#QGIS IRC Log - 2009-04-22

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00:32:59 CIA-70: jef * r10616 /trunk/qgis/python/plugins/fTools/i18n.cpp: add some missing fTools translation strings
00:33:30 CIA-70: jef * r10617 /trunk/qgis/i18n/qgis_de.ts: german translation update
00:33:31 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10617]: german translation update <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10617> || Changeset [10616]: add some missing fTools translation strings <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10616>
01:28:03 jef: cfarmer: hi. r10616, r10617 doesn't seem to do the trick. the menus are translated, but not the dialogs. what's wrong?
03:19:51 CIA-70: borysiasty * r10618 /trunk/qgis/i18n/qgis_pl_PL.ts: Polish translation update
03:19:52 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10618]: Polish translation update <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10618>
03:46:36 CIA-70: leolami * r10619 /trunk/qgis/src/plugins/grass/modules/try.qgm:
03:46:37 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10619]: -- <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10619>
03:47:05 CIA-70: leolami * r10620 /trunk/qgis/src/plugins/grass/modules/try.qgm:
03:49:21 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10620]: -- <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10620>
05:00:04 jef: timlinux: hi. thoughts about https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1638#comment:3?
05:00:06 sigq: Title: #1638 ( copy/paste of attributes/layers ( merge ) gives unexpected results( ? ) ) - Quantum GIS - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org )
05:18:48 CIA-70: borysiasty * r10621 /trunk/qgis/i18n/qgis_pl_PL.ts: Polish translation update
05:19:56 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10621]: Polish translation update <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10621>
05:54:20 cengel248: \join #qgis-community-team
05:55:14 macho: \join #qgis-community-team
05:55:18 macho: :D
05:55:40 cengel248: /#qgis-community-team
05:55:55 macho: hehehe
05:57:34 aghisla: cfarmer: it's time to join #qgis-community-team!
06:43:05 timlinux: jef: so he wants cut and paste to strictly check that col names are the same name and type and if they don't match add extra cols to accommodate them? I'd agree with you I would rather no new cols were added and inserts were only done for matchable cols, rest being left off.
06:44:11 timlinux: jef what grass prefix are you using for your win build?
06:44:30 timlinux: where is svn? I see only rc3 here - is svn the better working one?
06:45:16 timlinux: oh wait found svn now
06:46:04 pcav: timlinux: jef: I have a guy on stage here
06:46:20 pcav: he's rewriting the grass shell for the grass plugin
06:46:35 pcav: hopefuly we'll send you a patch tomorrow
06:48:03 timlinux: pcav: Radim?
06:48:32 pcav: not, a young
06:49:10 timlinux: pcav: did you see my test win build: https://linfiniti.com/qgis
06:49:22 timlinux: rebuilding it with grass svn now though
06:50:06 pcav: timlinux: no win here, sorry
06:50:42 macho: timlinux: is it a fully funtional qgis without osgeo4w ?
06:52:01 timlinux: macho: yes
06:52:07 timlinux: completely standalone installer
06:52:18 macho: wow
06:52:22 timlinux: takes libs from osgeo4w but they are all packaged
06:52:44 macho: so i'm going to geet that - rather the complete osgeo package
06:52:58 timlinux: the installer is Marco Pasettis original installer tweaked a little so will be familiar to the point and click crowd
06:53:05 timlinux: macho: its still a test build
06:53:15 macho: :(
06:53:23 timlinux: I'm busy remaking it with grass svn libs from osgeo4w
06:53:30 timlinux: which I think is working better for grass stuff
06:53:42 timlinux: macho: it works fine for non grass stuff
06:53:50 timlinux: just the grass side needs testing
06:54:56 jctull: timlinux: any success with the macbook build?
06:55:05 timlinux: haven't looked again yet
06:55:21 timlinux: but I think it will build with the spatial lite when I get it
06:55:27 timlinux: all python stuff built
06:55:28 jctull: I did not get a chance to try the qgis spatialite sources either
06:55:34 : * timlinux takes dog for walk
06:55:35 jctull: good on the python
06:55:39 jctull: cheers
06:55:41 timlinux: back in a few
06:55:55 : * macho visits his girlfriend in hospital ..
06:55:57 macho: c u
07:03:29 cfarmer: join #qgis-community-team
07:11:06 CIA-70: borysiasty * r10622 /trunk/qgis/i18n/qgis_pl_PL.ts: Polish translation update
07:11:08 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10622]: Polish translation update <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10622>
08:17:10 dassouki: http://imgur.com/D1cv is there a way i can subtract my buffer layer ( orange ) from the residence one ( yellow )
08:17:11 sigq: Title: imgur : the simple image sharer ( at imgur.com )
08:30:45 wildintellect: dassouki, yes with the ftools plugin
08:31:51 wildintellect: if you want to completely cut it use the difference tool
08:32:01 wildintellect: in the geoprocessing menu
08:32:44 wildintellect: if you need to only effect the yellow and not the other colors of that background layer, 1st select the yellow and save to a new layer and perform the operation on the new layer
08:33:21 dassouki: wildintellect: i should've been clearer, i just wanted the difference in numbers
08:33:42 wildintellect: oh you want the difference in values
08:33:56 wildintellect: then run an interesct
08:34:09 wildintellect: it will give you polygons that have values from both tables
08:34:28 wildintellect: or do you just mean difference in count
08:36:57 dassouki: wildintellect: this is a better image http://imgur.com/D1F
08:36:59 sigq: Title: imgur : the simple image sharer ( at imgur.com )
08:37:02 dassouki: and represents what i' mdoing exactly
08:37:41 dassouki: for each of the zones outlined by the green line, i'd like to find out the area of the buffer area ( orange ) and the residence area ( yellow )
08:37:58 wildintellect: ah that's different
08:38:38 dassouki: wildintellect: my initial question was to find the difference in areas in numbers between the two, and i figured if i know how to do that i can fingure the other on my own
08:38:58 wildintellect: intersect each of the 2 layers with the green polygons
08:39:13 wildintellect: then calculate the area of each remaining polygon
08:39:44 wildintellect: per each green polygon compare the value of the area for yellow vs. orange
08:39:59 wildintellect: the last part can be done in a spreadsheet or database or stats program
08:40:21 dassouki: done
08:40:27 dassouki: the intersection is done
08:40:34 dassouki: qgis just crashed .. ugh
08:42:04 wildintellect: fyi you can do the whole analysis entirely in spatialite if you know sql
08:43:25 dassouki: umm can i do it with shapefiles or do i need to convert my layers to postgis
08:43:38 wildintellect: no spatialite can load shapefiles
08:43:44 wildintellect: I'm talking sqlite here
08:43:46 wildintellect: not postgis
08:44:00 wildintellect: http://www.gaia-gis.it/spatialite/
08:44:01 sigq: Title: SpatiaLite download page ( at www.gaia-gis.it )
08:44:05 wildintellect: sorry gotta run
08:44:11 dassouki: no problem, thanks for the help :D
08:55:47 dassouki: in the keyword search for better table, when i do R* in keyword ( i'm trying to select all the rows wiht a keyword starting with R ) , it selects all the rows in the layer
08:57:37 dassouki: ah all i had to do with R
10:43:56 CIA-70: macho * r10623 /trunk/qgis/i18n/qgis_ru.ts: translation update:russian from artem
10:44:53 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10623]: translation update:russian from artem <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10623>
10:49:01 CIA-70: macho * r10624 /branches/Version-1_0/i18n/qgis_es.ts: translation update: es from carlos
10:49:03 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10624]: translation update: es from carlos <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10624>
10:51:00 CIA-70: macho * r10625 /trunk/qgis/i18n/qgis_es.ts: translation update: es from Carlos
10:51:35 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10625]: translation update: es from Carlos <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10625>
11:15:07 rduif: macho: duh a lot of strings to translate for trunk ...
11:15:16 rduif: when's the deadline?
11:19:03 jctull: I just built from svn and qgis crashes when I try to open the CRS dialog in an existing project
11:33:35 macho: rduif: soon - unfortunately
11:34:27 rduif: macho: ok I'm trying, will see how far I will come
11:40:52 macho: rduif: are you alone?
11:41:07 rduif: uh :- ) yes ??
11:41:28 rduif: no secrets eh ;- )
11:42:12 macho: : ) - i mean - no translation team?
11:43:15 rduif: actually we are with two, but I think there is not enough time to collaborate now
11:43:40 macho: i see
11:44:00 macho: well hard times .. i have no time to do anything either .. busy times nowadays
11:44:13 rduif: can I sent you something tomorrow evening, or is that too late?
11:45:29 CIA-70: sholl * r10626 /docs/trunk/english_us/user_guide/working_with_ogc.tex:
11:45:29 CIA-70: First changes to the OGC-chapter
11:45:29 CIA-70: More to come
11:45:31 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10626]: First changes to the OGC-chapter More to come <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10626>
11:46:06 macho: hmm i dont know the exact time when release will be tagged - but .. of course you can send me - i'll check it in as soon as i recieve it
12:09:37 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1647 ( enhancement created ): Import Inkscape SVG drawing into Print Composer <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1647>
12:17:10 timlinux: rduif: hi
12:17:21 timlinux: I will branch tomorrow evening
12:17:44 macho: so it will be close ..
12:17:45 timlinux: rduif: I will try to do as late as possible
12:19:58 timlinux: macho: did you attend the community team meeting?
12:21:32 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1648 ( enhancement created ): Rotate Map Window in Print Composer <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1648>
12:22:22 macho: timlinux: just a short while - my girlfriend is in hospital right now
12:23:40 rduif: timlinux: hi!
12:26:05 timlinux: hi richard :- )
12:26:14 timlinux: macho: nothing serious I hope! ?
13:19:59 CIA-70: macho * r10627 /trunk/qgis/i18n/qgis_nl.ts: translation update: nl from Richard
13:20:00 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10627]: translation update: nl from Richard <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10627>
13:22:11 macho: timlinux: fallen down the stairs and ligaments cracked
13:33:18 timlinux: macho: urf!
13:34:01 timlinux: macho: you can give here some translation work to do while she is stuck in bed in the hospital :- )
13:40:58 wildint: community-team meeting - did I miss an announcement?
13:47:36 springmeyer: hey guys, anyone know what the 'uic' module is and why it would be missing from PyQt4?
13:47:50 springmeyer: here is a paste of the error:
13:48:05 springmeyer: http://dpaste.com/36842/
13:48:08 sigq: Title: dpaste: #36842 ( at dpaste.com )
13:49:12 CIA-70: borysiasty * r10628 /trunk/qgis/i18n/qgis_pl_PL.ts: Polish translation update
13:49:14 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10628]: Polish translation update <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10628>
14:06:05 timlinux: hi spacedman
14:06:07 timlinux: oops
14:06:20 timlinux: hi springmeyer
14:06:45 jef: too late too
14:06:59 timlinux: I don't see his part message
14:07:07 timlinux: jef you busy?
14:07:34 timlinux: I have a problem with grass under win build ( for 1.0.2 )
14:07:45 timlinux: when I try to create a new mapset
14:08:07 timlinux: if I try to set the projection it crashes ( using epsg 4326 )
14:08:12 timlinux: can you replicate that?
14:09:01 jef: timlinux: did you set GRASS_PROJSHARE?
14:09:33 timlinux: jef er
14:09:37 timlinux: what is that?
14:09:41 timlinux: never heard of it
14:09:50 timlinux: :- )
14:10:02 timlinux: cmake setting?
14:10:05 timlinux: env setting?
14:10:13 jef: timlinux: another environment variable. etc/ini/grass.bat
14:10:17 doktoreas: hi timlinux I was just looking for you
14:10:25 timlinux: hi doktoreas
14:10:33 timlinux: are you the lucky google soc winner?
14:11:07 doktoreas: no
14:11:15 doktoreas: no more student :(
14:11:36 doktoreas: finally got some free time and so I decided tos tart the wps qgis plugin
14:11:49 doktoreas: do you know if anyone is working on something like this?
14:11:53 timlinux: jef under c:\program files\quantum gis\grass\etc? I don't have an ini dir there
14:12:13 jef: timlinux: at least that's the bell it rings for me. http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/37
14:12:14 sigq: Title: #37 ( grass: wxpython gui issues ) - OSGeo4W - Trac ( at trac.osgeo.org )
14:12:34 timlinux: doktoreas: oh that would be great! doktoreas jachym cepisky and I chatted a but about the poss of making a generic wps client for qgis
14:13:03 doktoreas: jep today I told him the same thing and he pointed me to you
14:13:35 jef: timlinux: osgeo4w has one. any every batch file source it ( qgis, grass, gdal... )
14:14:39 timlinux: if I am running from my msvc built qgis by double clicking on the exe?
14:15:22 timlinux: doktoreas: yes I have started playing around with pywps - I want to make a data clip service for a client
14:15:24 jef: timlinux: you don't have it. dunno if that's harmful.
14:15:38 timlinux: but at the moment I don't even get hello world yet :-(
14:15:52 doktoreas: timlinux, I am an old pywps user..since the first release :D
14:16:11 timlinux: jef by the way I was thinking to branch for 1.0.2 release tomorrow at the same time as making 1.1 branch
14:16:17 timlinux: doktoreas: cool
14:16:21 doktoreas: but I don't wanna any more web interface :D
14:16:30 doktoreas: *see
14:16:36 timlinux: yup :- )
14:17:02 doktoreas: timlinux, do you think we can start some brainstorming on the pywps ML or QGIS?
14:17:40 timlinux: doktoreas: sure - I am going to be out of contact for 10 days or so starting on fri
14:17:52 timlinux: and tomorrow I don't think I will be available much either
14:18:11 doktoreas: I'll take this time reading some doc about QT
14:18:24 timlinux: doktoreas: I was thinking one could use the Qt capability to dynamically compile and run .ui's at runtime
14:18:34 timlinux: since ui is just xml
14:18:58 timlinux: we could do something clever like an xslt to convert the capabilities of the wps into a ui
14:19:10 doktoreas: yep same idea
14:19:23 timlinux: my xslt isn't good enough to do that myself without a lot of effort
14:19:34 timlinux: but I can cheer from the sidelines :- )
14:19:35 doktoreas: Would be good to have something like the grass plugin, to run more process at the same time
14:20:22 doktoreas: basicall in the first window you choose the process, and then a new tab is open
14:20:45 doktoreas: there the input are created by the capabilities
19:01:45 jctull: anyone online building from source?
19:01:59 jctull: i.e., with a current source build ( not in the process... )
19:21:48 FrankW: jctull: I build from trunk source if that is what you mean.
19:22:35 jctull: I was looking for someone else with a qgs project file on hand.
19:22:57 jctull: When I click the CRS settings icon in the bottom right, it is crashing on me.
19:23:15 jctull: Only on existing projects, not blank or new ones.
19:23:41 FrankW: I do not seem to have any old .qgs project files sitting around.
19:24:21 jctull: No worries. I'm away for quite some time. Hopefully someone will root it out over the next week or so.
19:24:46 jctull: I'll file a quick bug report
19:31:01 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1649 ( bug created ): CRS status icon click crashes on existing project files <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1649>
19:49:32 CIA-70: kyngchaos * r10629 /trunk/qgis/mac/xcode/ ( 3 files in 2 dirs ): handle Qt debug variants; basic debug help
19:50:22 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10629]: handle Qt debug variants; basic debug help <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10629>
21:03:15 ex-parrot1: can anyone tell me
21:03:22 ex-parrot1: if I've loaded some free map data ( from mapcentre ) in to qgis
21:03:28 ex-parrot1: can I enter a lat / long to have it jump to the coordinates somehow?
21:05:18 ex-parrot1: or place a point, either would be fine
21:08:15 cgs_bob: ex-parrot1: there are plugins that can do both jump to as well as place point at a coordinate
21:08:36 ex-parrot1: where could I find them?
21:08:39 ex-parrot1: ... on the website, I guess :P
21:09:07 ex-parrot1: I am a bit of a newcomer to GIS... if I convert some mapcentre data then load it as vector layers... will qgis have an idea of the "absolute" coordinates and scale of the data loaded?
21:09:12 ex-parrot1: or do I have to give it a frame of rerence?
21:09:27 cgs_bob: you should be able to get them with the plugin manager
21:09:56 ex-parrot1: you mean they should be shipped with the package?
21:10:33 cgs_bob: what kind of data are you using...shapefile, geotiffs, etc?
21:11:09 ex-parrot1: shapefiles, converted from the free data at mapcentre
21:11:09 cgs_bob: do you currently have qgis on your system? what version?
21:11:13 ex-parrot1: 1.0.1
21:12:39 cgs_bob: go to the Plugins menu and select "Fetch Python plugins". you should see a bunch of plugins ready to be downloaded
21:12:44 ex-parrot1: brilliant, thanks
21:12:53 ex-parrot1: I'm hoping to plot in realtime data relayed from a weather balloon w.r.t its position
21:13:17 ex-parrot1: there's no "fetch python plugins" option...
21:14:22 cgs_bob: try clicking on Manage Plugins and see if fetch python plugins is in there
21:14:26 ex-parrot1: ok
21:14:47 cgs_bob: and enable any plugins you think might be handy
21:14:56 ex-parrot1: doesn't seem to be there :(
21:15:18 cgs_bob: so, what is under the Plugins menu?
21:15:25 ex-parrot1: a whole load of plugins
21:15:39 ex-parrot1: oh sorry
21:15:42 ex-parrot1: Manage Plugins...
21:15:45 ex-parrot1: and Python Console
21:16:17 cgs_bob: and you saw nothing when you clicked on Manage Plugins?
21:16:29 ex-parrot1: it's full of plugins, but none of them are useful for what I'm trying to do
21:17:01 cgs_bob: I'm hoping that onme of them is the Fetch Python plugin
21:17:09 ex-parrot1: no such luck :(
21:17:31 cgs_bob: are you on windows?
21:17:37 ex-parrot1: linux
21:17:43 ex-parrot1: I found it on the website, don't worry :P
21:17:48 cgs_bob: good : )
21:18:23 ex-parrot1: also kind of disappointed that the "lines" layer from this map comes out in only one colour... not very useful for displaying roads etc but I guess that's how GIS works?
21:18:50 cgs_bob: hold on a bit...got to check something
21:18:54 ex-parrot1: ok
21:25:54 cgs_bob: ex-parrot1: so, are you sure you do not see the Python Plugin Installer in Manage Plugins?
21:27:05 cgs_bob: btw, I compile qgis from source and it just works for me : )
21:27:43 ex-parrot1: I got it working with the package from the website
21:27:54 ex-parrot1: had to put it in ~/.qgis/python/plugins
21:27:55 ex-parrot1: then restart
21:29:27 ex-parrot1: I think I might just use a paper map... this doesn't seem to do what I want :/
21:29:30 cgs_bob: glad you found it. now you got to find the plugins you need.
21:31:14 cgs_bob: what do you want to do? I know you want to get real time data from weather balloons...which you can't do with paper maps : )
21:31:53 ex-parrot1: well, the data I will end up with is just GPS coords in lat/long
21:32:01 ex-parrot1: but I need a map I can use to follow the balloon and this isn't very good for that :P
21:33:10 ex-parrot1: thanks anyway
21:33:10 ex-parrot1: cya
22:26:01 pcav: $ ping osgeo.org
22:26:02 pcav: PING osgeo.org ( 66.223.95.242 ) 56( 84 ) bytes of data.
22:26:02 pcav: .....
22:33:41 pcav: 388 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 387293ms
22:46:59 CIA-70: dassau * r10630 /docs/trunk/english_us/ ( 2 files in 2 dirs ): changed natbib options to numbers to hopefully compile under Windows/Msys/Miktex
22:54:38 cgs_bob: pcav: I can't ping from my computer, but I have no problems visiting http://osgeo.org
22:54:41 sigq: Title: OSGeo.org | Your Open Source Compass ( at osgeo.org )
22:55:16 pcav: cgs_bob: very slow from here though
22:57:02 cgs_bob: pcav: sorry to hear that. isn't osgeo.org in the USA?
22:57:17 cgs_bob: btw, I'm in California : )
23:03:04 wildintellect: pcav, it may be configured to respond to pings in such a way that a DOS can't be done
23:03:38 wildintellect: ie, it may be configured not to respond to pings
23:10:15 pcav: please have a look to the patch
23:10:19 pcav: I just sent
23:10:29 pcav: it is quite important for grass users
23:39:52 doktoreas: morning