#QGIS IRC Log - 2009-04-01

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00:02:24 ebelo: Hi, is there an easy way to extract the URL of the WMS request sent by QGIS?
00:58:03 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1610 ( bug created ): Update Preview in map composer doesn't work <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1610>
02:08:24 giohappy: jef: referring to the crash I told you yesterday ( when I select a Location with a minus sign ), here is the gdb session: http://pastebin.com/m4c4c2546
02:08:25 sigq: Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool ( at pastebin.com )
02:08:54 giohappy: I cannot do bt because the program exit
02:43:59 giohappy: jef: it seems a problem with QgsLogger::debug
02:55:11 doktoreas: hi folks
02:55:27 giohappy: doktoreas: hi man
02:55:52 doktoreas: The project file from 1.0.0 to 1.0.2 are not compatible ?
02:55:55 doktoreas: hi giohappy
03:05:05 CIA-56: pcav * r10451 /trunk/qgis/src/plugins/grass/modules/ ( r.colors.rast.qgm r.colors.rules.qgm r.colors.table.qgm ): Bugfix on r.colors.* modules
03:05:38 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10451]: Bugfix on r.colors.* modules <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10451>
03:50:34 macho: mrng
04:00:58 macho: timlinux: ping
04:05:05 spacedman: mmm i can't wait for the closed source qgis....
04:14:30 giohappy: tim: ping ( any test with grass plugin mapsets? )
04:15:39 timlinux: hi macho
04:16:08 timlinux: giohappy: no test - I need fresh grass dlls from jef
04:18:58 lynx_r: hi all. i seen in mailing list a site where was capability auto-generate python plugins. but i can not find it. could anybody get a link to it?
04:22:41 CIA-56: pcav * r10452 /trunk/qgis/i18n/qgis_it.ts: Typo in IT translation
04:24:03 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10452]: Typo in IT translation <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10452>
04:51:52 doktoreas: is it possible in the print composer to have different map objects with different layers in each of them?
05:17:43 macho: timlinux: do you have qt4.5 ?
05:18:15 macho: i see that qt 4.5 handles the .ts files a bit different .. i'll have to take a closer look on that
05:46:26 timlinux: macho: yes it was with 4.5
05:47:01 macho: with versions <4.5 there seems to be no problems
05:47:28 macho: .. but i've installed a linux with qt4.5 to investigate .. just wait a bit - currently i've to do "normal" work too ; )
06:20:56 jef: macho: using trunk or version 1.0?
06:21:48 pcav: hi all
06:22:07 pcav: someone has changed GRASS flags?
06:22:21 pcav: jef: ?
06:22:58 jef: pcav: which flags?
06:23:53 TJCRI: yay I installed qgis 1.0 today : ) Now I just need to update my postgresql database to compliment it
06:25:04 pcav: jef: update="yes"
06:25:10 pcav: is no longer working
06:25:14 timlinux: TJCRI: congrats
06:25:32 jef: pcav: where?
06:25:44 pcav: r.colors.*
06:25:58 pcav: I had to remove the option
06:26:01 TJCRI: yeah I've been slacking lately with keeping up with everything since we moved to a new building in March ... now its time to catch up : )
06:26:22 jef: pcav: not that I now.
06:26:24 pcav: but now you have to reopen the tool every time
06:26:31 pcav: mmm
06:27:17 simgislab: aghisla: hi
06:27:25 aghisla: hi simgislab
06:28:12 simgislab: ahisla: Maxim here, so you're applying for GSoc this year?
06:28:39 aghisla: yes - with R
06:29:08 simgislab: did I understand that you did last year too, with something QGIS related?
06:29:47 spacedman: I should probably register as a mentor, if only for the free t-shirt...
06:31:10 aghisla: simgislab: yes, a python plugin that calls R
06:33:30 aghisla: still in development : )
06:34:55 pcav: timlinux: no idea?
06:42:08 simgislab: aghisla: did last year application was successful?
06:42:21 aghisla: yes!
06:44:23 lynx_r: hi, all
06:45:28 lynx_r: i want to develop plugin that will incorporate qgis with ossimPlanet
06:45:47 simgislab: everybody, meet lynx_r, he is the coder behind new georeferencer gdal also : )
06:46:10 lynx_r: so i took this idea from gsoc
06:46:58 simgislab: and I'm trying to push him to apply to this year gsoc too
06:49:47 jachym: timlinux: fixed
06:49:48 lynx_r: does someone apply with QGIS this year?
06:50:07 aghisla: until this morning, not
06:50:11 aghisla: afaik
06:52:24 lynx_r: does it make my chances bigger?
06:55:51 aghisla: probably : )
06:56:08 aghisla: but I know that another student was interested in ossimplanet and qgis
06:56:16 CIA-56: pcav * r10453 /trunk/qgis/src/plugins/grass/modules/r.colors.qgm: Removing a non-working option from r.colors.qgm ( needs deeper fix )
06:56:58 simgislab: I heard about someone else too
06:56:59 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10453]: Removing a non-working option from r.colors.qgm ( needs deeper fix ) <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10453>
06:57:03 aghisla: maybe you should contact him and see if you can write two application that don't collide, if possible
06:57:39 lynx_r: yes, it will be better
06:57:54 lynx_r: aghisla: how can i contact him?
06:58:00 aghisla: he is epifanio on IRC
06:58:16 lynx_r: ahh, i know him!
06:59:07 aghisla: tell him asap, the submission period is closing on 3rd
06:59:07 simgislab: sounds like not enough time for coordinating? considering nobody else expressed interest in gsoc this year
06:59:43 aghisla: start writing your app - I know people that got accepted and have submitted their app few hours before deadline
06:59:45 simgislab: I'd say just start writing ; )
07:00:24 aghisla: i can send him an email
07:00:42 aghisla: with simgislab in copy
07:02:37 lynx_r: ok, i start worked. and i need some add-on in qgis api that will let add tabs
07:03:35 lynx_r: so, today i wrote a patch that extant api
07:03:36 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1611 ( bug created ): r.colors.*: option update="yes" no longer working <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1611>
07:04:42 macho: jef: guess it were both version - can look later this evening
07:05:26 simgislab: lynx_r: so it wasn't possible with current API?
07:05:59 lynx_r: yes, there is not such functions as addTab in api
07:12:08 lynx_r: I actually wanted to discuss my project about ossimplanet integration with someone who had any experience or interest with it.
07:12:56 giohappy: there's an italina guy that works and develop for it
07:13:03 giohappy: italian
07:13:20 macho: lynx_r: ossimplanet means youre bringing the 3rd dimension to qgis?
07:13:26 aghisla: you mean epifanio, giohappy
07:13:28 aghisla: ?
07:13:33 giohappy: lynxyes
07:13:33 lynx_r: macho: yes
07:13:36 giohappy: yes
07:13:52 macho: lynx_r: sounds VERY nive - I need exactly that ..
07:14:00 aghisla: I'm contacting him per email
07:14:21 giohappy: aghisla: he's very good with it
07:14:30 macho: lynx_r: you should contact jef about it because he said something about a patch that bring at least a Z koordinate as attribute to the tables - so he seems to be interested too
07:14:43 macho: but the patch did not make its way into trunk until now
07:15:31 simgislab: maho: but I guess this is a different stuff we're talking about
07:15:43 lynx_r: giohappy: epifanio saied that hi is working under grass+ossimplanet
07:16:59 giohappy: epifanio: yes
07:17:10 giohappy: sorry
07:17:18 giohappy: lynx_r: yes :- )
07:17:22 simgislab: lynx_r: what is your progress on integration overall? just started or made some progress?
07:17:32 goab: hi all
07:18:02 macho: simgislab: so what you talk about is _real_ 3D ?
07:18:22 lynx_r: simgislab: i have some progress
07:19:18 lynx_r: i sent epifanio the path that dirrect integrate code of ossimplanet to qgis and showing a new tab with sphere
07:19:44 lynx_r: maybe hi demonstrated it here
07:20:14 giohappy: lynx_r: very good news... can you share it?
07:20:24 lynx_r: yes
07:20:30 goab: Pretty new in coding for qgis, is someone can point me where to find the legend's documentation API please?
07:20:38 lynx_r: and we compiled it under linux and mac
07:22:30 giohappy: lynx_r: we could try it under windows too...
07:23:35 macho: goab: you are searching for that? http://doc.qgis.org/
07:24:19 goab: macho: no really, I'm there already. I search documentation to access the legend properties
07:24:47 macho: ?? right click on legend -> properties
07:25:30 goab: yes I know that : ) I want to see the legend API
07:29:09 macho: all documentation is on doc.qgis.org .. there is no more ..
07:29:20 goab: To be more clear ( if I can with my bad english ), I want to know if it's possible to control the legend with a python plugin
07:30:00 goab: 'cause moving hundreds of layers by hand to put them in subfolder is toooooooo long
07:30:48 jef: goab: what kind of layers are you dealing with?
07:31:19 goab: rasters ( geotiff ) and vectors
07:32:53 goab: ( for subfolder, I mean group in the legend )
07:36:59 jctull: big turnout. must be over the new licensing scheme.
07:39:15 macho: yeah - from now on - being in #qgis in IRC costs 2cent per minute
07:39:28 cgs_bob: I'm sure the plugin authors are happy : )
07:39:48 jef: goab: never used them, but vrt files might be nice for that. http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/2008-June/002870.html
07:41:37 giohappy: jef: I think goab is referring to layer groups in the legend, not stacking...
07:45:40 jctull: cgs_bob: ah, but the revenue is not returned to the plugin devs.
07:55:13 goab: I have to go now, I'll come back wit more precises questions : ) have a nice day all
09:09:30 timlinux: for goab when he returns - the legend is not exposed to the api yet
12:55:40 cfarmer: FiReSTaRT: just check over the logs from the other day... you were looking for a new manageR... check my repo, I have updated it to work with rpy2 and the latest R
12:55:51 FiReSTaRT: hey carson
12:55:59 FiReSTaRT: perfect : ) thanks for the heads up :P
12:56:05 cfarmer: np
12:56:39 FiReSTaRT: speaking of which, i've been using R more and more these days.... my code ref file is getting too large to handle.. might need to break it into sections :P
12:59:37 cfarmer: excellent... R is my ( second ) favorite software....
13:00:33 FiReSTaRT: i just hope they'll come up with a good gui for it.. the command line can be a bit clunky
13:01:35 FiReSTaRT: but at least i don't have to waste my time in the lab :P
13:01:59 FiReSTaRT: and having grown up on DOS and using Linux, i can live with it :D
13:29:06 epifanio: hi all, apologize the OT question, doeas anyone has experience with makefile ?
13:29:24 epifanio: maybe can you give me an help, i hope :-/
13:29:39 epifanio: the original make file is : http://rafb.net/p/tOeaxC79.html
13:29:40 sigq: Title: Nopaste - No description ( at rafb.net )
13:29:48 epifanio: i modified it to : http://rafb.net/p/favy0M14.html
13:29:49 sigq: Title: Nopaste - No description ( at rafb.net )
13:29:59 epifanio: i just added 2 if statment around line 60
13:30:21 : * epifanio ... googling about the error
13:33:34 epifanio: ok ... i had really no experience with makefile ... only now i had the notice that it has its syntax
13:33:43 epifanio: ok ... i'lll learn and fix ;- )
14:44:50 cfarmer: any python gurus handy?
15:33:34 wildintellect: cfarmer, depends on the def of guru
15:35:20 cfarmer: wildintellect: ok, well do you know if you can send a Return to the r interpreter from a script? as in simulate a Return pressed from within a python script... this could be a stupid question...
15:35:38 cfarmer: and by R interpreter I mean python interpreter
15:35:50 wildintellect: good I was confused at 1st
15:36:29 wildintellect: so you want to send the results of return to the >>>
15:37:07 wildintellect: or do you literally mean the "enter" button on an interface
15:37:16 cfarmer: yes, the 'enter' button...
15:37:47 cfarmer: something like exec "enter_button"
15:38:38 wildintellect: we talking qt here?
15:39:47 cfarmer: yup...
15:40:27 wildintellect: well you can catch the qtaction for the enter button and send it to a python function that does nothing but print statements
15:40:40 wildintellect: are you trying to simulate the qt action
15:41:51 cfarmer: no, what I have is some interaction with R via Rpy, and to continue, you need to press enter ( when run from the python terminal )... since this is being run from a script, I have no way of properly continuing... without telling python that 'enter' was pressed...
15:42:08 wildintellect: ah
15:42:41 cfarmer: yes, I might be going about this the wrong way... I was just hoping it might work...
15:42:41 wildintellect: so you need the keypress in the python terminal to register and continue the action
15:42:49 cfarmer: exactly...
15:43:31 wildintellect: is it paused or at the end of a function and the start of the next?
15:43:54 jctull: cfarmer: hi
15:44:21 cfarmer: hi jctull, I think you can guess what I'm trying to do here huh? demos don't work in manageR...
15:44:41 jctull: ah. I played more, and that error seems totally random...
15:44:55 jctull: Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.
15:45:02 jctull: which demo are you trying
15:45:27 cfarmer: wildintellect: it's sort of a funny situation, it's really in the middle of the funtion... waiting for unput...
15:45:30 cfarmer: jctull: any of them... if R requires you to press return... it won't work...
15:45:34 jctull: btw, help no longer takes control of qgis
15:45:45 jctull: ok, same as before.
15:45:49 cfarmer: yes that's good...
15:46:08 jctull: good luck... I'll be off and on for a few hours if you need any testing
15:46:52 wildintellect: cfarmer, did you use some sort of pause function?
15:46:52 cfarmer: wildintellect: as it is, I run the R function in a separate thread, and emit signals back with the R output...
15:47:05 cfarmer: I don't, but R must...
15:47:50 cfarmer: like I said, this is really a convoluted problem... I'm not sure if there is a simple solution here :-( I might have to check with the Rpy folks...
15:48:56 wildintellect: so it's the R function that is waiting not the python function
15:51:38 wildintellect: cause that's a totally different problem if we're trying to get R to communicate back
15:52:35 wildintellect: did you try just sending R a "/n"
15:53:28 cfarmer: wildintellect: yes I suppose so... essentially what's going on is python send the command to R, R runs the command and fires back some text to the console ( which I pick up ), R then waits for input in the form of "Enter" from python...
16:02:50 wildintellect: that is a question for the rpy people I think - I 'll keep poking not much luck on simulating keystrokes in python yet
16:06:02 cfarmer: wildintellect: thanks anyway... I'm heading off now cheers!
16:07:18 cgs_bob: cfarmer: Hi there! I notice that the graphics demo ends with devAskNewPage
16:08:44 cfarmer: cgs_bob: hmmm that might be useful...what would be really nice is if there was a "no.prompt" parameter for calls to demo... ;- )
16:09:18 cgs_bob: cfarmer: look at the help: ?devAskNewPage
16:12:17 cfarmer: cgs_bob / wildintellect / jctull holly cow, I just got it to work! Skips all the prompts and just displays the graphics.... I now have an rgl graphic buzzing around in QGIS!
16:12:31 cfarmer: woot woot!
16:13:10 cgs_bob: cfarmer: way cool! so, when are we going to have some fun too? : )
16:14:04 cfarmer: hehe, it's tool late for me tonight, plus I still have one of two more things to work out... but definately tomorrow it will be ready to go ( assuming you can get RPy2 and R and Numpy working together properly )...
16:14:19 cfarmer: sorry for the tease...
16:14:43 cgs_bob: cfarmer: I'm ready for it : )
16:15:23 cfarmer: cgs_bob: well I promise it will be ready tomorrow... oh man are 3-D graphics cool!
16:16:31 cgs_bob: cfarmer: looking forward to showing my Excel lovin' coworker qgis with manageR ; )
16:16:42 cfarmer: note to eye candy lovers... compiz fusion and rgl don't really like each other much... have to turn off Compiz to enjoy interactive 3-D graphics in R
16:17:45 cfarmer: cgs_bob: yes, glad to be of service! Once I have R working properly within QGIS, I plan to make a simpler installer for the whole process... and then add some common tasks gui items to straighted the R learning curve a bit...
16:17:55 cgs_bob: cfarmer: thanks for the note
16:18:25 cfarmer: so if you have any favourite R functions you think others in the spatial analysis world might also use a lot, let me know...
16:21:20 : * cfarmer says: cheers all... good night from the Emerald Isle!
16:21:29 jctull: cfarmer: great work. It looks like sometime tomorrow for an update. I'll keep an eye out for it.
16:21:34 jctull: 'night
22:23:28 : <_-Slash-_> yo
23:14:22 lynx_r: hi, where can i find computer system requirements to launch qgis?
23:24:34 wildintellect: lynx_r, what do you have
23:24:54 wildintellect: qgis will run on quite old machines
23:26:50 lynx_r: wildintellect: i need accuracy minimal system requirements to put them in my report
23:27:20 wildintellect: hmm, let me see what I can find for you
23:27:39 wildintellect: it would probably whatever qt4's limits are
23:28:58 wildintellect: kinda tough since qt4 runs on phones and people are attempting to port qgis to them
23:30:38 lynx_r: yes, i read about porting to phones in mail list
23:30:59 wildintellect: you probably want to email the list with your question
23:31:31 wildintellect: the best I can tell you is OS X, windows 2000+ or linux with a 2.6 kernel
23:31:42 wildintellect: if you can run those OS you can run qgis
23:32:29 jef: qgis needs a 2.6 kernel?
23:32:38 wildintellect: not sure
23:32:43 wildintellect: probably not
23:32:53 wildintellect: I've never tried on a 2.4
23:33:08 wildintellect: not really sure who still has 2.4 these days
23:33:59 lynx_r: i guess qt4's requiments will be enough
23:34:19 wildintellect: did you find them, cause I didn't
23:35:39 wildintellect: ah linux kernel 2.4 or newer
23:36:04 wildintellect: http://www.qtsoftware.com/products/platform/qt-for-embedded-linux
23:36:06 sigq: Title: Qt for Embedded Linux Qt – A cross-platform application and UI framework ( at www.qtsoftware.com )
23:38:27 wildintellect: it's kinda funny and hard to compare against ArcGIS which needs IE7, 512RAM, 64MB video and 3GB of hard drive minimum
23:39:09 wildintellect: almost a game to see how little hardware it will work on
23:39:31 wildintellect: I know it'll work on a celeron 2.0 with 128 ram