#SAHANA IRC Log - 2008-11-01

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00:01:46 subhodip: arindam, administration as in techie কি হবে
00:02:23 ajuonline: subhodip: administration as in "Sahana application's administration"
00:03:04 subhodip: yes
00:03:17 ajuonline: ok
00:04:12 arindam: subhodip: নিয়ন্ত্রন maybe..it can be better
00:07:58 subhodip: arindam, authentication ==পরিচয় প্রমাণ প্রক্রিয়া :P
00:08:15 arindam: LOL
00:16:44 Rajesh_Ranjan: gora jee, Namaste!
00:17:02 gora: Rajesh_Ranjan: Namashkar, sir.
00:20:27 ajuonline: net again gone down
00:26:02 Rajesh_Ranjan: gora jee, my son is jumping on head...and telling me to give laptop to him for playing online spidy games : )
00:26:45 nursix: :D You can't imagine what my kids here do...
00:27:05 ajuonline: ha ha
00:27:07 nursix: Baby eating the cables from the router...grrrrr....
00:27:30 nursix: I should place it higher.
00:27:38 gora: Rajesh_Ranjan: Heh! Show him the KDE games. Ravikant's daughter loves tjose.
00:28:34 Rajesh_Ranjan: gora, ok : )
00:30:18 ajuonline: junk being multicast on the network
00:30:47 : * nursix will play with the kids for a while, returns at 9:30 UTC
00:31:00 ajuonline: i am still out of network
00:33:01 Rajesh_Ranjan: so karunakar jee only two are remaining
00:33:13 Rajesh_Ranjan: ajuonline, any one of the 2 u r doing
00:34:08 ajuonline: rajesh i am out of internet
00:34:21 ajuonline: nandeep has comf
00:34:29 ajuonline: come
00:34:38 Rajesh_Ranjan: okay gr8
00:35:06 ajuonline: and we are trying to get internet working in server room
00:35:24 Rajesh_Ranjan: okay...
00:35:35 ajuonline: so u pls proceed
00:35:44 karunakar: ok, today is session at sarai?
00:37:56 ajuonline: me and nandeep at sarai and graydot joining in here
00:38:36 ajuonline: apart from that online bangla team is working
00:38:56 ajuonline: amd rajesh me for hindi
00:39:11 ajuonline: i am on my cell
00:44:41 : * subhodip has a powercut ..brb
00:50:31 : * arindam goes for lunch..brb
01:03:14 Prakhar: Hi guys!!
01:03:21 Prakhar: How is it going?
01:03:32 maktrix: going for lunch ( late thoug0
01:03:59 Prakhar: oh, nice!
01:06:01 ajuonline: hi
01:06:40 ajuonline: prakhar we are trying to fix sarai's ndt
01:06:45 ajuonline: net
01:06:50 Prakhar: ajuonline: he he
01:07:01 ajuonline: where are u?
01:07:24 Prakhar: ajuonline: at home. unexpectedly guest arriving in few minutes
01:07:37 ajuonline: u coming? here
01:08:02 ajuonline: me nandeep and graydot are here
01:08:19 Prakhar: ajuonline: I was about to leave buddy. Just now mom told: "Where are you going, guests coming in 10mins" :(
01:08:31 ajuonline: ah ok np
01:08:39 Prakhar: ajuonline: yo
01:09:06 Prakhar: ajuonline: sarai is a nice place, I hope you enjoy the "shaanti"
01:09:32 ajuonline: yes
01:09:54 ajuonline: this is my second visit here
01:10:06 Prakhar: ajuonline: oh, cool!
01:12:29 ajuonline: seems we are dead
01:12:37 Prakhar: ajuonline: why
01:12:44 ajuonline: not workin
01:12:49 Prakhar: oh
01:12:52 Prakhar: :(
01:17:51 ajuonline: ah ok
01:17:56 ajuonline: connected my cellphone to the pc now
01:18:06 ajuonline: got the data cable from someone here
01:18:11 ajuonline: i forgot mine back home :-/
01:18:21 ajuonline: so i am back to roll :P
01:18:29 Prakhar: ajuonline: he he
01:18:30 Prakhar: nice
01:19:10 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: workng on any files?
01:19:12 ajuonline: karunakarg: you?
01:19:39 ajuonline: suchodip was working offline?
01:19:41 ajuonline: arindam: ^
01:20:18 arindam: ajuonline: hope so...in his lappy maybe
01:20:22 Rajesh_Ranjan: not now, taking lunch...
01:20:29 ajuonline: ok
01:20:40 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: ah ok. that reminds. i should order my lunch too :P
01:20:44 Rajesh_Ranjan: coming in 30 minutes then tell me, what is left
01:21:09 ajuonline: ok np
01:21:34 ajuonline: Prakhar: can you help with the review?
01:21:48 Prakhar: sure
01:21:55 ajuonline: maktrix: there?
01:22:00 nursix: when everybody is going for lunch, I'm starting the first build today and will update the Pootle, ok?
01:22:07 ajuonline: nursix: sure
01:22:14 ajuonline: nursix: except me all are gone for lunch
01:22:21 ajuonline: nursix: so i suppose you can start it
01:22:25 nursix: Please do not submit for hi_IN for the next 5 minutes.
01:22:29 ajuonline: i am setting up sahana locally.
01:22:40 ajuonline: now that i got back internet working on my pc
01:22:45 ajuonline: i need to setup translation offline
01:24:33 ajuonline: nursix: url of test install of sahana?
01:24:51 nursix: my installation?
01:25:13 nursix: https://edrs.nursix.org/dmsdemo
01:25:14 ajuonline: nursix: yes
01:25:15 ajuonline: ok
01:25:16 sigabrt`: Title: Sahana FOSS Disaster Management System ( at edrs.nursix.org )
01:25:40 nursix: username: sahana password:anahas01
01:33:58 nursix: server update in progress...
01:34:46 nursix: done.
01:35:22 nursix: Added kartik to Gujarati, and set translate+review permissions
01:35:36 ajuonline: ok thank you
01:35:40 ajuonline: he has left
01:35:50 ajuonline: and he is travelling tomorrow. so i suppose he will get back later
01:35:56 maktrix: ajuonline: i'm back
01:36:01 maktrix: ajuonline: went for lunch
01:36:07 nursix: You can go on now, I will do another update in 2-3 hours.
01:37:00 ajuonline: maktrix: ok. file 3 is yours. : )
01:37:40 maktrix: ajuonline: already translated 112 out of 325
01:37:42 nursix: Took 12 minutes to download, review, correct, merge, upload the PO files, compile the MO files and install hi_IN update to the demo.
01:37:53 maktrix: ajuonline: shall I mail to you, before any build
01:38:23 nursix: maktrix: send it to me
01:38:25 ajuonline: maktrix: mail on the list
01:38:34 ajuonline: or to nursix yes
01:38:40 nursix: :D
01:38:57 nursix: ajuonline, you're the boss.
01:39:00 ajuonline: i prefer the mailing list : )
01:39:21 nursix: ml will reach me as well, okay.
01:39:24 ajuonline: that way we have a public record of individual contributions : )
01:39:52 nursix: ah yes, that's a good point!
01:41:10 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: "Sahana Home" should be "Sahana Mukhya" ?
01:41:15 ajuonline: instead of "ghar" ?
01:41:33 maktrix: ajuonline: nursix: mailing is the best option for any Open Source project
01:42:16 nursix: maktrix: Yeah, right.
01:42:30 nursix: That's what we have it for.
01:43:15 maktrix: arindam: same strings are coming repeatedly in the same ( sahana 3.0 ) file; is it okay, or I've problem with my poEdit?
01:44:31 nursix: maktrix: this is not possible in proper PO files.
01:45:57 nursix: check your PO file with an editor, if it shows one and the same message string more than once, it is not compliant.
01:46:31 nursix: But it could be that the strings differ in details, though - e.g. white space, lower/uppercase.
01:46:43 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: we are left with sahana-2 and 7
01:47:37 maktrix: nursix: I've checked if there is any minor ( underscore or spaces ) differences
01:48:06 nursix: maktrix: And is not?
01:50:14 maktrix: nursix: checking again to be confirmed
01:52:43 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: रिप‹र्ट whats the plural of this?
01:53:00 maktrix: nursix: naaaah, it's big file. I don't want to spare my time searching glitches, better translate and will mail the po file in the list.
01:53:22 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: नमूना रिप‹र्टें उत्पन्न करें this sentence sounds correct?
01:53:37 nursix: maktrix: It's okay, will be corrected automatically when merging.
01:55:13 maktrix: nursix: yeap, I was thinking this
01:57:30 Rajesh_Ranjan: shd be रिप‹र्ट only
01:57:42 ajuonline: ok
01:58:41 ajuonline: hi baali
01:58:49 baali: ajuonline, hello
01:58:53 ajuonline: goto http://translate.sahana.lk
01:58:54 sigabrt`: Title: Sahana Online Translation ( at translate.sahana.lk )
01:58:55 ajuonline: sign up
01:59:39 : * nursix will go shopping now, will return in an hour or so.
01:59:51 ajuonline: nursix: ok : )
02:00:15 ajuonline: now how do i identify which file contains that string which needs to be changed :P
02:00:18 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: ^
02:00:54 ajuonline: Prakhar:
02:01:06 ajuonline: Prakhar: have you logged in to the online demo?
02:01:14 Prakhar: ajuonline: nahi yaar
02:01:20 Rajesh_Ranjan: ajuonline, please!
02:01:25 Rajesh_Ranjan: ajuonline, pl tell
02:01:43 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: ?
02:01:49 ajuonline: Prakhar: https://edrs.nursix.org/dmsdemo
02:01:52 sigabrt`: Title: Sahana FOSS Disaster Management System ( at edrs.nursix.org )
02:02:16 ajuonline: Prakhar: scroll up for user pass. i cant scroll up :P
02:02:16 Prakhar: ok
02:02:35 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: is there a way to find the string we are looking for to make changes to?
02:03:35 Rajesh_Ranjan: ajuonline, u want to know where any atring is located or what ...I am not understanding
02:04:07 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: yes i mean the error which we identified just now
02:04:15 ajuonline: how do i locate which PO files contains that string to make the changeS?
02:04:24 Rajesh_Ranjan: just one min
02:05:47 ajuonline: Hindi is now 86%
02:06:03 Rajesh_Ranjan: ajuonline, its the 14th string of sahana 7
02:06:11 ajuonline: bn_IN is 1%
02:06:20 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: ok thanks
02:06:28 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: you back? we have 2nd and 7th left
02:06:38 Rajesh_Ranjan: if you have kbabel you can find
02:06:56 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: i dont have it. i shall get it now.
02:08:41 Prakhar: ajuonline: bhaiya I'm not on Linux right now
02:10:15 ajuonline: Prakhar: you dont need that?
02:10:27 ajuonline: Prakhar: you need a browser. thats it :P to review
02:10:31 ajuonline: the install
02:10:31 Prakhar: ajuonline: ok
02:14:20 ajuonline: arindam: kothaye?
02:16:47 baali: ajuonline, i am doing it now can you see any of them??
02:17:07 ajuonline: baali: hang on
02:17:34 ajuonline: baali: how are you doing ?
02:17:57 baali: online
02:18:02 baali: wait
02:18:57 ajuonline: baali: did you choose Hindi in your account?
02:18:59 ajuonline: My Account
02:19:15 baali: yep wait
02:21:06 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: you are on which file?
02:21:11 baali: 7 right
02:23:20 Rajesh_Ranjan: I currently I am not doing any file
02:23:24 Rajesh_Ranjan: because ppl are trying to do online
02:23:27 Rajesh_Ranjan: if anything become i will complete after this sprint...on monday-tuesday
02:23:44 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: only baali doing now.
02:23:50 ajuonline: so you can go ahead choose one of the files
02:23:55 ajuonline: internet here not working
02:24:02 ajuonline: 2 people are sitting idle :-/
02:24:07 ajuonline: and i am reviewing
02:30:18 Rajesh_Ranjan: they are at sarai
02:30:53 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: yes
02:31:25 Rajesh_Ranjan: ajuonline, then please give them the files to work offline
02:31:33 Rajesh_Ranjan: aither on kbabel or poedit
02:31:37 ajuonline: 7
02:31:39 Rajesh_Ranjan: s/either
02:31:56 ajuonline: http://translate.sahana.lk/hi/sahana062/sahana-7.po
02:32:08 ajuonline: baali: file 2
02:32:17 ajuonline: baali: have you got it working?
02:32:17 baali: ajuonline, okay
02:32:24 baali: yeah
02:32:36 baali: i was on 7 earlier but now on 2
02:32:55 baali: here i am getting dc from gmail again and again so it is very slow
02:33:34 Rajesh_Ranjan: ajuonline, if they are so interested that they came there to contribute...please help them to do so
02:34:00 Rajesh_Ranjan: any way I am here always and will complete it anyway
02:34:20 Rajesh_Ranjan: like all other files I did last weeks
02:35:10 Rajesh_Ranjan: if any problem in setting up poedit or kbabel let gora, karunakarg know
02:35:17 Rajesh_Ranjan: they will help you
02:35:41 gora: Rajesh_Ranjan: Sure, but whom are we talking about? ajuonline ?
02:36:45 Rajesh_Ranjan: gora, just ajuonline told that 2 ppl are sitting there but unable to work
02:37:01 Rajesh_Ranjan: so I suggested him to do so
02:37:58 gora: Rajesh_Ranjan: Ah! I am sure that they are capable of installing kbabel themselves.
02:38:09 gora: ajuonline: Still net problems at Sarai?
02:38:29 Rajesh_Ranjan: gora, ok
02:39:10 Rajesh_Ranjan: but just sometime before ajuonline told that he is not having kbabel in his machine
02:40:12 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: i just installed it
02:40:29 Rajesh_Ranjan: ok cool
02:40:49 ajuonline: gora: yes. nitin said, he is coming to fix.
02:40:57 ajuonline: but i suppose it will be late by then
02:41:02 : * ajuonline just ordered his lunch
02:41:56 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: we are newbie translators :P dependednt on the online transliteration engine of google
02:42:02 ajuonline: using kbabel for the first time
02:42:13 gora: ajuonline: Hmm, sorry about that.
02:46:09 Rajesh_Ranjan: okay, then its a problem
02:46:10 ajuonline: gora: its ok : ) stuff beyond our control
02:46:20 ajuonline: gora: the server is acting mad
02:46:36 ajuonline: we shut down all pcs then also packets are multicasting like anything
02:46:42 gora: ajuonline: Eh? Which server?
02:46:46 ajuonline: and we restarted and things are not working
02:46:49 ajuonline: fothe gateway
02:46:55 ajuonline: gora: the gateway*
02:47:30 gora: ajuonline: Yeah, the IT infrastructure at Sarai is getting pretty bad.
02:47:31 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: i suggest if you can, lets finish off the 2 left over files
02:47:41 ajuonline: and we can review it slow
02:47:53 ajuonline: that can be done by us as well
02:48:03 ajuonline: on an ongoing basis
02:48:22 ajuonline: ravukant would be back by then and assist with the review then?
02:48:25 ajuonline: ravi*
02:50:30 Rajesh_Ranjan: its 2000 words approx remaining for both the two files
02:50:38 Rajesh_Ranjan: okay I am doing Part 2: 71 strings ( 1076 words, av. 15 per string ), suggested priority
02:50:39 Rajesh_Ranjan: rank: 5, est. effort: 4 hours
02:50:58 Rajesh_Ranjan: so work on Part 7: 49 strings ( 892 words, av. 18 per string ), suggested priority
02:50:59 Rajesh_Ranjan: rank: 4, est. effort: 3 hours
02:51:06 ajuonline: ok
02:51:13 : * ajuonline is working on file 7 now
02:52:20 Prakhar: got to leave
02:52:23 Prakhar: ajuonline: later
02:52:27 Prakhar: ajuonline: bye
02:52:32 ajuonline: baali: hang on
02:52:57 baali: ajuonline, ???
02:55:09 ajuonline: so me gets to file 7
02:55:12 ajuonline: and baali reviews
02:55:18 ajuonline: Rajesh_Ranjan: is working on file 2
02:55:26 ajuonline: where is the BN team?
02:55:36 ajuonline: arindam: dada kothay?
02:56:36 ajuonline: check
02:59:03 ajuonline: subhodip: you were doing offline?
02:59:20 subhodip: ajuonline, yes
02:59:28 subhodip: i am using kaider
02:59:47 ajuonline: subhodip: how far done?
03:00:15 subhodip: i guess i did only 30 strings so far
03:00:26 ajuonline: ok arindam is lost :P somewhere
03:02:00 subhodip: eh
03:05:17 subhodip: For BN team ..if one wants help ..he can get at http://bengalinux.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/anubadok/index.pl
03:05:18 sigabrt`: Title: Anubadok Online:: The Bengali Machine Translator ( at bengalinux.sourceforge.net )
03:05:39 subhodip: very basic but effective
03:06:26 ajuonline: subhodip: but one should be able to read bengali right : )
03:06:36 ajuonline: we cant blidnly trust the MT :P
03:06:40 ajuonline: i dont do that with the bot
03:06:43 ajuonline: i use transliteration
03:06:47 ajuonline: and type it myself
03:07:26 subhodip: ajuonline, thats for reference .
03:07:44 subhodip: after all transliteration is the one thats good
03:12:27 : * ajuonline goes for lunch
03:12:29 ajuonline: brb
03:12:38 ajuonline: yeah i know now you dont call that lunch at this time :P
03:18:32 subhodip: district as in ??
03:22:31 maktrix: ajuonline: sorry, damn powercut
03:24:37 maktrix: status: bn_( BN/IN ) sahana 3.0 total strings - 325, translated - 132; untranslated - 193
03:27:01 nursix: ajuonline: enough progress to run a new build?
03:29:21 ajuonline: subhodip: district as in "jila" in hindi
03:29:25 ajuonline: or "zila"
03:29:30 ajuonline: nursix: not yet
03:29:39 : * ajuonline just got back from lunch
03:29:48 subhodip: ok ....
03:30:13 nursix: ajuonline: okay, then later - what's the time at your site? ( here=12:30 )
03:30:49 ajuonline: 5 pm
03:30:49 Rajesh_Ranjan: जिला
03:32:32 ajuonline: maktrix: its ok. how is the progress?
03:32:55 Rajesh_Ranjan: I am qutting now, will send you this file asap
03:33:06 subhodip: ajuonline, 67 strings translated
03:33:13 Rajesh_Ranjan: bye
03:33:21 ajuonline: subhodip: send mail to the list
03:33:26 ajuonline: i mean the file
03:33:40 subhodip: ajuonline, in pot format?
03:33:53 ajuonline: nursix: ^
03:34:17 maktrix: ajuonline: doing more... on Sahana 3.0
03:35:03 ajuonline: maktrix: ok
03:35:10 maktrix: ajuonline: please merge all translated files ( subhodip+arindam+mine ) into bn_Bd
03:35:16 nursix: subhodip: a PO file, if it contains translations. A PO template ( =POT ) doesn't contain translation.
03:35:29 nursix: maktrix: my turn
03:35:49 subhodip: nursix, ok
03:36:06 ajuonline: maktrix: send it to the list
03:36:10 ajuonline: nursix: will do it
03:36:37 nursix: ajuonline: you will merge them?
03:36:41 maktrix: ajuonline: today I've translated 136, want to make it 150
03:37:08 ajuonline: nursix: no i meant " nursix will do it"
03:37:09 ajuonline: : )
03:37:17 maktrix: ajuonline: and then will mail to the list ( sahana-localization@googlegroups.com? )
03:37:26 ajuonline: maktrix: yes please
03:45:14 ajuonline: nursix: when rajesh sends the new file i suppose we can merge
03:45:39 ajuonline: the network admin has come.. so probably the network should work now
03:50:28 nursix: ajuonline: ok
03:51:33 : * nursix is gonna sleep a little
03:54:23 ajuonline: nursix: thank you : )
03:54:29 ajuonline: you can rest
03:54:39 ajuonline: for sure :P
03:55:45 ajuonline: maktrix: thanks for the file : )
03:58:18 maktrix: bye, got to go, wife waiting. need to take her to the doctor.
03:58:34 ajuonline: maktrix: thank you. it was nice having you at the sprint
03:58:36 maktrix: pray for me guys, l hope the doctor would give me good news : )
03:59:08 ajuonline: and getting some bn translation kicked out today : )
03:59:18 ajuonline: maktrix: good news will be there for sure : )
03:59:49 maktrix: ajuonline: thanks ajay. bye for now
04:02:32 nursix: ajuonline: please drop a note on mak, he has attached file 6 instead of 3
04:03:18 ajuonline: ah ok
04:03:41 nursix: Ok all, see you later for merge and update.
04:03:49 ajuonline: nursix: i will just reply to his email
04:04:14 nursix: ajuonline: In case of any urgent server problems, send me an SMS.
04:05:34 ajuonline: subhodip: can we set a target to be achieved today before calling it off?
04:05:40 ajuonline: of bn_IN ?
04:06:18 subhodip: subhodip, i guess
04:06:20 subhodip: yes
04:06:34 ajuonline: subhodip: how much should we finish today for bn_IN?
04:06:44 ajuonline: here internet is not working. so we will call it off for today
04:06:49 ajuonline: as I have to travel back.
04:06:59 ajuonline: i will resume on it after reaching my place
04:07:08 subhodip: maktrix did some 188 ,me 65, arindam .no idea
04:07:14 ajuonline: hmmm
04:07:14 ajuonline: ok
04:15:45 ajuonline: subhodip: i am gonna leave the venue now
04:15:56 subhodip: ok
04:15:58 subhodip: np
04:16:07 ajuonline: we need to close down
04:16:10 ajuonline: : )
04:18:33 ajuonline: subhodip: we shall continue and a regular basis now
04:18:37 ajuonline: and get stuff done : )
04:18:58 gora: ajuonline: Could you post a short summary of the work done today to the ilugd list? I have been too busy in other things to keep track of this.
04:19:07 subhodip: ok ..i guess that will be great
04:19:12 ajuonline: gora: yes. I will do it after reaching back ?
04:19:17 ajuonline: probably by night time
04:19:21 gora: ajuonline: Sure, no hurry. Thanks.
04:19:34 ajuonline: gora: nandeep is cursing the internet tho :P
04:19:48 ajuonline: gora: we had fun here though : )
04:20:11 ajuonline|off: bbl see you
04:20:38 gora: ajuonline|off: Cool. Bye
21:51:18 mano: you r
23:37:12 timMcNamara: hi all, anyone online?
23:42:28 ajuonline: timMcNamara: hi tim
23:43:14 timMcNamara: hello
23:44:00 ajuonline: how are you doing?
23:44:07 timMcNamara: i'm good
23:45:00 timMcNamara: learning linux, php and ruby on rails at the same time though
23:45:38 ajuonline: you are into Usability if I am right?
23:45:51 timMcNamara: that's correct
23:46:09 timMcNamara: i would like to assist with the documentation a lot
23:46:39 timMcNamara: i feel there is section of the wiki we could create, "supervisor's guide" or something similiar
23:47:07 timMcNamara: something that would seperate the user docs from the more administrative features
23:47:08 ajuonline: have you posted your thoughts on the mailing list for others to comment?
23:47:21 ajuonline: i suppose there is something like this already on the wiki
23:47:56 timMcNamara: i see. this is why i have been quite quiet
23:48:22 timMcNamara: because i am try to learn as much as i can
23:48:30 timMcNamara: before i start making lots of suggestions
23:48:41 timMcNamara: about things that probably already exist
23:49:04 timMcNamara: my professional background is with New Zealand's Ministry of Civil Defence & Emergency Management
23:49:21 timMcNamara: i have worked in their National Crisis Management Centre for several events
23:49:52 timMcNamara: mainly storms and such like
23:50:14 ajuonline: ok...
23:51:17 timMcNamara: i feel there is very strong potential for sahana to be pre-deployed throughout local and central government here
23:51:45 ajuonline: it is already pre-deployed by few governments. in NYC for e.g
23:51:56 timMcNamara: but, i am no longer involved at that level
23:51:59 ajuonline: i think hcc was invovled with the deployment
23:52:04 timMcNamara: i see
23:52:12 timMcNamara: it makes perfect sense
23:52:30 ajuonline: he works with IBM i suppose
23:53:16 timMcNamara: *nod*
23:53:22 timMcNamara: how is your Sunday going?
23:54:10 ajuonline: so far so good.. just woke up a while back.
23:54:19 ajuonline: have t owork on the documentation of my openmoko/sahana project
23:54:37 ajuonline: from the usability point of view
23:54:47 ajuonline: i am trying to find out what aspects should i be considering
23:55:04 ajuonline: i am to preapre a set of questionnaire for data collection
23:55:09 ajuonline: to include in my research
23:55:13 timMcNamara: i see
23:55:21 timMcNamara: openmoko seems like a great system as well
23:55:50 timMcNamara: i was considering buying one, but i have no idea how to connect it to the local providers
23:56:02 ajuonline: its an unlocked phone
23:56:07 ajuonline: you just need a GSM sim card
23:56:16 ajuonline: which country are you in?
23:57:12 timMcNamara: New Zealand
23:57:20 ajuonline: ok
23:57:21 timMcNamara: I use a GSM sim
23:57:47 ajuonline: so that is all you need : )
23:57:57 timMcNamara: okay
23:58:12 timMcNamara: when i next upgrade my phone, i'll get an openmoko
23:58:28 ajuonline: ok
23:58:42 ajuonline: but it is more like a developer phone at the moment : )
23:59:59 timMcNamara: it seems that way