| 01:08:00 | timlinux: | morning all |
| 01:10:06 | jef: | timlinux: hi tim. I just accidently packaged 1.0.2 for osgeo4w. that should have been 1.0.1. when do we release 1.0.2? |
| 01:14:12 | timlinux: | hi jef |
| 01:14:25 | timlinux: | jef I was planning to wait a bit :-P |
| 01:14:54 | timlinux: | I didn't even do an official announcement of 1.0.1 yet - I was waiting till we had the standalone win installer working |
| 01:15:46 | timlinux: | that said 1.0 branch is pretty much ready for production use any time |
| 02:32:49 | ashjas: | hi all |
| 02:34:18 | ashjas: | can some one help me regarding ploting live point data on qgis?the point data coming to linux message queues? |
| 02:51:57 | timlinux: | hi ashjas |
| 02:55:57 | ashjas: | hi timlinux... |
| 02:56:06 | ashjas: | are u still here? |
| 03:52:05 | ashjas: | can some one help me regarding ploting live point data on qgis?the point data coming to linux message queues? |
| 05:00:23 | ashjas: | can some one help me regarding ploting live point data on qgis?the point data coming to linux message queues? |
| 05:14:20 | ashjas: | anybody here? |
| 06:35:42 | FiReSTaRT: | ashjas yup.. wuddup |
| 06:43:05 | ashjas: | hi Firestart |
| 06:43:34 | ashjas: | can u help me regarding plotting live point data on qgis?the point data coming to linux message queues? |
| 06:59:56 | FiReSTaRT: | unfortunately i can't.. it's been posted on the forums but i don't remember them coming up with a solution.. i could be wrong though |
| 08:29:50 | macho: | greetings |
| 08:57:29 | cfarmer: | does anyone have an svg version of the QGIS logo? not the simple yellow one, but the one with the arrow? |
| 09:27:16 | oznt: | hi everyone |
| 09:51:41 | : | <_-Slash-_> yo |
| 09:53:10 | : | <_-Slash-_> is there some BSD users ? |
| 10:02:05 | : | <_-Slash-_> back |
| 11:39:56 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1554 ( bug closed ): QGIS not properly recognizing/handling EPSG 2229 <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1554#comment:3> |
| 12:42:00 | timlinux: | hi all |
| 12:42:35 | jctull: | hi timlinux |
| 12:42:43 | timlinux: | hi jctull |
| 12:42:49 | jctull: | what's news? |
| 12:43:03 | timlinux: | qgis wise not much |
| 12:43:14 | timlinux: | need to get the release checklists set up for 1.1 |
| 12:43:17 | timlinux: | and 1.2 |
| 12:43:24 | timlinux: | jef what happened in the end with 1.2? |
| 12:43:39 | timlinux: | in osgeo4w |
| 12:43:41 | jctull: | all that productivity from the hackfest sets one's expectations high : ) |
| 12:43:49 | timlinux: | jctull: heh |
| 12:50:16 | jef: | timlinux: rebuilt and uploaded grass 6.4.0svn and qgis 1.0.1 |
| 12:50:39 | timlinux: | is grass 6.4 final released now? |
| 12:51:14 | jef: | timlinux: no, hence the svn |
| 12:51:25 | timlinux: | jef ok |
| 12:51:56 | timlinux: | jef so I was thinking to put out a request for people to backport any fixes for 1.1 that have been made in trunk |
| 12:52:10 | timlinux: | e.g. crs stuff you and martin fixed |
| 12:54:41 | jef: | timlinux: already done |
| 12:54:50 | jef: | r10398 |
| 12:54:58 | timlinux: | jef cool |
| 12:57:35 | : | * timlinux starts msexpress 2008 download |
| 13:10:21 | macho: | hi timlinux |
| 13:10:37 | timlinux: | hiya |
| 13:11:55 | macho: | any news in SA? |
| 13:20:46 | timlinux: | macho: our dodgy soon to be next president was just declared not dodgy any more |
| 13:20:54 | timlinux: | ie same old same old |
| 13:23:12 | timlinux: | jef did you say there is no need to install the platform SDK anymore with 2008? |
| 13:25:24 | jef: | timlinux: hm, I also have Microsoft SDKs/Windows/6.0a in my %LIB% path |
| 13:26:03 | timlinux: | you mean outside of the msvc path? |
| 13:26:27 | timlinux: | I'm going to update teh INSTALL.t2t docment for MSVC express while I do this |
| 13:26:46 | timlinux: | replacing my old deps archive notes to rather use osgeo4w deps |
| 13:27:29 | : | * timlinux is going to crash and leave msvc express downloading....36mb of 96mb downloaded so far.... |
| 13:27:36 | timlinux: | maybe it will be done tomorrow |
| 13:27:40 | timlinux: | cheers all |
| 13:27:42 | jef: | timlinux: yes. Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\vc\lib is the other. |
| 13:28:08 | timlinux: | jef how do you mean? |
| 13:28:18 | timlinux: | yes I must get the platform sdk? |
| 13:28:48 | timlinux: | ok will check with you tomorrow again... |
| 13:30:14 | jef: | timlinux: I have only 2 entries in %LIB% |
| 13:52:52 | macho: | i wonder if all this mess around windows is really worth it |
| 13:54:00 | macho: | if people use windows there is ArcGIS already .. ; ) |
| 13:54:25 | macho: | on Mac and Linux there is no GIS except GRASS and QGIS .. |
| 13:54:36 | macho: | ( and java based things ) |
| 13:55:34 | : | * macho has currently some problems with his M$ Windoof XP installation .. |
| 13:55:41 | : | * macho wonders why people use Windows at all |
| 13:56:03 | simgislab: | yes, I guess this is not about whether we have anything or not on Win, but more about _what_ we have |
| 13:57:41 | dassouki: | i use windows |
| 13:57:53 | dassouki: | cause TransCAD , RoadEng, don't run on linux |
| 13:58:00 | dassouki: | Emme3 and cubeland included |
| 13:58:07 | dassouki: | software worth around $50k |
| 13:58:15 | dassouki: | that we tried miserably to run it on wine |
| 13:58:19 | dassouki: | with no success |
| 13:58:22 | macho: | dassouki: thats my problem too - no 3D CAD for linux .. the only reason i use windows |
| 13:58:36 | dassouki: | well transcad is not a cad program |
| 13:58:40 | dassouki: | it's a transportaton gis program |
| 13:58:49 | dassouki: | that does lots of fancy transportation modeling |
| 13:59:03 | dassouki: | however teh sentinel hardware block that it comes with doesn't seem to be playing buddy with wine |
| 13:59:31 | macho: | thats a problem i also have with a hydraulik modelling software .. |
| 13:59:40 | macho: | simple fortran running in a DOS window .. |
| 14:00:23 | macho: | but the producer says 2hours to compile it for linux are too much effort because there is no demand for it on linux .. |
| 14:00:32 | macho: | i'm the only one |
| 14:00:36 | dassouki: | oooh |
| 14:00:44 | dassouki: | well why don't u pay him for the 2 hours if it's that simple |
| 14:00:48 | dassouki: | and buy him lunch too |
| 14:00:54 | macho: | thats the dog biting in his own tail .. |
| 14:01:05 | macho: | i suggested it to him .. |
| 14:01:17 | macho: | he said .. no - too much effort for "nothing" |
| 14:01:32 | dassouki: | sucks |
| 14:01:38 | macho: | yep |
| 14:01:45 | dassouki: | so u are a civil engineer ? |
| 14:01:49 | macho: | i wonder when people will see that .. |
| 14:01:51 | macho: | yes i am |
| 14:01:59 | dassouki: | nice me 2 |
| 14:02:26 | macho: | where are you from? |
| 14:02:35 | macho: | which area of civil engineering? |
| 14:02:38 | cfarmer: | cgs_bob_: ping... |
| 14:02:57 | dassouki: | transportation, road safety, transportation planning and forecasting |
| 14:03:01 | dassouki: | and a bit of policy |
| 14:03:10 | macho: | which country? |
| 14:03:13 | dassouki: | canada |
| 14:03:18 | macho: | ahhh i c |
| 14:03:26 | dassouki: | u |
| 14:03:27 | macho: | thats far away from austria ; ) |
| 14:03:38 | dassouki: | haha, i have a few friends fro maustria |
| 14:03:41 | dassouki: | awesome stroudel |
| 14:04:00 | macho: | hehehe correct |
| 14:43:16 | cgs_bob_: | cfarmer: hey there...you ping me? : ) |
| 14:43:58 | cfarmer: | yes I did... are you still using manageR at all? |
| 14:45:21 | cgs_bob_: | cfarmer: I'm still using it...but it has been a while. it will be important in my landslide hazard zone workflow |
| 14:46:38 | cfarmer: | good to hear... ok, I just released a brand new version ( should be in my repo now ) which works with rpy2 and the latest version( s ) of R... I was wondering if you'd mind testing it out a bit more me? |
| 14:48:02 | cgs_bob_: | cfarmer: I'll do that...after I got to a spring party : ) I'll give you how it goes tonight |
| 14:48:38 | cfarmer: | cgs_bob_: Excellent, thanks! I've changed quite a few things, including the main interface, so I'd like to hear any feedback you might have... I really like the new setup ( obviously ), but I'd be interested in hearing if it works for you as well... I tried to make it at bit more R-like... |
| 14:49:57 | cgs_bob_: | cfarmer: looking forward to it! I'll definitely give it a try tonight |
| 14:50:25 | cgs_bob_: | anyways...I got to run now. I'm late to the party : ) |
| 14:51:39 | cfarmer: | cheers! |
| 14:52:05 | cgs_bob_: | cfarmer: I should really get going. but I just tried to install it and got a "__init__( ) takes exactly 2 arguments ( 3 given )" error :( |
| 14:52:26 | cgs_bob_: | I got to run...bye! |
| 14:54:00 | cfarmer: | ok, thanks... bye! |
| 14:58:56 | cfarmer: | cgs_bob_: I know you've left, but in case you're going back over the logs later, I recommend completely removing your old version of manageR first before trying to install the new version. I just tried installing it here myself, and all goes well. I was doing this on a computer with no previous version of manageR however... |
| 15:18:40 | simgislab: | cfarmer: great job on new manageR, I'm gonna try it too |
| 15:19:53 | cfarmer: | simgislab: ah great... let me know what you think... did it download for you properly? |
| 15:19:56 | simgislab: | cfarmer: is it intentional, that both manageR and fTools are added to the bottom of the plugin manager list, not sorted like others? |
| 15:20:09 | simgislab: | cfarmer: so far so good, rpy2 is missing though |
| 15:21:48 | cfarmer: | ah yes, you'll need that: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=48422&package_id=277454 as for the sort order... I think it has something to do with the fact that I use different cases ( big T in fTools, big R in manageR ) |
| 15:21:50 | sigq: | Title: SourceForge.net: RPy ( R from Python ): Files ( at sourceforge.net ) |
| 15:23:06 | simgislab: | that explains it, i guess |
| 15:25:43 | simgislab: | hmm, can't see anything under plugins after swithing it on |
| 15:27:16 | simgislab: | cfarmer: this is what I got under 1.0, ImportError: No module named Numeric |
| 15:28:15 | simgislab: | hmm, python-numpy is installed |
| 15:29:21 | jctull: | I just tried to install manageR and got |
| 15:29:22 | jctull: | Don't forget to cut your lights tonight from 8:30 to 9:30 local time. |
| 15:29:27 | jctull: | hmm, wrong paste |
| 15:29:53 | jctull: | The plugin is broken. Python said: |
| 15:30:09 | jctull: | __init__( ) takes exactly 2 arguments ( 3 given ) |
| 15:30:14 | cfarmer: | simgislab: what os are you on? |
| 15:30:34 | cfarmer: | jctull: you might have to remove your old version of manageR before installing the new one... |
| 15:30:41 | jctull: | let's try that... |
| 15:30:59 | cfarmer: | the only __init__ file only took 2 arguments, the new one takes 3... |
| 15:31:54 | jctull: | that fixed that |
| 15:32:25 | cfarmer: | exellente, now what? ;-p |
| 15:32:42 | jctull: | Hey! The interface came up! : ) First time ever ; ) |
| 15:32:57 | cfarmer: | sweet! |
| 15:33:00 | jctull: | hmm, ctrl-H did nothing |
| 15:33:17 | cfarmer: | make sure the cursor on the the command line... |
| 15:33:28 | jctull: | it was/is |
| 15:33:56 | cfarmer: | nuts.. ok what about Ctrl+L? |
| 15:34:10 | jctull: | nothing there either, OS X as I think you knew |
| 15:34:54 | cfarmer: | oh right... hmm, maybe I have to do something special for OSX? so what is your equivalent to Ctrl? |
| 15:35:03 | jctull: | Ctrl |
| 15:35:05 | jctull: | ; ) |
| 15:35:31 | jctull: | Let me see if I can ferret out the ascii code ( who knows the terminal trick for this? ) |
| 15:38:09 | cfarmer: | jctull: I think I may have found the problem... on a mac, Crtl is considered a Qt::MetaModifier according to Qt... I think... |
| 15:38:19 | jctull: | ok, thx |
| 15:38:36 | jctull: | I tried other keys and combos, but no luck |
| 15:40:22 | cfarmer: | I'll put up a new version in a few... |
| 15:43:09 | jctull: | ok, I have 4 mins before I have to bug out |
| 15:47:22 | jctull: | cfarmer: I'll have to check later. Great work! |
| 15:47:26 | cfarmer: | jctull: ok, try downloading again, I just uploaded the new version... |
| 15:47:36 | jctull: | ok |
| 15:47:47 | cfarmer: | ah, ok... cheers, thanks for finding the first bug ;- ) |
| 15:48:51 | jctull: | cfarmer: yeah, later. It's not filtering up the repository chain yet. Cheers |
| 15:49:59 | cfarmer: | ok, thanks again bye! |
| 15:51:08 | cfarmer: | jctull: just so you know, when you do get a chance to test again, I haven't increased the version number of the newly uploaded version, so you won't notice it in the repo, but it *is* there... |
| 15:54:58 | cfarmer: | simgislab: did you figure out the numpy issue? I'm not sure why you're getting a Numpy error? did you install rpy or rpy2? |
| 18:59:08 | jctull: | simgislab: are you still around? |
| 18:59:23 | simgislab: | still here, hi |
| 18:59:53 | jctull: | I sent an email. Did you delete the manageR directory from your plugins folder? |
| 19:00:17 | simgislab: | delete? older one you mean& |
| 19:00:30 | jctull: | yes |
| 19:00:55 | simgislab: | never tried manageR before |
| 19:01:05 | jctull: | hmm, not it then... |
| 19:01:40 | simgislab: | I'm wondering if this is related to the fact that I have both 1.0.1 and trunk installed via osgeo4w |
| 19:01:43 | jctull: | oh, you don't have the numeric module installed |
| 19:01:56 | simgislab: | ? I don't |
| 19:02:12 | simgislab: | I thought I do |
| 19:02:17 | jctull: | can you open a python session and type 'import Numeric'? |
| 19:02:27 | simgislab: | 1 sec |
| 19:02:45 | simgislab: | exceptions.ImportError: No module named Numeric |
| 19:03:03 | jctull: | right, you need to install that. No easy_install method for that on either... |
| 19:03:03 | simgislab: | but I installed python-numpy |
| 19:03:18 | simgislab: | is it not it? |
| 19:03:19 | jctull: | I know, I ran into the same a few weeks back. |
| 19:03:33 | simgislab: | ah, let me try |
| 19:03:38 | jctull: | They are separate, although it was my impression that numpy was meant to replace... |
| 19:04:17 | jctull: | That might be something to check in with Carson tomorrow. |
| 19:04:35 | jctull: | On would expect the older Numeric to not be a requirement, but it obviously is. |
| 19:04:53 | simgislab: | yes, I'm gonna ask him tomorrow |
| 19:04:59 | simgislab: | thanks for your help! |
| 19:05:13 | jctull: | You could also try changing his code and replace 'import Numeric' with 'import numpy' and see if it works. |
| 19:08:18 | jctull: | it's in QLayerConverter.py |
| 19:08:35 | simgislab: | let me try import numpy in python session first |
| 19:09:03 | simgislab: | this worked |
| 19:09:09 | jctull: | I just tried and it does not work, so he must have a specific dependency on Numeric |
| 19:10:02 | simgislab: | ok |
| 19:10:24 | simgislab: | so this numeric, is it this one ?: http://people.csail.mit.edu/jrennie/python/numeric/ |
| 19:10:25 | sigq: | Title: Python Numeric ( at people.csail.mit.edu ) |
| 19:10:43 | jctull: | yep |
| 19:10:58 | jctull: | I installed 24.2 from source on my OS X setup |
| 19:11:41 | simgislab: | which python version you have? |
| 19:11:45 | jctull: | 2.5 |
| 19:11:49 | jctull: | OS X |
| 19:12:34 | simgislab: | 24.2 says it is for 2.4, is it ok? |
| 19:12:43 | jctull: | it was working for me |
| 19:13:03 | jctull: | I think that it has not been updated since 2.5 became available, so the website is old |
| 19:15:00 | simgislab: | I guess I need to install them of osgeo4w python? |
| 19:15:53 | simgislab: | even worth, it doesn't want to install at all |
| 19:16:15 | jctull: | I know nothing about osgeo4w :( |
| 19:20:35 | simgislab: | no problems, I'm sure we'll figure it out : ) |
| 19:40:26 | jctull: | simgislab: I'm having other problems if you see the user email list. |
| 19:40:36 | jctull: | Carson will sort it out tomorrow I'm sure |
| 19:40:46 | jctull: | 'night |
| 20:15:15 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1602 ( bug created ): Superfluous entries in the Plugin menu <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1602> |
| 21:54:07 | arkygeek: | timlinux: hi Tim :- ) |
| 21:56:00 | arkygeek: | timlinux: Do you remember when we set up the grass commands stuff,how it worked? it seems to be causing me some grief, and I'm not sure why... |
| 21:59:37 | arkygeek: | macho: hi |