigq: | Title: New GIS field guide ( at www.mapaction.org ) |
| 10:28:53 | ajturner: | anything comparable using OSGeo software? |
| 10:29:36 | TylerM: | ajturner: without looking too deeply, i recall something from south pacific island countries hmm... |
| 10:30:06 | ajturner: | there are a lot of people pulling things like QGIS and tools off the shelf |
| 10:30:08 | TylerM: | franck_: was it SOPAC that was developing GIS field guides.. can't remember, just remember you and I were talking about it |
| 10:30:12 | ajturner: | but a guide could get a lot of traction right now |
| 10:30:35 | franck_: | GIS field guide? |
| 10:31:21 | TylerM: | or at least some sort of gis application primer/intro doc. |
| 10:31:28 | TylerM: | Maybe i'm confused with something else : ) |
| 10:31:35 | TylerM: | UNEP perhaps |
| 10:35:10 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [2934]: cleanup big files <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/2934> |
| 10:35:43 | CIA-9: | osgeo: hamish * r2934 /livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_mb-system.sh: cleanup big files |
| 10:36:21 | jmckenna: | ajturner: are you looking for volunteers to help compile an OSGeo field guide, or just looking for existing? |
| 10:36:47 | FrankW: | TylerM: are you doing stuff on osgeo1? |
| 10:36:57 | ajturner: | jmckenna: either |
| 10:36:59 | TylerM: | yeah uncompressing 2006 foss4g files |
| 10:37:06 | ajturner: | this Mapaction guide is beginning to get passed around |
| 10:37:13 | TylerM: | FrankW: i'll renice it |
| 10:37:23 | ajturner: | and seeing that huge uptake in geo - and especially osm - wondered about an OSGeo one |
| 10:37:42 | FrankW: | TylerM: I don't think it's a big problem - just wondering what was spiking things. |
| 10:37:46 | ajturner: | geofabrik has 5-minute updated shapefile exports from OSM that is being used by most governments and NGO's |
| 10:37:51 | ajturner: | FEMA, UN, et al. |
| 10:37:52 | FrankW: | And nicing doesn't usually help much with io congestion. |
| 10:38:13 | TylerM: | ah okay |
| 10:38:14 | jmckenna: | yeah an osgeo/osm guide now would be excellent, and i am sure we could get some volunteers...i would like to help |
| 10:38:24 | TylerM: | sounds good to me too of course : ) |
| 10:38:38 | ajturner: | ok - so you guys can coordinate? |
| 10:38:48 | ajturner: | specifically there are 8+ crisiscamps happening again on Saturday |
| 10:38:49 | TylerM: | FrankW: process complete |
| 10:38:54 | ajturner: | so *something* by then would be super |
| 10:39:07 | ajturner: | e.g. here's how to use QGIS to pull up shapefiles, clean up, and make a map |
| 10:39:22 | ajturner: | or setup GeoServer to host a WFS/WMS |
| 10:39:27 | jmckenna: | oh i thought u were coordinating? i misunderstood...i am not speaking for OSGeo, i am only speaking for myself |
| 10:39:45 | ajturner: | I don't ahve the bandwidth unfortunately : ) already organizing dozens of projects |
| 10:39:52 | TylerM: | i hear ya ; ) |
| 10:40:13 | TylerM: | I think it's best coordinated at a project level |
| 10:40:29 | bitner: | ajturner: we should make sure to have hot wash after the dust clears for the os geo and os geodata folks |
| 10:40:32 | TylerM: | An email on discuss list would probably be enough to get a couple folks prepped |
| 10:41:03 | TylerM: | FrankW: fyi - reviewing finance reports right now |
| 10:41:06 | jmckenna: | but this guide does leverage MapWindow |
| 10:41:15 | jmckenna: | it isn't terrible |
| 10:41:20 | ajturner: | TylerM: I can at least write an email |
| 10:41:23 | ajturner: | which list is best? |
| 10:41:28 | ajturner: | bitner++ |
| 10:41:53 | bitner: | ajturner: I will be happy to help coordinate, but my focus right now is on operational deployment for sahana |
| 10:41:59 | pramsey: | ajturner: what's wrong with the mapaction guide? |
| 10:42:22 | TylerM: | ajturner: i think a note to the discuss@lists.osgeo.org would be good |
| 10:42:58 | ajturner: | pramsey: step 1 - windows only : ) |
| 10:43:02 | ajturner: | re: MapWindow |
| 10:43:03 | ajturner: | right? |
| 10:43:08 | pramsey: | it's mostly generic GIS, and for desktop they use mapwindow, which is open source too... |
| 10:43:26 | jmckenna: | yes mapwindow has presented at foss4g |
| 10:44:15 | bitner: | DoD reqs are really turning to OS and VM based models |
| 10:44:18 | crschmidt: | Looks like MapWindow should run under Mono and Linux |
| 10:44:26 | crschmidt: | er, Linux and Mac* |
| 10:44:34 | crschmidt: | Probably not in that guide, but possible |
| 10:44:35 | vehrka: | pramsey, jmckenna, ajturner as a matter of fact the Spanish Local Chapter begun a translation fo the guide into Spanish |
| 10:44:39 | pramsey: | a one-chapter alternative for chapter 4 with a QGIS section might be nice, but otherwise...? |
| 10:44:59 | crschmidt: | pramsey: extending it to include setting up services for a local WMS, etc. might be useful? |
| 10:45:30 | vehrka: | with the idea of using it as a base to "OSGeoize" it |
| 10:47:02 | vehrka: | ( its a shame it is a discontinued project os Spanish Local Chapter ) |
| 10:47:52 | bitner: | jot down ideas |
| 10:48:14 | bitner: | I would suggest wiki right now -- if we have hotwash with OSGeo folks, Sahana, OSM |
| 10:48:30 | bitner: | will be valuable starting point with very fresh ideas for making something very useful |
| 10:49:38 | : | * crschmidt wonders wth a 'hotwash' is |
| 10:50:37 | bitner: | after situation sit down and talk about what went well what sucked etc |
| 13:51:39 | TylerM: | curious if anyone here has replaced arcpad in their workflow with something open source |
| 13:51:53 | TylerM: | I know several options, but curious more specifically on what they chose and why : ) |
| 14:39:32 | flupke: | hello, I would like to share ( georeferenced ) images from my app with other software, is there something like WMS where you can write things ? or do I have to host a WMS server in my app ? |
| 14:40:32 | flupke: | this is desktop software, so I would prefer a way to send my images to some server |
| 14:52:00 | jmckenna: | pramsey: i'm getting questions from randoms about code sprint in #tosprint ( no one there at this very second ) but maybe u should join also |
| 14:52:44 | jmckenna: | PS. i'm lonely |
| 14:53:24 | flupke: | to be more specific, is there a prefered way or standard to use to share images with other desktop software like arcgis |
| 14:54:59 | flupke: | WMS would be ok, but do I have to write the upload to server code myself ? or is there a standard for that ? |
| 14:55:59 | crschmidt: | flupke: how much data is it? |
| 14:56:12 | flupke: | crschmidt, not much, just low res images |
| 14:56:27 | crschmidt: | flupke: so you could presumably just upload geotiffs to somewhere |
| 14:57:31 | flupke: | crschmidt, yes, so I should setup a web app that serves WMS and handles my uploads to present them in layers or something |
| 14:57:59 | flupke: | I was just asking to be sure there is no software that would already do this for me |
| 14:58:08 | crschmidt: | flupke: no, I'm saying "No WMS" |
| 14:58:12 | crschmidt: | just a directory + ftp |
| 14:58:16 | crschmidt: | ( or even webdav ) |
| 14:58:37 | crschmidt: | flupke: to answer your question, I'm not aware of any piece of software that lets you toss up a file and turns it into a WMS layer for you |
| 14:58:38 | flupke: | it has to be simple to setup in arcgis, and the images are updated often |
| 14:59:58 | flupke: | crschmidt, so WMS seems to be what I need on the server-to-arcgis side |
| 15:01:15 | crschmidt: | flupke: if you want to be able to provide a service that people can configure once and have it be maintained by you, then WMS is the answer, and I'm not aware of anything that really does what you want. |
| 15:01:45 | : | * jmckenna did someone say "arcgis" and "simple" in same sentence? |
| 15:02:07 | crschmidt: | My guess is that GeoServer would be the most likely to have something like a web UI where you can configure another layer for WMS |
| 15:02:17 | crschmidt: | but I haven't actually used GeoServer for rasters ever. |
| 15:03:12 | flupke: | I already have some django code to generate WMS, I'll just have to implement some kind of mapping between the organisation of the images in my app and the WMS layers on the server |
| 15:03:59 | flupke: | crschmidt, thanks for the infos |
| 16:25:39 | wildintellect: | disclaimer, for the end user moving a map to a wms is easy, it's drag & drop in ArcCatalog, setting up the server to begin with not easy |
| 16:27:17 | wildintellect: | possible answer to the question earlier = Mapfish at least that's what they are working on, but I think you still need to go into the site and config the WMS parameters, same as you would for Geoserver |
| 16:29:25 | crschmidt: | mm |
| 16:29:34 | crschmidt: | i don't think mapfish ( the open source project ) is really about that |
| 16:29:44 | crschmidt: | i think it's more about a web application development framework |
| 16:29:50 | crschmidt: | like geodjango in a way |
| 16:33:34 | wildintellect: | not exactly |
| 16:34:01 | wildintellect: | I've watched their beta mapfish studio which is basically a web gui to setup a WMS on their mapfish server |
| 16:34:14 | wildintellect: | the Mapfish client is more of a framework in my mind |
| 16:34:53 | wildintellect: | http://mapfishblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/studio-beta-for-mapfile-manager.html |
| 16:34:54 | sigq: | Title: MapFish: Studio: Beta for the MapFile Manager ( at mapfishblog.blogspot.com ) |
| 22:50:11 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [2935]: add gmt apps to the PATH ( thanks David ) <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/2935> |
| 22:50:30 | CIA-9: | osgeo: hamish * r2935 /livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_mb-system.sh: add gmt apps to the PATH ( thanks David ) |
| 23:00:14 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [2936]: less compiler warnings cluttering up the make log <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/2936> |
| 23:00:21 | CIA-9: | osgeo: hamish * r2936 /livedvd/gisvm/trunk/app-data/mb-system/install_makefiles.Lenny.patch: less compiler warnings cluttering up the make log |