#QGIS IRC Log - 2009-04-09

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00:05:41 arkygeek: is it possible to create sub-goups in qgis?
00:07:17 wildintellect: you mean in the legend?
00:08:04 wildintellect: or you thinking, from a selection make a sublayer
00:16:21 jef: arkygeek: no.
00:36:04 macho: good morning #qgis
01:11:59 wildintellect: well got grass working again, and managed to compile the spatialite gui for 64bit guess it's bed so I can build qgis from svn tomorrow with the new spatialite provider
01:13:12 wildintellect: arkygeek, that's a great idea for a new plugin - take a selection and make a new vector layer out of it only in memory, goes away on close - I guess in arc it recreates if it was saved in the map doc
01:18:02 jef: wildintellect: new provider?
04:11:22 CIA-56: mhugent * r10515 /trunk/qgis/src/core/qgsmaprenderer.cpp: fix for a memory leak
04:12:13 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10515]: fix for a memory leak <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10515>
04:54:07 CIA-56: borysiasty * r10516 /trunk/qgis/src/plugins/grass/qgsgrasstools.cpp: typo fix
04:54:08 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10516]: typo fix <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10516>
05:34:41 CIA-56: mhugent * r10517 /trunk/qgis/src/app/qgsmaptooladdvertex.cpp: Fix for bug #1570, move vertex after add vertex introduces new vertices when snapping is active
05:40:23 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1570 ( bug closed ): Digitizing: move vertex after add vertex introduces new vertices when snapping is active <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1570#comment:2>
08:41:33 jctull: jef: were there more changes with lib names in the past 24-36 hours?
08:51:52 jef: jctull: hm, maybe the same change to version 1.0, that I already applied to trunk was in that period.
08:52:20 jctull: my script for fixing lib linking issues in OS X is not working and I am having trouble sorting it out...
08:52:40 jctull: I'm building trunk btw
09:15:29 jctull: jef: should the plugin manager get a refresh when you close the plugin installer? Otherwise, if you open the plugin installer from the plugin manager, the list of available plugins is not updated.
10:53:29 : <_-Slash-_> o/
11:57:46 : <_-Slash-_> ZZZzzz
12:03:36 dassouki: i was wondering if there is a way to use qgsnapper in python ? I have a centroid layer and a road layers. I'm trying to create a line that connects the centroids to the links
12:39:31 triclegirl: can anyone tell me why the attribute table for my shapefile is coming up as blank in qgis - it was showing all the data when i last used it
12:39:43 triclegirl: now it only has column headers
12:47:21 dassouki: triclegirl: have u tried opening in another program ? or restarting qgis
12:49:20 triclegirl: don't have another program - the dbf file opens fine in excel but i need to map the data
12:49:49 triclegirl: and yes, restarted program, computer, everything
12:50:13 CIA-56: wonder * r10518 /trunk/qgis/src/app/qgspluginmanager.cpp: Hide plugin installer button in plugin manager until we resolve some problems with integration ( probably in 1.2 release )
13:04:52 dassouki: triclegirl: try it out wiht openjump or arc explorer
13:05:03 dassouki: or perhaps try gdal to convert it to another format
13:17:53 triclegirl: k, thanks
13:36:12 triclegirl: new question - my attributes table has appeared but now the layer is showing each property in it as a bubble on the map - how do i get rid of it
13:41:49 timlinux: hi all
13:42:14 jctull: hey timlinux
13:42:19 jef: hi timlinux
13:43:14 jef: jctull: looks like martin noticed...
13:43:48 timlinux: hi jef hi jctull
13:43:55 timlinux: ready for feature freeze?
13:44:08 jctull: yeah, I guess I should use the proper channels. Glad he is lurking.
13:45:44 jctull: jef: on another note, spatialite integration builds for me now on my machine.
13:46:49 jctull: timlinux: freezing 1.0.2 and 1.1.0?
13:47:48 jctull: triclegirl: I am unclear about your description of bubbles on your map
13:48:52 triclegirl: i have a layer of all the properties in a city - each one is showing up as a bubble. i need to select a few and i can't even see if they're being selected because each property shows - each one is a bubble
13:49:31 jctull: can you post images somewhere?
13:50:17 jef: triclegirl: hm. trunk? diagram overlays?
13:50:40 timlinux: triclegirl: sounds very bubbliscious
13:51:01 timlinux: @seen FrankW
13:51:01 sigq: timlinux: FrankW was last seen in #qgis 6 days, 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <FrankW> SDSC which hosts is apparently having connectivity problems.
13:51:13 timlinux: jctull yup
13:51:25 : * timlinux goes to check his release plan
13:51:37 jctull: sounds good and follows last week's email
13:54:43 triclegirl: please look at the bubbles: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TKE9ZZOC
13:54:45 sigq: Title: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service ( at www.megaupload.com )
13:55:25 triclegirl: what about trunk/diagram overlays. novice here.
13:59:20 timlinux: jef are the icons on the attributes tab in vector layer props showing for you?
14:00:00 timlinux: also is diagram branch stuff enabled in trunk now? I see lots of files added but no new options in vector props
14:01:06 timlinux: triclegirl: to see your screenie I have to enter a captha 4 char code
14:01:13 timlinux: but that captcha is impossible to make out
14:02:24 jef: triclegirl: stop editing.
14:02:48 : * timlinux feels like some kind of mensa candidate since he guessed the captha
14:02:53 timlinux: captcha
14:03:28 jef: timlinux: http://buten.norbit.de/~jef/bubbles.JPG
14:03:32 triclegirl: what shall i do
14:03:45 jef: triclegirl: click on the pencil.
14:04:04 jctull: wow. lots of vertices
14:05:02 triclegirl: okay, asks me if i want to save changes - didn't change anything - so no
14:05:07 jef: timlinux: building latest trunk. in the version I had head the attribute tab was ok.
14:05:42 triclegirl: then what
14:06:10 jef: triclegirl: select the other layers you are editing and stop there too
14:06:28 jef: triclegirl: one by one that is.
14:06:45 triclegirl: okay
14:07:08 triclegirl: done
14:07:30 jef: triclegirl: and bubbles aka vertex markers are gone, I suppose.
14:07:49 triclegirl: no very much there
14:09:26 jctull: It seems that you can open multiple instances of an attribute table for a given layer. Would be better if the already open table would be brought forward.
14:09:50 jctull: In properties, "diagram overlay" still needs to be changed to "Diagram Overlay"
14:10:36 timlinux: jef it looks a bit like my trunk build is cross linking to my stable build again
14:10:47 jef: timlinux: attribute tab ok, diagram overlay ok. did you enable the plugin?
14:11:10 jctull: I;ve got both also on my build
14:11:15 timlinux: when I enable plugins qgis goes loopy
14:11:46 : * timlinux also gets build errors on stable branch
14:12:18 timlinux: /home/timlinux/dev/cpp/qgis_1_branch/build/src/core/moc_qgscontexthelp.cxx:14:2: error: #error "This file was generated using the moc from 4.4.3. It"
14:12:36 timlinux: guess I need to clean then build
14:12:46 timlinux: since I sorta partway upgraded to jaunty
14:12:49 CIA-56: cdavilam * r10519 /docs/branches/1.0.0/spanish/user_guide/forward.tex: Forward translated into Spanish
14:12:50 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10519]: Forward translated into Spanish <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10519>
14:15:11 jef: triclegirl: so you're still editing. if it asks you did change something. discard the changes.
14:15:24 triclegirl: yup i did
14:15:29 triclegirl: and bubbles remain
14:15:33 triclegirl: not doing anything now
14:15:39 triclegirl: shall i just shut it and try again
14:16:14 wildint: triclegirl, did you make the point layer or import it?
14:16:24 jctull: triclegirl: are the edit tools available for that layer, like move vertex, etc.?
14:19:06 : * jef rubs his eyes - where's a point layer?
14:19:29 wildint: that's kinda my point
14:19:50 wildint: my colleague just pointed out that the layer might be a polygon of buffered points
14:20:12 wildint: meaning the bubbles are polygons and the best thing might be to convert it to a point layer
14:20:51 wildint: using ftools to pull centroids
14:22:40 jef: wildint: I still think those are vertex markers ( in semi transparent circles mode )
14:22:55 wildint: ah, interesting
14:23:22 wildint: so it's failing to leave edit mode
14:23:23 jctull: triclegirl: which layer is causing the problem?
14:23:26 triclegirl: edits available - move, delete vertex - tried both
14:23:29 jef: triclegirl: settings/options/digitizing/vertex marker and set that to cross. does that change anything?
14:23:45 jctull: jef: took the words out of my fingers
14:25:51 triclegirl: it says : Could not snap segment.Have you set the tolerance in Settings > Project Properties > General?
14:26:28 jctull: triclegirl: change the setting as jef suggested.
14:26:42 jctull: Your bubbles should become x's which will verify that you are in edit mode.
14:27:29 triclegirl: what should i set the tolerance to
14:30:02 jctull: triclegirl: don't bother with that. Did you change the vertex marker setting>?
14:30:13 triclegirl: yup
14:30:25 jctull: do you still see bubbles?
14:30:33 triclegirl: yes
14:30:39 triclegirl: tried refreshing - still bubbles
14:30:42 jctull: no clue, sorry
14:30:56 triclegirl: well thanks for trying
14:31:18 timlinux: triclegirl: how did you install QGIS?
14:31:25 timlinux: triclegirl: did you compile it yourself?
14:31:34 : * jctull sends in the closer
14:31:35 timlinux: or is it a package you downloaded?
14:32:07 wildint: based on the icon on the taskbar I'm gonna guess OSGeo4w
14:32:48 triclegirl: downloaded - that's the one
14:35:31 timlinux: triclegirl: if you open help->about, what version info does it say you have
14:36:10 triclegirl: development version - no new features since 1.0.0
14:37:12 timlinux: triclegirl: so when it starts you get a red splash screen or a blue one?
14:37:20 triclegirl: blue
14:37:54 wildint: fyi it says 1.0.1 Kore 2 at the top
14:39:06 timlinux: wildint I couldn't actually get the screenie open
14:39:13 timlinux: so thanks
14:39:21 jef: timlinux: http://buten.norbit.de/~jef/bubbles.JPG
14:39:53 timlinux: jef thanks
14:40:39 timlinux: triclegirl: can you try removing each layer in sequence
14:40:46 timlinux: start with the top one
14:40:56 timlinux: click it and press Ctrl-D to remove it
14:41:07 timlinux: and see if / when the bubbles evaporate
14:41:28 triclegirl: i restarted it
14:41:31 triclegirl: now i have crosses
14:42:27 timlinux: can you try remove the layers one by one now?
14:42:37 timlinux: are the layers all shp file layers?
14:43:11 triclegirl: ya
14:44:17 triclegirl: all the layers but the whitbyparcels layer are gone - it's the one with the data and the erstwhile bubbles/now crosses
14:45:15 timlinux: triclegirl: can you arrange the toolbars better
14:45:31 timlinux: click and drag the stippled area next to the pen icon
14:45:35 timlinux: and drag down
14:45:47 timlinux: so that the editing toolbar is fully visible
14:46:04 timlinux: then click the pen icon once
14:46:18 timlinux: do the icons next to it go grayed out?
14:46:56 timlinux: jef: Is it possible to make your osgeo4w stuff set a registry key?
14:47:06 timlinux: then we could make those toolbars have sensible defaults
14:47:19 timlinux: I can give you a .reg file
14:47:36 timlinux: I guess the osgeo4w tries to be registry independent
14:48:12 jef: timlinux: which key?
14:48:48 timlinux: its the geom key under qgis
14:49:05 timlinux: so that it sets the qgis win geom before first run
14:49:16 timlinux: see recent patches I made to nsis installer
14:49:18 triclegirl: ya they go gray
14:49:31 timlinux: triclegirl: and the bubbles evaporate?
14:49:56 triclegirl: the entire layer vanishes
14:50:14 triclegirl: i have to click the pen to see it again
14:51:05 jef: timlinux: HKCU\Software\QuantumGIS\QGIS\UI\geometry?
14:51:16 timlinux: triclegirl: what symbology options have you set for the layer
14:51:20 timlinux: jef that's the one
14:52:04 timlinux: jef or even the whole ui key
14:54:00 timlinux: folks: release name for qgis 1.1 - any prefs? I'm thinking one of: http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/saturn/gif/ring_sat1.gif
14:54:12 triclegirl: single symbol - 0% transparency
14:55:39 timlinux: triclegirl: and the line colour is something other than white?
14:56:20 triclegirl: black
14:56:25 jef: timlinux: hm, shouldn't there better be sane defaults in QgisApp::restoreWindowState( )?
14:56:53 triclegirl: changed it to white - doesn't affect crosses
14:57:29 timlinux: jef that would be the ideal way but
14:57:57 timlinux: when I tried to use defaults for those binary settings keys qt ignored them
14:58:20 timlinux: jef: the problem is the toolbars are manually constructed
14:58:24 triclegirl: ok - crosses gone now when i unclick the pen
14:59:03 timlinux: so they don't get to have initial starting geometry that is sane
14:59:24 : * timlinux wants to build the toolbars as part of ui in designer at some point
14:59:32 timlinux: triclegirl: and you can see your lines?
14:59:50 jef: timlinux: so where's the .reg?
15:00:03 triclegirl: ooh yes
15:00:17 triclegirl: just mapped the selection
15:00:31 triclegirl: it was set to no brush - so wasn't filling anything in
15:01:19 timlinux: jef 1 sec I need to boot up my vm
15:01:29 timlinux: triclegirl: congrats
15:02:12 triclegirl: that's awesome
15:09:05 triclegirl: see - very conducive to carrying out intensification analyses on long weekends: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JP2V0TLO
15:09:06 sigq: Title: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service ( at www.megaupload.com )
15:11:12 timlinux: jef: just mailed you 3 ref files
15:11:26 wildint: triclegirl, can you upload to http://tinypic.com/ instead so we can just see the image without having to download
15:11:27 sigq: Title: TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting ( at tinypic.com )
15:11:31 timlinux: they set the toolbar geom, enabled plugins and enabled python plugins
15:11:49 timlinux: which is what Im using with the nsis builder
15:13:14 triclegirl: here you go: http://i43.tinypic.com/aoub8j.jpg
15:14:16 wildint: thanks
15:24:03 timlinux: triclegirl: if you drag that toolbar down a little it will dock nicely and not obscure your menus
15:26:46 triclegirl: just did that
15:48:16 triclegirl: okay thank you guys v.much. going now. will probly be back somewhere along this learning curve.
15:51:29 timlinux: triclegirl: cya!
15:51:38 timlinux: pop in anytime
15:52:01 triclegirl: thanks : )
16:15:14 CIA-56: timlinux * r10520 /trunk/qgis/images/splash/ ( splash.png splash.xcf.bz2 ): Updated splash for 1.1 release
16:15:15 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10520]: Updated splash for 1.1 release <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10520>
16:15:45 jctull: timlinux: can you change the "diagram overlay" tab label?
16:15:52 timlinux: jef: I see spatiallite 2.3 supports amalgamation now
16:16:06 timlinux: ie all sources in a single ( actually 2 ) source files
16:16:16 jef: timlinux: where did you find that? src/core/spatialite? ; )
16:16:17 timlinux: jctull: sure as soon as I can see it :- )
16:16:21 jctull: heh
16:16:39 timlinux: jef: just reading the 2.3 release notes on the dev list
16:16:54 timlinux: jef: are you already using amalgamation sources in qgis?
16:16:58 jef: timlinux: yes
16:17:02 timlinux: great
16:17:40 timlinux: ps 1.1 release of QGIS has been christened 'Pan'
16:17:52 timlinux: next release will be called "frying"
16:17:56 timlinux: :- )
16:18:20 timlinux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pan_Rev09.2x.jpg
16:18:21 sigq: Title: File:Pan Rev09.2x.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ( at en.wikipedia.org )
16:18:27 CIA-56: jef * r10521 /trunk/qgis/src/app/qgisapp.cpp: add ui defaults
16:19:06 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10521]: add ui defaults <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10521>
16:23:04 jef: timlinux: are gui changes like that allowed in 1.0? ; )
16:34:01 timlinux: jef +1 from me :- )
16:34:33 timlinux: jef ah you got it to work the way I originally tried to do but hopelessly failed
16:35:01 timlinux: jef: does that follow the same toolbar layout as my reg key?
16:35:52 jef: timlinux: yes. if you look at ~/.config/QuantumGIS/QGIS.conf you probably see why that didn't work for you. the registry key has the same data.
16:41:15 CIA-56: jef * r10522 /branches/Version-1_0/src/app/qgisapp.cpp: merge r10521 to version 1.0
16:43:12 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10522]: merge r10521 to version 1.0 <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10522>
16:44:24 : * timlinux goes to hit the sack
16:44:33 timlinux: tomorrow is another day
17:23:39 dassouki: timlinux: hello