| 00:00:31 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1599 ( bug created ): WMS and WFS problems with GeoServer <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1599> |
| 01:54:52 | steko: | hi |
| 01:55:10 | steko: | is the georef in trunk working ? |
| 01:55:14 | steko: | I have a problem |
| 01:55:34 | steko: | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/109978/ |
| 01:55:37 | sigq: | Title: Paste #109978 | LodgeIt! ( at paste.pocoo.org ) |
| 02:03:18 | zikzak: | Good morning |
| 02:04:40 | zikzak: | I have to question concerning QGIS. |
| 02:10:30 | zikzak: | First: Using some WMS sources I tried to view the maps at a scale about approximately 1:5000, but the scale shown in the status line at the bottom is far, far away from that value. Why? |
| 02:14:37 | steko: | zikzak: did you define a project CRS ? |
| 02:16:31 | zikzak: | I chose a CRS at Settings / Project Properties / Coordinate Reference System ( CRS ) - is that enough? |
| 02:17:45 | zikzak: | Second: In the Print Composer window values entered for the scale are not accepted or changed. |
| 02:20:25 | timlinux: | hi |
| 02:20:40 | timlinux: | @seen giohappy |
| 02:20:41 | sigq: | timlinux: giohappy was last seen in #qgis 16 hours, 26 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <giohappy> see you, and thanks... |
| 02:26:57 | zikzak: | steko: Grazie for your hint -- I found the solution: I had to change the map units from "Decimal degrees" to "Meters". Seems this solved both problems. |
| 02:27:23 | steko: | zikzak: you're welcome! : ) |
| 02:48:20 | zikzak: | Is it possible to change the ( center of the ) view of the map to a certain coordinate? I did not found an edit field for this. |
| 02:49:40 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1600 ( bug created ): georeferencer fails with Critical error <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1600> |
| 02:49:48 | steko: | zikzak: you might try the "bookmark feature" |
| 02:49:54 | steko: | not sure |
| 02:52:39 | zikzak: | steko: I did found that. But I have a coordinate pair written down, and I want to change the view of the map to that coordinates. |
| 03:10:01 | macho: | steko: cant reproduce the georeferencer problem -it works fine here |
| 03:10:11 | steko: | macho: :( |
| 03:11:13 | macho: | probably youre missing a dep library? |
| 03:11:49 | steko: | macho: ,.. which one ? |
| 03:11:52 | steko: | and why ? |
| 03:12:38 | macho: | dont know - it's just a guess |
| 03:13:37 | steko: | macho: it should have complained at compile time if there's a missing library ... right ? |
| 03:14:27 | macho: | hmm - not necessarily |
| 03:14:52 | timlinux: | steko: are you having a compile problem? |
| 03:15:06 | macho: | if its not an essential thing - it just ignores it .. and compiles without the feature |
| 03:15:09 | steko: | timlinux: no, a bug in the georef |
| 03:15:18 | steko: | https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1600 |
| 03:15:20 | sigq: | Title: #1600 ( georeferencer fails with Critical error ) - Quantum GIS - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 03:16:01 | macho: | oh steko you're right - i recompiled it and now i get the same error in console |
| 03:16:25 | steko: | macho: great! ( well.. not so great actually... but at least you can confirm the bug ) |
| 03:16:41 | macho: | but maybe you only have to set a coordinate system .. |
| 03:17:41 | steko: | macho: I have one defined in my project |
| 03:18:20 | macho: | hmmm .. |
| 03:20:38 | macho: | yeah - definitely something going wrong - i choose left bottom corner als 0/0 and i get left upper corner as 0/0 |
| 03:22:19 | steko: | macho: can't tell what's going wrong.. but for sure it doesn't generate the .wld file |
| 03:22:55 | macho: | ACK |
| 03:23:12 | macho: | i'll try it with the old stable the same way |
| 03:24:32 | macho: | ok |
| 03:24:36 | macho: | stable is working .. |
| 03:24:49 | macho: | so there is a bug in georeferencer plugin in current trunk |
| 03:25:03 | timlinux: | @seen gsherman |
| 03:25:03 | sigq: | timlinux: gsherman was last seen in #qgis 13 hours, 2 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <gsherman> jaundiced jaberwocky? |
| 03:25:35 | steko: | macho: there has been some work in the georef recently, I think |
| 03:26:03 | macho: | at least between stable and trunk the gui has been reworked |
| 03:26:14 | macho: | but stable is working .. |
| 03:27:07 | steko: | macho: just the GUI ? |
| 03:27:09 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1601 ( bug created ): qgis crashes when "zooming out" <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1601> |
| 03:27:17 | steko: | this doesn't look like a GUI problem .. |
| 03:30:37 | epifanio: | i just tried it on a tif + TFW, using both linear or helmert method .. now it generate a tfw .. but it is wrong |
| 03:31:14 | epifanio: | again .. tring to sovrave the generated layer to have a new one .. qgis crash |
| 03:31:59 | epifanio: | *sovrave -> rewrite |
| 03:35:29 | macho: | steko: its definitely not only a gui problem .. |
| 03:40:45 | epifanio: | hummm |
| 03:41:00 | epifanio: | i tried on a different tif file |
| 03:41:06 | epifanio: | and now it works |
| 03:41:16 | epifanio: | weird! |
| 03:41:29 | steko: | epifanio: your file had a tfw already ? |
| 03:41:41 | steko: | I'm trying to georeference a scanned map ( no tfw ) |
| 03:42:24 | epifanio: | i've a file.tif + .tfw on my desktop . then i copied the same file ( without .tfw ) in a different directory |
| 03:42:46 | epifanio: | and i used the file without .tfw in the georeferencer load-file dialog |
| 03:44:00 | steko: | epifanio: ah |
| 03:45:37 | steko: | I've tried again, also giving fake points at corners.. and it still fails |
| 03:46:54 | epifanio: | look that the same procedure on the first file .. now works it too |
| 03:47:16 | epifanio: | yes, maybe is a "corner" problem .. click on on data :- ) |
| 03:48:50 | : | * epifanio isn't a terrorist ... the georeferencer works ;- ) |
| 03:55:09 | CIA-56: | wonder * r10434 /trunk/qgis/ ( 4 files in 3 dirs ): added icon for plugin installer in plugin manager |
| 03:55:11 | sigq: | tracfeed: Changeset [10434]: added icon for plugin installer in plugin manager <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10434> |
| 05:20:57 | CIA-56: | mhugent * r10435 /trunk/qgis/src/app/qgisapp.cpp: display layer name for WMS layers instead of server to distinguish several layers from the same WMS |
| 05:21:42 | CIA-56: | mhugent * r10436 /trunk/qgis/src/plugins/georeferencer/qgspointdialog.cpp: fix for georeferencing with linear transformation |
| 05:28:57 | timlinux: | jef: you about dude? |
| 05:29:30 | jef: | timlinux: what's up? |
| 05:32:13 | timlinux: | jef Im trying to fix the final error with msvc build |
| 05:32:23 | timlinux: | can you remember from the hackfest? |
| 05:32:32 | timlinux: | a linking error with pyqt4 |
| 05:32:48 | timlinux: | doing a bit of googling, it seems others had the same issue |
| 05:32:56 | timlinux: | http://forum.qgis.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4569&p=7526&hilit=pyqt4#p7526 |
| 05:32:57 | sigq: | Title: Quantum GIS Forum View topic - 1.0.1 plug in problem on WinXP ( at forum.qgis.org ) |
| 05:32:59 | doktoreas_: | hi folks |
| 05:33:04 | timlinux: | but using your osgeo4w build |
| 05:33:14 | timlinux: | Im wondering if that can offer us any clues |
| 05:33:23 | timlinux: | hi doktoreas_ |
| 05:33:26 | doktoreas_: | today I had a GIS course using QGis..got some troubles with actions |
| 05:33:28 | doktoreas_: | hi timlinux ! |
| 05:33:50 | timlinux: | your actions are out of action? |
| 05:33:53 | doktoreas_: | yep |
| 05:34:00 | timlinux: | how did the course go? |
| 05:34:05 | doktoreas_: | clicking one make qgis crash |
| 05:34:09 | doktoreas_: | oh, very nice |
| 05:34:13 | timlinux: | in stable? |
| 05:34:17 | timlinux: | or trunk? |
| 05:34:18 | doktoreas_: | 0.11 |
| 05:34:23 | timlinux: | ouch |
| 05:34:28 | doktoreas_: | people is happy with Qgis |
| 05:34:39 | timlinux: | can you replicate in 1.0.1? |
| 05:34:44 | timlinux: | maybe its already fixed |
| 05:34:47 | doktoreas_: | timlinux, using osgeo4w? |
| 05:34:55 | jef: | timlinux: is your path also cluttered with lots of non-osgeo4w things? |
| 05:35:06 | timlinux: | or the recently posted mingw build |
| 05:35:12 | timlinux: | jef no |
| 05:35:29 | timlinux: | jef 1 sec Ill show you what mine says |
| 05:35:40 | jef: | timlinux: that post has a separate python install and another qgis install. |
| 05:35:42 | timlinux: | ['C:/Program Files/qgis1.0.2/./python', 'C:/Documents and Settings/Administrator/.qgis//python/plugins', 'C:/Program Files/qgis1.0.2/./python/plugins', 'C:\\Program Files\\qgis1.0.2\\bin\\python25.zip', '.\\DLLs', '.\\lib', '.\\lib\\plat-win', '.\\lib\\lib-tk', 'C:\\Program Files\\qgis1.0.2\\bin'] |
| 05:35:46 | doktoreas_: | timlinux, I'll let you know about actions in 1.0.1 |
| 05:35:55 | timlinux: | jef: right |
| 05:36:07 | timlinux: | and she gets the same symptoms as mine |
| 05:36:25 | timlinux: | let me tripple check that I have no other python installed |
| 05:36:38 | doktoreas_: | timlinux, it's a "social" course..the fee is low and part of the ammount will be donated to QGis |
| 05:36:46 | timlinux: | doktoreas_: nice |
| 05:36:49 | doktoreas_: | at the end of the course :D |
| 05:37:06 | timlinux: | doktoreas_: you should post a story to http://blog.qgis.org |
| 05:37:07 | sigq: | Title: Quantum GIS Blog | Dev-Speak and other QGIS Ramblings... ( at blog.qgis.org ) |
| 05:37:24 | timlinux: | its always nice to see what folks are up to |
| 05:37:43 | doktoreas_: | you can do a 20 hourse course and people pay about 100€ |
| 05:37:49 | doktoreas_: | *hours |
| 05:38:03 | doktoreas_: | I got the fuel amount and the rest go for developers |
| 05:38:08 | doktoreas_: | I think we can promote those things |
| 05:38:32 | timlinux: | doktoreas_: very nice |
| 05:38:51 | timlinux: | we are having another course for qgis here in Johannesburg soo |
| 05:38:55 | timlinux: | soon |
| 05:39:00 | doktoreas_: | nice |
| 05:39:17 | timlinux: | will be only a basic fee to cover costs |
| 05:39:31 | doktoreas_: | same here.. |
| 05:39:44 | doktoreas_: | the extra will go for developers |
| 05:39:44 | timlinux: | jef Im searching my hd for python.dll |
| 05:39:58 | doktoreas_: | tim is there any news on the standalone 1.0.1 installer? |
| 05:40:13 | timlinux: | doktoreas_: Im busy working on it right now |
| 05:40:19 | timlinux: | there was a mingw one announced |
| 05:40:25 | timlinux: | but its missing grass and python |
| 05:40:38 | timlinux: | so I didn't post it to download site yet |
| 05:41:16 | doktoreas_: | for me would be fine :D |
| 05:41:21 | jef: | timlinux: did you check site-packages/PyQt4/QtCore.pyd with depends? |
| 05:41:37 | timlinux: | no let me do that |
| 05:41:39 | timlinux: | 1 sec |
| 05:41:54 | doktoreas_: | ti I was thinking...if we prepare the materials for a course: slideshow, setup, sample data and we host it on the official site |
| 05:42:07 | timlinux: | doktoreas_: that would be great |
| 05:42:07 | doktoreas_: | we can promove this sort of found raising |
| 05:42:17 | timlinux: | maybe we can translate it to eng |
| 05:42:25 | timlinux: | will save us some work |
| 05:42:29 | timlinux: | for the course we do |
| 05:42:38 | doktoreas_: | would be nice |
| 05:42:58 | doktoreas_: | just an introduction course..I'll think about |
| 05:43:12 | doktoreas_: | c u later |
| 05:43:25 | simgislab: | doktoreas_: do you have course program somewhere available? |
| 05:43:47 | simgislab: | we're thinking about developing a qgis-based course too |
| 05:44:03 | doktoreas_: | simgislab, it's in italian, but I can translate for you |
| 05:44:18 | simgislab: | would be great! |
| 05:44:30 | timlinux: | jef my QtCore.pyd is under c:\progfiles\qgis1.0.2\python\PyQt4 |
| 05:45:51 | timlinux: | jef looks like it misses msvcr80.dll |
| 05:46:02 | timlinux: | I remember we played around with that dll |
| 05:46:55 | jef: | timlinux: still using 2005? did you install the vcredist package for 2005? |
| 05:47:14 | timlinux: | yes and yes iirc |
| 05:47:22 | timlinux: | let me double check on second |
| 05:47:40 | timlinux: | note above was looking for 2008 dll thoguh |
| 05:47:49 | timlinux: | so maybe I need the vcredist for 2008? |
| 05:48:25 | jef: | timlinux: you need that anyway. but that would be msvcr90.dll |
| 05:48:42 | jef: | timlinux: qt and pyqt are build with 2008. |
| 05:50:07 | timlinux: | ok adding msvcr80 and msvcp dlls into qgis 1.01 dir make dep walker happy |
| 05:50:18 | : | * timlinux tries to launch |
| 05:50:40 | timlinux: | gah |
| 05:50:48 | timlinux: | let me try with msvcr90 |
| 05:51:17 | : | * timlinux thinks he should just google for every dll in existance and add it into his bin dir :- ) |
| 05:53:24 | jef: | timlinux: I'm not sure that'll suffice. You might still need the assemblies in place to get the dlls to work. |
| 05:53:42 | timlinux: | Ill download the redist for msvc2008 |
| 05:53:44 | timlinux: | ? |
| 05:54:20 | timlinux: | can you remind me of how you addressed this in osgeo4w? |
| 05:55:16 | jef: | timlinux: the msvcrt package installs the redist package |
| 05:55:51 | jef: | timlinux: so it's in the tar.bz2 you already should have. |
| 05:56:37 | timlinux: | is it installed with a scope local the osgeo4w dir rather than system wide? |
| 05:58:28 | jef: | no |
| 06:00:41 | timlinux: | so then shouldn't my build already see the msvcrt package since osgeo4w is installed |
| 06:01:50 | FrankW: | I would think so, for the version of of msvcrt installed by the redist. |
| 06:02:24 | timlinux: | FrankW: hi |
| 06:02:30 | FrankW: | hi |
| 06:03:46 | doktoreas: | timlinux: the actions problem is also on 1.0.1 |
| 06:04:17 | timlinux: | doktoreas: ok |
| 06:08:27 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1315 ( bug reopened ): "Actions" in qgis do not work on MS windows <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1315#comment:4> |
| 06:17:26 | timlinux: | jef: hmm stll no joy |
| 06:18:09 | timlinux: | I ran the redist.exe from in that msvcrt tarball |
| 06:18:19 | timlinux: | and for good measure dropped the dlls it contains into my bin dir |
| 06:23:55 | jef: | timlinux: before or after you found that it was not working? |
| 06:24:23 | timlinux: | before |
| 06:24:36 | timlinux: | Ill remove them aagain and see what happens |
| 06:25:20 | timlinux: | ok same thing without those dlls |
| 06:28:24 | jef: | timlinux: and depends is still happy? what about QtGui? |
| 06:28:35 | timlinux: | let me check |
| 06:32:03 | timlinux: | so going through them all again: |
| 06:32:15 | timlinux: | qgis.exe has only ? dwmapu.dll, shlwapi.dll and mpr.dll |
| 06:32:24 | timlinux: | next qtgui: |
| 06:33:07 | timlinux: | same as above |
| 06:33:13 | timlinux: | qtcore: same as above |
| 06:33:23 | timlinux: | checking pyd's now... |
| 06:35:51 | timlinux: | qtgui.pyd complains msvcp80.dll and msvcr80.dll are missing |
| 06:38:15 | jef: | timlinux: odd. directly? |
| 06:38:34 | timlinux: | how do you mean 'directly' ? |
| 06:39:09 | timlinux: | qtcore.pyd has same complaint |
| 06:40:22 | timlinux: | if I add those dlls to the c:\program files\qgis1.0.2 |
| 06:40:22 | jef: | timlinux: qtgui.pyd should only link with r90. if there is a dependency to r80 that must be in some dll it depends on. I don't have that here. |
| 06:40:25 | timlinux: | \bin dir |
| 06:40:31 | timlinux: | then the issue gies away |
| 06:40:39 | timlinux: | goes |
| 06:41:01 | timlinux: | jef: hmm that's odd |
| 06:41:19 | timlinux: | I'm using the same dlls as you here I thought |
| 06:42:09 | jef: | timlinux: me too. where is the r80 dependency? look into the tree. |
| 06:42:23 | timlinux: | looking |
| 06:46:56 | timlinux: | c:\program files\qgis1.0.2\bin\QTCORE4.DLL |
| 06:48:30 | jef: | timlinux: did you rebuild qt? |
| 06:48:36 | timlinux: | note that if I open QtCore4.dll it doesn't show that missing dependency |
| 06:48:41 | timlinux: | nope |
| 06:48:58 | jef: | timlinux: http://buten.norbit.de/~jef/QtGui.txt is what I get |
| 06:53:28 | timlinux: | jef how did you get that text dump? dwi image? |
| 06:53:52 | jef: | timlinux: no, save as, and then text |
| 06:57:21 | timlinux: | jef: http://rafb.net/p/BwboOk91.html |
| 06:57:22 | sigq: | Title: Nopaste - No description ( at rafb.net ) |
| 06:57:23 | timlinux: | and |
| 07:01:13 | timlinux: | http://rafb.net/p/SiKJNw77.html |
| 07:01:14 | sigq: | Title: Nopaste - No description ( at rafb.net ) |
| 07:07:08 | jef: | timlinux: hm, looks like it's replacing r90 with r80 for you. did you also install 2008 redist package? |
| 07:07:35 | jef: | got to go. be back in an hour or two. |
| 07:09:05 | timlinux: | jef I think so yes |
| 07:09:16 | timlinux: | jef ok - I have to go out too - Ill be back later |
| 07:09:28 | timlinux: | thanks |
| 08:30:29 | macho: | hi gsherman |
| 08:30:36 | gsherman: | hi macho |
| 08:31:51 | macho: | any news in alaska? |
| 08:31:53 | macho: | ; ) |
| 08:32:13 | gsherman: | volcano has been erupting this week, air travel is a mess |
| 08:33:05 | gsherman: | http://avo.alaska.edu/activity/Redoubt.php |
| 08:33:06 | sigq: | Title: Alaska Volcano Observatory - Redoubt - Activity Page ( at avo.alaska.edu ) |
| 08:33:07 | macho: | a yes - i heard it somewhere - but you're not going by airplane anyway if i'm correctly informed .. |
| 08:33:23 | gsherman: | right, but i have people coming here : ) |
| 08:33:55 | gsherman: | went to the airport last night and there where hundreds of bags that came in but the people were still stranded elsewhere |
| 08:34:19 | macho: | where did the bags come from? |
| 08:34:57 | gsherman: | seattle - the airlines are stuffing the few planes that do make it in with as many bags as they can, while the people sit waiting to get on one of the few planes... |
| 08:35:41 | macho: | strange .. i always thought people are travelling _with_ their bags |
| 08:36:23 | gsherman: | they do, except when 100 flights get cancelled the airlines don't know which flight the people have been rebooked on so they just get the bags on a plane to the destination, regardless |
| 08:36:43 | gsherman: | all very messy |
| 08:37:29 | macho: | so it's better to stay at home for now .. |
| 08:37:43 | gsherman: | yes |
| 08:45:50 | gsherman: | hmm, only 223 errors building trunk in xcode |
| 08:50:22 | macho: | hmm do you know how i can find out the diff between revision 10435 and current which marko did to georeferencer? |
| 08:50:32 | macho: | svnlookup diff? |
| 08:50:32 | gsherman: | hmm, installing spatialite stuff didn't help much, now have 242 |
| 08:50:40 | gsherman: | svn diff with revision switch |
| 08:51:25 | macho: | thx - but what is svnlookup for? |
| 08:51:49 | gsherman: | svnlook or svnlookup? |
| 08:52:07 | macho: | there is another command? |
| 08:52:21 | macho: | svnlook |
| 08:52:46 | gsherman: | svnlook lets you poke around in a repo without checking out any sources |
| 08:53:42 | gsherman: | so you could do it with svnlook, but svn diff is probably easier |
| 08:53:55 | gsherman: | ( since you don't need to specify the repo path ) |
| 08:54:06 | macho: | i tried with svnlook with no luck .. with svn it's been easy |
| 08:55:10 | jef: | macho: hi. I'd use trac. http://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset |
| 08:55:11 | sigq: | Title: Changeset 10436 - Quantum GIS - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 08:56:09 | macho: | jef: trac is one of the things i'll never get into my mind : ) |
| 09:33:23 | simgislab: | hi all, does qgis have anything for querying shapefile? or postgis only? |
| 09:33:55 | gsherman: | simgislab, you can select from the attribute table |
| 09:39:56 | simgislab: | hmm, and how did I miss that ... |
| 09:41:19 | simgislab: | gsherman: thanks |
| 10:00:38 | CIA-56: | macho * r10437 /trunk/qgis/src/plugins/georeferencer/qgspointdialog.cpp: bringing back decoration to georeferencer plugin - can someone look after it because this is my first alone C commit |
| 10:02:42 | macho: | didnt do very much except searching for the right point .. but i'm not quite sure if the fix is correct for all OS |
| 10:19:08 | CIA-56: | kyngchaos * r10438 /trunk/qgis/mac/xcode/Qgis.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: Add default plugin installer icon ( sync with r10434 ) |
| 10:19:08 | sigq: | tracfeed: Changeset [10438]: Add default plugin installer icon ( sync with r10434 ) <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10438> |
| 11:57:53 | simgislab: | jef: hi, did you compile grass ( 6.4RC3 ) for osgeo4w? |
| 11:58:36 | jef: | simgislab: yes |
| 12:25:19 | frostel: | good evening |
| 12:26:41 | macho: | evng |
| 12:27:01 | frostel: | anybody volunteering to answer a newbie-question ;- ) |
| 12:27:32 | jef: | shoot |
| 12:27:47 | frostel: | hi jef, |
| 12:28:00 | macho: | depends on the question ; ) |
| 12:28:52 | frostel: | I'm coming from the CAD-world and wonder how it's possible to do something like drawing a rectangle with knwon dimensions at a known location |
| 12:29:06 | frostel: | I couldn't find anything about this in the doc |
| 12:29:32 | frostel: | or placing the nodes of a polygon at certain coords not just by mouse |
| 12:29:58 | macho: | sound like something we discussed in the wishlist at FOSSGIS |
| 12:30:46 | frostel: | I can't believe that all drawing currently happens by free hand |
| 12:32:18 | frostel: | aren't there any plugins or workarounds? |
| 12:34:56 | macho: | you mean to set a point at a definded point? |
| 12:35:08 | frostel: | yes, for a start |
| 12:36:31 | macho: | hmm - somebody said something about a plugin - but i'm not sure .. but .. GIS is not a CAD at all |
| 12:38:29 | jef: | frostel: it's currently targeted to allow digitizing. so you have some kind of raster that you click along to build vector data. |
| 12:40:00 | frostel: | okay, apparently I'm using the wrong kind of software. Is there any OSS CAD-app which allows me to keep the geo-ref and work with referenced aerials? |
| 12:46:38 | macho: | ACAD Map |
| 12:46:47 | macho: | but no OSS i guess |
| 12:48:08 | simgislab: | jef: we were struggling with internationalizing grass to make use of existing PO files and it seems that there might be a problem with missing --with-nls support in the current build. Is it possible? |
| 12:48:36 | jef: | simgislab: yes. rc3 was compiled without nls |
| 12:49:08 | simgislab: | jef: ah, that's why our localization doesn't work! any plans to update it? |
| 12:50:07 | jef: | simgislab: well, there are also some more problems. I'd like to have some python problems sorted out first. |
| 12:50:22 | simgislab: | by GRASS crowd? |
| 12:50:57 | jef: | simgislab: yes. I think martinl is on it. |
| 12:53:52 | frostel: | is there at least a way to rotate polygons? |
| 12:56:06 | CIA-56: | macho * r10439 /trunk/qgis/src/plugins/georeferencer/ ( plugin.cpp qgspointdialog.cpp ): moved decorations problem ( seems related to metacity ) to the right place and did ( hopefully ) the right thing with it |
| 12:58:01 | simgislab: | jef: ok, thanks for info, do you think I should bug martin more about this or you're in sync? |
| 13:02:05 | jef: | simgislab: there are a few people building grass on windows now - so I think there will be more and more things sorted out. |
| 13:04:25 | jef: | markusN: hi. do you know if martinl is working on reproducing the wxvdigit/wxnviz on osgeo4w? |
| 13:04:41 | jef: | markusN: I think he is on it - but I don't have a status. |
| 13:04:54 | markusN: | nor me |
| 13:05:07 | markusN: | but wxnviz is really LOW priority |
| 13:05:16 | markusN: | it's "just" a prototype |
| 13:05:30 | markusN: | with respect to all the other fixes recently done |
| 13:06:11 | jef: | markusN: same for wxvdigit? |
| 13:06:58 | markusN: | try to catch him in chat right now |
| 13:09:13 | markusN: | ok he's working on that |
| 13:09:23 | markusN: | higher priority |
| 13:14:20 | simgislab: | is this the only thing that is holding RC4 or there are some more? |
| 13:15:01 | markusN: | well, I would like to see a successful run on osgeo4w before putting out RC4 |
| 13:15:21 | markusN: | otherwise we publish RC4 and it still fails a lot and then we need imemdiately RC5 and so on |
| 13:15:42 | simgislab: | sounds good to me |
| 13:15:54 | markusN: | we have fixed a lot since RC3, just we need the binaries to test it |
| 13:16:10 | : | * markusN failed to cross compile in Linux |
| 13:18:42 | : | * timlinux wonders in |
| 13:18:52 | : | * macho says hello to timlinux |
| 13:18:57 | CIA-56: | macho * r10440 /branches/Version-1_0/i18n/ ( 28 files ): several translation updates to stable.. |
| 13:19:04 | timlinux: | hiya macho |
| 13:19:11 | : | * markusN waves |
| 13:19:42 | macho: | seems we are bringing 1.0 slowly to useable multilingual |
| 13:19:43 | sigq: | tracfeed: Changeset [10440]: several translation updates to stable.. <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10440> |
| 13:19:46 | timlinux: | hi markusN |
| 13:20:01 | timlinux: | macho: sterling job! |
| 13:20:14 | macho: | but i need more translators .. |
| 13:20:23 | macho: | or i have to learn a lot of languages ; ) |
| 13:20:25 | markusN: | timlinux: to bad that I missed to meet you in my former home town... |
| 13:20:29 | : | * timlinux fires up vmware to smack the windows build a bit more |
| 13:21:00 | timlinux: | markusN: yeah sorry - it would have been great to have you there at the hackfest |
| 13:21:09 | markusN: | yeah my bad |
| 13:21:10 | simgislab: | macho, we gonna bring you a whole team, just release it |
| 13:21:20 | markusN: | but too busy here |
| 13:21:22 | timlinux: | markusN: we made a bunch on silly videos etc during the hackfest |
| 13:21:29 | timlinux: | http://blog.qgis.org |
| 13:21:31 | sigq: | Title: Quantum GIS Blog | Dev-Speak and other QGIS Ramblings... ( at blog.qgis.org ) |
| 13:21:48 | markusN: | seen that, still to look at them |
| 13:23:08 | timlinux: | markusN: think of it as a fall back if your tv ever breaks down |
| 13:23:12 | timlinux: | :- ) |
| 13:23:29 | markusN: | oh my TV is still in the shop : ) have none |
| 13:23:38 | markusN: | say when the kid sleep |
| 13:23:42 | markusN: | kids |
| 13:23:54 | timlinux: | :- ) |
| 13:23:55 | markusN: | kids^3 |
| 13:24:14 | timlinux: | or if you want to put them to sleep you could play them |
| 13:24:17 | timlinux: | :- ) |
| 13:24:27 | markusN: | yeah |
| 13:24:34 | markusN: | after midnight |
| 13:24:40 | timlinux: | jef you back around? |
| 13:24:52 | jef: | timlinux: yes. |
| 13:25:04 | timlinux: | any further thoughts on this stupid linking issue? |
| 13:25:16 | timlinux: | other than that it's a stupid issue |
| 13:25:55 | timlinux: | and whoever designed windows should be forced to use MS-DOS for the rest of their days.... |
| 13:26:22 | timlinux: | jef: I guess my next stop is to build my own Qt4 and sip and pyqt libs |
| 13:26:43 | timlinux: | though I was really hoping to be able to make good use of the libs in osgeo4w |
| 13:28:30 | timlinux: | jef: it would also be nice to add QtTest.dll into osgeo4w so we can run unit tests |
| 13:28:37 | jef: | timlinux: maybe it's best to switch to 2008. that we at least don't have to deal with r80 and r90. and it looks like on your system it uses r80 instead of r90 which it should. |
| 13:29:16 | timlinux: | jef are you thinking upgrade or install on a clean system? |
| 13:29:28 | jef: | timlinux: um, therefore we'd have to rebuild qt? |
| 13:29:55 | timlinux: | oh I thought you may have the dll already built but not packaged in osgeo4w |
| 13:30:06 | timlinux: | or add it as a separate lib |
| 13:30:24 | timlinux: | since its use is limited to a niche audience |
| 13:31:20 | jef: | timlinux: so it's not installed by default. checking. |
| 13:32:18 | jef: | timlinux: what's wrong with QtTest4.dll? |
| 13:33:33 | timlinux: | my full install of osgeo4w didn't seem to get it |
| 13:33:42 | timlinux: | let me double check |
| 13:34:00 | timlinux: | ah |
| 13:34:09 | timlinux: | sorry I made a typo in my last search |
| 13:36:06 | macho: | wow another language update - must be weekend |
| 13:36:33 | CIA-56: | macho * r10441 /branches/Version-1_0/i18n/ ( 28 files ): another update and rework with update script. |
| 13:37:18 | jef: | macho: still ahead of borys? |
| 13:37:19 | sigq: | tracfeed: Changeset [10441]: another update and rework with update script. <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10441> |
| 13:37:33 | macho: | jef: borys lost something during the last update .. |
| 13:37:50 | macho: | anyone made a few new translation strings .. dont know where they come from |
| 13:40:13 | simgislab: | can I raise one more old topic? https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1354 |
| 13:40:15 | sigq: | Title: #1354 ( Ambiguous GUI label "Capture" for map editing tools ) - Quantum GIS - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 13:40:19 | macho: | oh - my language .. somebody - not anyone .. = ) |
| 13:40:32 | timlinux: | simgislab: urf that one again? |
| 13:40:39 | simgislab: | Can this be finally fixed or rejected? ; ) |
| 13:40:54 | simgislab: | I can't see it anymore in our translation |
| 13:40:55 | timlinux: | just call it digitise in your translation |
| 13:41:11 | simgislab: | Our translator refuses |
| 13:41:18 | timlinux: | oh? |
| 13:41:53 | macho: | oh?? |
| 13:42:25 | simgislab: | He says "capture" = "something in russian", we say yes, but this is like 20 years old, he says, well qgis is using it, so I translate it this way |
| 13:42:50 | timlinux: | simgislab: the problem is capture is perfectly good english |
| 13:43:05 | timlinux: | and 1.0 we should avoid string changes if poss |
| 13:43:16 | simgislab: | but even in grass plugin it is "New" not "Capture" |
| 13:43:22 | timlinux: | since changing it impacts on many manuals etc |
| 13:43:34 | simgislab: | yes, I understand |
| 13:43:50 | simgislab: | well, not a big deal |
| 13:44:11 | timlinux: | I can close it with 'won't fix' if you like |
| 13:44:23 | timlinux: | and / or we can change the string in trunk |
| 13:45:01 | macho: | at least it IS a new point - but capture for "collecting data" is the perfect english word for it |
| 13:45:11 | timlinux: | http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/data+capture |
| 13:45:12 | sigq: | Title: data capture - Hutchinson encyclopedia article about data capture ( at encyclopedia.farlex.com ) |
| 13:46:38 | simgislab: | well, I'm not native speaker, but data capture sounds like little more than just digitizing? |
| 13:47:07 | macho: | but in GIS it is indeed data capture |
| 13:48:15 | timlinux: | simgislab: when you create a new feature you indeed do more than just digitising |
| 13:48:22 | timlinux: | remember there are two parts |
| 13:48:27 | timlinux: | draw the geometry |
| 13:48:32 | simgislab: | yes, filling attribute table is data capture too |
| 13:48:33 | timlinux: | complete the attribute form |
| 13:49:17 | simgislab: | but if we switch off pop-up attribute table, ( with our latest patch : ) is this not data capture anymore? |
| 13:49:18 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1475 ( enhancement closed ): Crash on opening project after moving GRASS-GISDBASE <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1475#comment:2> |
| 13:49:54 | : | * markusN remembers http://geodictionary.osgeo.org |
| 13:50:28 | jef: | simgislab: ha, I managed to resist to bring that up. ; ) |
| 13:50:52 | simgislab: | nobody is saying that the term is not good, it's just sound little ambigouos? |
| 13:51:09 | timlinux: | markusN: that dictionary is missing the word capture! :-( |
| 13:51:25 | simgislab: | : ) |
| 13:51:57 | markusN: | that dictionary is missing a lot |
| 13:52:18 | simgislab: | Markus, can you remind how digitizing instruments are called in grass? |
| 13:52:18 | jef: | simgislab: what's the alternative interpretation to "create" for "capture"? |
| 13:52:40 | timlinux: | don't even get me started on the fact that they call digitise an alternate spelling to digitize -> I would have thought that digitize is an alternate spelling to digitise :- ) |
| 13:53:24 | simgislab: | that's why "create" or "new" is much better : ) btw shorter |
| 13:53:39 | timlinux: | simgislab: I'm inclined to close the bug as won't fix, and leave it to translators to select the most appropriate word for their lang |
| 13:54:04 | simgislab: | sure, white flag ; ) |
| 13:54:19 | timlinux: | :- ) |
| 13:54:22 | jef: | capture the flag. |
| 13:54:24 | macho: | at least in english it is correct |
| 13:54:30 | timlinux: | jef heh |
| 13:55:00 | simgislab: | : ) |
| 13:55:05 | timlinux: | simgislab: what was that other patch you mentioned - I think you pasted the wrong link |
| 13:55:12 | timlinux: | the no table popup link |
| 13:56:02 | simgislab: | I didn't paste a link actually, that was the one to switch _annoying_ pop-up table while data capturing : ) |
| 13:56:31 | simgislab: | http://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1498 |
| 13:56:33 | sigq: | Title: #1498 ( Switch pop-up attributes window on and off ) - Quantum GIS - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org ) |
| 13:57:08 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1354 ( enhancement closed ): Ambiguous GUI label "Capture" for map editing tools <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1354#comment:5> |
| 13:57:22 | timlinux: | simgislab: by the way quite a lot of people still use digitising tables |
| 13:57:44 | simgislab: | timlinux: noooo : ) |
| 13:59:04 | simgislab: | even back in my country you won't find any for like 6-7 years |
| 14:02:03 | macho: | is the patch integrated? |
| 14:02:46 | timlinux: | http://www.flickr.com/photos/timlinux/3392743419/ <-- taken during my visit in Switzerland last week |
| 14:02:47 | sigq: | Title: Digitising table....some folks still use em! on Flickr - Photo Sharing! ( at www.flickr.com ) |
| 14:02:55 | timlinux: | macho: I believe it is |
| 14:03:06 | macho: | Applied to trunk in r9995. Thanks! |
| 14:03:27 | macho: | but i cant find the button |
| 14:03:52 | timlinux: | http://www.flickr.com/photos/timlinux/3392743419/ <-- simgislab taken during my visit in Switzerland last week |
| 14:03:53 | sigq: | Title: Digitising table....some folks still use em! on Flickr - Photo Sharing! ( at www.flickr.com ) |
| 14:04:33 | macho: | wheres the button hidden to switch off the question after every click? |
| 14:04:41 | simgislab: | is QGIS for some folks with digitizing tables? : ) |
| 14:04:54 | simgislab: | macho: try prefs\digitizing |
| 14:05:06 | timlinux: | simgislab: I'm just waiting for someone to submit a patch :- ) |
| 14:06:11 | macho: | simgislab: thanx - iÃÃ've expected it to pop up with the first popup window - some kind like "use this attribute for all upcoming points" |
| 14:07:45 | macho: | simgislab: is it possible to put it there too? |
| 14:08:21 | macho: | and using the attribute given there for all captured features? |
| 14:08:49 | simgislab: | macho: hmm, not sure, I guess it is possible, but will still require a way to turn it back on |
| 14:09:36 | macho: | of course - when you finish capturing and want to capture the next features .. then it should pop up again asking for the next attribute |
| 14:12:22 | macho: | probably bringing up the dialog with the right mouse button ?? |
| 14:13:43 | simgislab: | hmm, I'm not sure this is better, people are either like to enter attributes while digitizing...er...capturing data, or don't. I suggest we leave it as it is right now as a parsimonious solution and change it to something more adaptive in the future if there a need. |
| 14:14:57 | macho: | but what attribute does the data have i capture without entering a attribute? nothing? - or do you mean i can change this later in the attribute table? |
| 14:16:17 | simgislab: | if you switch off pop-up table, than there is no value or it is the default one. |
| 14:16:35 | macho: | but lets adume you capter streets and ways .. |
| 14:17:05 | simgislab: | and want to enter values after each line? |
| 14:17:30 | simgislab: | then you turn it on in prefs |
| 14:18:02 | macho: | but only with points .. ( to be later connected ) - wouldn't it be nice to enter street name after first point - close with last point ( right mouse button ) to open dialog again - enter new attribute ( street name ) and continue capturing? |
| 14:19:09 | macho: | i hope you know what i mean |
| 14:19:59 | macho: | and if you reall want no attribute - you can turn it off in prefs |
| 14:20:20 | simgislab: | hmm, sounds good for streets, but sounds also like a custom solution, in this case we'll need whole suite of behaviours for pop-up attribute window |
| 14:20:49 | macho: | sounds like a feature request for the wishlist ... : ) |
| 14:21:06 | simgislab: | we made this patch because for one of our projects we needed to create like 3000 points in QGIS |
| 14:21:33 | simgislab: | +1 to add it to wishlist, I'm not sure where it is |
| 14:22:50 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #845 ( bug closed ): Problem with large attribute tables <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/845#comment:4> |
| 14:49:00 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1546 ( bug closed ): Action from attribute table does'n substitute %column <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1546#comment:1> |
| 14:53:01 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1268 ( bug closed ): crash due to an unhandled GEOSException <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1268#comment:10> |
| 15:14:54 | oznt: | does someone know about a raster to polygon tool in qgis ? |
| 15:18:29 | simgislab: | afaik, no such, try gdal_polygonize instead |
| 15:21:55 | oznt: | simgislab, I used it to convert simple asii to polygon. But if I have a raster 300x300 and I want to create the polygons by specific z values I am completely clueless |
| 15:23:21 | simgislab: | oznt, 300x300 is ok, gdal_polygonize should work fine |
| 15:23:26 | oznt: | It should be possible to modify gdal_polygonize to do it though. |
| 15:23:42 | simgislab: | you can also use grass tool in qgis |
| 15:24:04 | oznt: | the size is not the proble. The proble is that I have many unique values. An I don't want 300 polygons to be created |
| 15:24:06 | simgislab: | reclass, then vectorize |
| 15:24:20 | oznt: | you mean with grass ? |
| 15:25:17 | oznt: | how do I reclass ? |
| 15:26:10 | simgislab: | yes, you can do it from qgis |
| 15:26:16 | simgislab: | r.reclass |
| 15:27:35 | oznt: | well... I wish I new how to work with grass... |
| 15:28:14 | oznt: | i never managed to get the hang of it |
| 15:28:56 | oznt: | how do I make the grass plugin load a simple ascii raster |
| 15:30:36 | simgislab: | you need to create a new location first |
| 15:30:53 | oznt: | i did. but then I can't add the file |
| 15:31:04 | oznt: | should I just copy that file to the location dir? |
| 15:31:57 | simgislab: | is open grass tools active? |
| 15:32:17 | simgislab: | you're looking for r.in.ascii command |
| 15:34:58 | oznt: | yes I found it. |
| 15:35:06 | oznt: | thanks. now I'll try to classify |
| 15:38:12 | oznt: | I see I have to specify a file to have the classification rules. Any idea how the rules look like or where to find them ? |
| 15:38:52 | simgislab: | -5000 thru 0 = NULL |
| 15:38:52 | simgislab: | 0 thru 500 = 2 |
| 15:38:52 | simgislab: | 500 thru 2000 = 3 |
| 15:38:58 | simgislab: | like this |
| 15:45:42 | oznt: | simgislab, thanks for the walkthrough . what is the vectorize function ? |
| 15:46:17 | simgislab: | r.to.vect.area |
| 15:50:08 | oznt: | ok I did it, but the vector is grass format, and I don't know how to load it... |
| 15:51:08 | simgislab: | just load it in QGIS, using add grass vector layer |
| 15:52:00 | oznt: | i need to tell him Gisdbase, Location, Mapset Mapname and layer... no clue what all these are |
| 15:52:35 | simgislab: | current I suppose |
| 15:53:30 | oznt: | basically Gisdbase is a folder called nc_spm_08/ |
| 15:53:49 | oznt: | that is were the vector layer is formed inside a dir called vector |