| 03:04:26 | acuster: | hey all, I just turned on change revisions, deleted something and now I want to keep part of the deleted section. Any pointers? |
| 03:08:18 | : | * crschmidt thinks that perhaps you should mention what software you're talking about? |
| 03:09:33 | : | * acuster is in the wrong channel! |
| 03:09:35 | acuster: | sorry bout that |
| 03:09:36 | acuster: | lol |
| 05:16:13 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [3093]: +libtiff-tools <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/3093> |
| 05:16:35 | CIA-84: | osgeo: hamish * r3093 /livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_grass.sh: +libtiff-tools |
| 08:22:09 | CIA-84: | osgeo: tmitchell * r3094 /marketing/unitone2009/pop-upbanner2.5.pdf: final popup for sydney |
| 08:22:10 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [3094]: final popup for sydney <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/3094> |
| 08:49:21 | spacedman_: | hey guys. does OSgeo have a lawyer? |
| 08:57:31 | rburhum: | What's the issue spacedman_? |
| 08:58:42 | crschmidt: | spacedman_: OSGeo has, in the past, paid a lawyer for time worked on specific tasks. I do not believe that we have a lawyer on retainer in general. |
| 09:00:50 | rburhum: | AFAIK, currently it does have a lawyer for some issues ( like the paperwork for non-profit status and such ) |
| 09:04:23 | spacedman_: | In short: A says: $1000 if someone can fix this bug: B says: ahhh there ya go, fixed in SVN. A: I need it in the release version all OSes! B: heck, you didnt say that! Cash plzkthx A: Nowai! |
| 09:04:58 | FrankW: | Was a contract signed? |
| 09:06:22 | spacedman_: | Nothing signed, but the original statement of A is a unilateral contract. Agreement occurs when B performs the condition ( fixing the bug according to the unilateral contract ). Thing is, the original statement didn't have much in the way of details... |
| 09:06:47 | spacedman_: | This is how lawyers get rich... |
| 09:06:48 | FrankW: | I've skimmed the qgis thread on this issue, and I believe it would be pointless to pursue the matter. |
| 09:07:06 | FrankW: | I would add I avoid working for Greg - he is difficult. |
| 09:07:31 | spacedman_: | Pointless to pursue this individual matter, but are there any more solid frameworks for bug bountying? |
| 09:07:57 | FrankW: | Well, if you are willing to have the overhead you would sign a contract with specific deliverables. |
| 09:08:09 | FrankW: | But even then, for such small amounts, legal enforcement is pretty pointless. |
| 09:08:19 | FrankW: | Better to just satisfy the client or abandon the issue. |
| 09:08:44 | FrankW: | One option would be to have a 3rd party hold the bounty and decide whether the criteria have been reasonably met. |
| 09:08:49 | spacedman_: | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BountyProposals seems just as vague... |
| 09:08:52 | sigq: | Title: BountyProposals - Ubuntu Wiki ( at wiki.ubuntu.com ) |
| 09:08:53 | FrankW: | But you need a fairly trusted 3rd party. |
| 09:11:20 | spacedman_: | I think with the current qgis debate it should be stressed that it's a private contract between the two parties and it probably shouldn't have been brought up in public anyway... |
| 09:12:08 | FrankW: | It does sound like a private arrangement and not a matter for the qgis psc or osgeo to get mixed up in. |
| 09:12:16 | rburhum: | yup |
| 09:12:47 | spacedman_: | Mozilla security bug bounty faq is interesting: http://www.mozilla.org/security/bug-bounty-faq.html |
| 09:12:48 | sigq: | Title: Mozilla Security Bug Bounty FAQ ( at www.mozilla.org ) |
| 09:13:48 | simboss: | anyone here who has admin access to planet.osgeo.org ? |
| 09:13:53 | FrankW: | out of interest, I've also abandoned a small paid task with greg when the requirements seemed to change underneath me, and he had some challenges in a gdal task with Chaitanya. |
| 09:14:06 | FrankW: | simboss: normally mateusz loskot takes care of planet issues. |
| 09:14:13 | FrankW: | I don't even know where it lives. |
| 09:14:32 | simboss: | FrankW: I guess Uk |
| 09:29:48 | : | * hobu wonders why our communities tolerate such a poisonous person as Greg Coats |
| 09:34:31 | simboss: | FrankW: anyone else that you know besides mateusz can admin planet.osgeo? |
| 09:34:53 | crschmidt: | simboss: What do you need/what is the question? |
| 09:34:54 | FrankW: | I'm not sure, you could check the wiki topic about planet.osgeo.org. |
| 09:35:23 | crschmidt: | ( Which is at http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/PlanetOSGeo ) |
| 09:35:25 | sigq: | Title: PlanetOSGeo - OSGeo Wiki ( at wiki.osgeo.org ) |
| 09:35:30 | FrankW: | I see it is actually on osgeo1 or osgeo2 so several of us have access to the system. |
| 09:35:41 | pramsey: | spacedman_: something like http://cofundos.org/ ? |
| 09:35:42 | sigq: | Title: Cofundos.org - community innovation and funding ( at cofundos.org ) |
| 09:36:15 | spacedman_: | ooh cofundus nice... |
| 09:37:51 | simboss: | crschmidt can you join #geosolutions for a sec? |
| 09:39:54 | crschmidt: | I will, but I'll note that I doubt that it will serve any purpose. |
| 09:41:34 | simboss: | crschmidt thx |
| 09:49:03 | pramsey: | bah, cofundos doesn't escrow payment, it's just a notion, not a solutino |
| 09:49:10 | pramsey: | need something more like airbnb |
| 09:55:23 | simboss_: | thx crschmidt |
| 10:05:53 | wildintellect: | etsy is good for commissioned art - there must be some tech sites like it |
| 10:29:36 | danmo: | I started thinking about the need for an "eBay for bug fixes" a few weeks ago... more or less what cofundos.org seems to be aimed for, but with a mechanism for dispute resolution. I did a bit of research and found a list of "hire a developer" type of sites, see http://pastebin.ca/1790448 |
| 10:29:37 | sigq: | Title: pastebin - Miscellany - post number 1790448 ( at pastebin.ca ) |
| 10:30:07 | danmo: | I didn't really dig much deeper than compiling the list of sites |
| 10:30:31 | danmo: | I actually compiled the list based on info found at http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/DotNet/misc/CompetitorInformation/WhyRentACoder_ForBuyers.aspx |
| 10:30:34 | sigq: | Title: Why choose Rent A Coder ( for buyers )? Compare it to elance, guru, odesk, freelancer and other sites in the industry ( at www.rentacoder.com ) |
| 10:31:01 | wildintellect: | interesting would you mind posting the list to OSGeo-discuss |
| 10:31:34 | danmo: | err... not sure if we should be making publicity for them there |
| 10:32:57 | wildintellect: | well you're merely suggesting we look into them for our purposes |
| 10:33:10 | wildintellect: | and asking if anyone in the community has used any of them |
| 10:33:28 | danmo: | That was just an FYI to complement the discussion from about an hour ago |
| 10:34:56 | danmo: | Sorry if this sounded like I was asking something... I was not... just sharing some info in case that helps anyone |
| 10:35:14 | wildintellect: | no, I understood your intentions |
| 10:36:15 | wildintellect: | and was thinking about just sharing it wider - not all parties involved in the current discussion/issue are online right now |
| 10:37:09 | danmo: | I agree the audience here is small... |
| 10:50:22 | spatialguru: | simboss_: i also can admin planet.osgeo.org - but mainly as a backup : ) |
| 12:49:27 | whyANN: | hello all |
| 13:08:50 | crschmidt: | What does "Right to First Sponsorship Selection for the Annual OSGeo International Conference |
| 13:08:54 | crschmidt: | " mean? |
| 14:16:45 | FrankW: | crschmidt: it means the organization in question has first crack at being a foss4g sponsor at their chosen level. |
| 14:17:10 | FrankW: | Some years we have strictly limited numbers of sponsors at each level in which case it could be considered to be strategic to have first crack at high sponsorship levels. |
| 14:17:18 | FrankW: | ( though I consider this wishful thinking on our part! ) |
| 14:42:12 | crschmidt: | FrankW: Gotcha. |
| 14:44:48 | FrankW: | http://veryspatial.com/2010/02/a-veryspatial-podcast-episode-238/ - this week is with Chris Holmes and Paul Ramsey! |
| 14:44:52 | sigq: | Title: A VerySpatial Podcast Episode 238 - VerySpatial ( at veryspatial.com ) |
| 14:54:35 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Ticket #530 ( task closed ): DNS Entry for 2003.foss4g.org <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/530#comment:13> |
| 16:12:33 | CIA-84: | osgeo: camerons * r3095 /livedvd/gisvm/trunk/desktop-conf/ ( 3 files ): Added sleave artwork |
| 16:12:36 | sigq: | osgeofeed: Changeset [3095]: Added sleave artwork <http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/changeset/3095> |
| 17:04:50 | wildintellect: | anyone recall how to make the pink Draft banner at the top of a wiki page? |
| 18:41:38 | flupke: | anyone knows a palette ready to use for coloring maps ? ( i.e. a 256 colors palette with colors sufficiently different to differentiate zones, doesn't need to be pretty :D ) |
| 18:52:05 | wildintellect: | how many zones |
| 18:52:17 | wildintellect: | Colorbrewer is a great tool to help pick colors |
| 18:52:34 | wildintellect: | but they basically say you shouldn't do more than 10 |
| 18:53:10 | wildintellect: | http://colorbrewer2.org/ |
| 18:53:11 | sigq: | Title: Colorbrewer: Color Advice for Maps ( at colorbrewer2.org ) |
| 18:53:30 | flupke: | wildintellect, no more than 256 zones ( I know I could use 4 colors but that would be more complex to implement ) |
| 18:59:38 | flupke: | wildintellect, there are enough infos on the colorbrewer page for me to generate one, thanks |
| 18:59:48 | wildintellect: | well the reality is that so many unigue colors will be almost impossible for someone to understand |
| 19:00:29 | flupke: | wildintellect, they are not meant to be understood, it's just for previewing computer generated content |
| 19:00:42 | wildintellect: | you'll notice how world maps tend to reuse the same colors as long as its not the same as it's neighbor |
| 19:01:06 | wildintellect: | so really you only need more colors than the maximum number of neighbors |
| 19:01:57 | flupke: | yes, I think 4 colors are enough for any map, but the algorithm to do this automatically is certainly not trivial |
| 19:03:38 | flupke: | 16 hues * 16 saturation should give good enough results |
| 20:56:57 | spatialguru: | crschmidt: thx for mentioning that right of first sponsorship... we need to remind LOC of that :S |