#OSGEO IRC Log - 2010-01-25

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01:14:38 deadroot: hi all
01:14:55 deadroot: does anybody know if there is still a mapguide open source channel going on?
01:15:08 deadroot: #mapguide seems dead
01:28:24 CIA-9: osgeo: alfonx * r2950 /livedvd/gisvm/trunk/ ( 4 files in 3 dirs ): Added Geopublishing software ( Geopublisher and AtlasStyler ) to the DVD. The install script installs geopublishing.deb and geopublishing-doc.deb from the repository http://www.geopublishing.org/repository.
06:50:44 sigq: osgeofeed: Changeset [2951]: add sample data, desktop icon, menu entry <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/2951>
06:52:44 CIA-9: osgeo: hamish * r2951 /livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_opencpn.sh: add sample data, desktop icon, menu entry
06:52:44 CIA-9: osgeo: hamish * r2952 /livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/main.sh: enable geomajas, opencpn
06:52:45 sigq: osgeofeed: Changeset [2952]: enable geomajas, opencpn <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/2952>
08:05:39 ccsidiot: Hey everyone : ) Is this a place to ask question about the building of GEOS library?
08:07:12 springmeyer: ccsidiot: sure, but most relevant room would be #postgis
08:11:56 ccsidiot: springmeyer : ) thanks
11:49:05 jmckenna: totally off topic, but anyone know why FrankW is in China? Is it project-related or for personal?
11:50:34 wildintellect: don't think he ever said
11:50:47 jmckenna: interesting
12:02:26 crschmidt: "In a diversion from my usual programming related geo-geeking, I'm heading to China on January 20th to do some in person, on the ground examination of geography. I will be visiting a friend there, and returning on the 29th. I will be visiting Shanghai, and Fuzhou ( on the coast roughly half way between Shanghai and Hong Kong ). "
12:03:42 jmckenna: wow thanks crschmidt
20:59:32 sigq: osgeofeed: Ticket #466 ( task closed ): further deinteractivate apt-get install <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/466#comment:1>
22:06:01 dodobas: yello
23:14:33 wildintellect: CameronShorter_, did you build an alpha4 - I was just looking for the latest logs on a full build
23:16:55 CameronShorter_: Hello wildintellect, yes I did build a 3.0alpha4 Live DVD.
23:17:34 CameronShorter_: Sorry, my mistake, I built a 3.0alpha3, but not alpha4 yet. ( I've been trying to get the click2try to work today ).
23:19:12 wildintellect: ah ok just wanted to check, I'll probably do a build tonight after I update postgis, openlayers and qgis, but I'll only post the log
23:19:32 wildintellect: I'm not sure it's worthwhile to post the images right now
23:19:45 wildintellect: since so many of the scripts need tweaking
23:20:17 wildintellect: I still haven't updated my server vmware so I'll be able to run the builds but have to copy it off to another machine to test the boots
23:20:38 wildintellect: hopefully I can fix that this week
23:24:21 CameronShorter_: wildintellect, I was thinking that we should get online together and decide what our priorities are for our next release.
23:24:34 wildintellect: sounds like a good idea
23:24:51 CameronShorter_: I notice that Hamish has noted that he wants to clean up the desktop, which sounds like a good idea.
23:25:16 CameronShorter_: I'd like to clean up the scripts and make them consistent.
23:25:24 wildintellect: yes I think we simply ran out of time on the last build to do it
23:25:41 wildintellect: I'm pretty sure we know how to do the menu part
23:26:16 wildintellect: any idea if we're missing an OSgeo projects currently?
23:26:23 CameronShorter_: In particular, I'd like to ensure that we can reproduce a release, and to do that we need to change the way we download files from svn.
23:27:07 wildintellect: ah like create the tag when we start working on a release?
23:27:11 CameronShorter_: ( currently we wget from svn, rather than using the current svn version, which is not reproducible in 6 months or so )
23:27:14 wildintellect: so that it never points to trunk
23:27:44 wildintellect: hmm, I thought we started with an svn command
23:27:52 wildintellect: though I know some of the scripts use wget
23:28:38 CameronShorter_: in the scripts, we do wget http://svn.osgeo/.../xxx.config
23:29:07 CameronShorter_: That always gets the head version of the config file, which will change in 6 months time.
23:29:18 wildintellect: right but we also realized that is redundant with the initial script that does an svn checkout of all the scripts to start
23:29:34 CameronShorter_: Right.
23:29:53 wildintellect: I'm on the same page, not sure if we have a ticket but I have had the same thought
23:30:41 CameronShorter_: There are a number of other small things in the scripts that I'd like to fix too. Like using a consistent naming convention for tmp files.
23:31:07 wildintellect: agreed, I think we starting cleaning that up last round
23:31:07 CameronShorter_: Oh, the other thing I want to address this time around is our Quality Control.
23:31:54 CameronShorter_: I'd like to see test descriptions for every project. They can be manual tests to start with, but we should aim to automate them as much as possible.
23:32:48 CameronShorter_: I would like to improve our documentation, but I think that will have to wait till foss4g 2010 release.
23:32:54 CameronShorter_: We need some lead time for that.
23:33:32 wildintellect: well right, I think this release is focused on getting the straggler projects onto the disc
23:34:19 CameronShorter_: Yes, I do see this as an interim release, low level opportunity to clean a few things up.
23:35:08 CameronShorter_: And to prove to the world that we do have a sustainable community which will continue to put releases out. ( Which will help us get support for foss4g2010 )
23:36:08 CameronShorter_: What time zone are you in? When would be a good time for you to have an IRC meeting with Hamish?
23:36:10 CameronShorter_: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?day=24&month=1&year=2010&p1=179&p2=137&p3=22&p4=240&p4=195
23:36:11 sigq: Title: The World Clock Meeting Planner - Results ( at timeanddate.com )
23:36:25 wildintellect: I'm US Pacific Time
23:36:39 wildintellect: Hamish is New Zealand I think
23:37:14 wildintellect: Los Angeles is a surrogate for me
23:38:40 wildintellect: darkb is also same time zone as me
23:39:10 CameronShorter_: Yes, Hamish is NZ.
23:40:13 CameronShorter_: If we limit participants to Aust/NZ/US, we have quite a wide cross over of times. If we include Europe, I think there is only one timeslot which works:
23:40:36 CameronShorter_: 11am for you.
23:40:49 wildintellect: that's fine with me
23:41:11 wildintellect: unless I happen to have a meeting I have no conflicts at that time
23:43:04 CameronShorter_: Do you have any meetings in the next couple of days?
23:43:20 wildintellect: nope
23:47:16 aaime: Humm... is osgeo svn down just for me? http://svn.osgeo.org/geotools
23:47:29 wildintellect: I noticed it's slow
23:47:40 wildintellect: this is about the usual time when the servers seems to bog down
23:47:56 crschmidt: it means you should go back to bed!
23:47:56 aaime: oh? everybody svn upping? ;- )
23:48:04 crschmidt: no, backups + updatedb
23:48:06 aaime: Hey, I just woke up :- )
23:49:57 crschmidt: working on it
23:51:24 crschmidt: seems like it might have just been excessive load
23:51:34 crschmidt: when i restarted it, we were doing 20 req/s for a bit
23:51:39 crschmidt: which is 4x average
23:51:49 CameronShorter_: aaime, I'm hoping that you would be able to help us with geoserver packaging on the next release of the liveDVD ( or propose someone else who can hold our hand ).
23:51:52 crschmidt: still a bit higher, 30% or so
23:52:04 crschmidt: in other words: looks better now
23:52:09 aaime: CameronShorter, not a chance in hell
23:52:22 aaime: I don't even have spare time to offer this round
23:52:44 aaime: ( last time at least I did not have family troubles )
23:52:53 CameronShorter_: ok, understood, would you like to suggest someone else?
23:53:11 aaime: ask on the mailing list
23:53:19 aaime: or if you want, I can do that for you
23:53:20 CameronShorter_: ok
23:53:37 aaime: but I've heard a lot of "I'm too busy" during the last two weeks
23:53:42 CameronShorter_: Yes, it would be good if you could forward onto the mailing list ( I'm not currently subscribed )
23:54:16 CameronShorter_: I'll write you an email which you can forward on. that ok?
23:54:27 aaime: sure