#QGIS IRC Log - 2009-04-24

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00:16:37 jef: macho: did you look at the r10648 beforehand? the language=es is gone again and the numerusforms were converted back. which tool ( and version ) does carlos use to translate?
00:28:28 macho: jef: sorry - i'm currently too much busy with my real work ..
00:28:41 macho: until next wednesday i'm filled up with stuff
00:29:52 macho: jef: but i promise to investigate and improve translation process once i have some air to breath
02:31:34 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1651 ( bug created ): QGIS crashes after toggeling editmode when attribute table is open <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1651>
03:11:48 markusN: ping jef
03:14:58 jef: pong
03:21:20 markusN: jef: since recently ( 2 weeks? ) I have troubles with the map refresh in the Version_1 branch
03:21:38 markusN: I have recompiled everything but it won't help
03:21:56 markusN: loading either GRASS raster or vector map slows down extremely the display in QGIS
03:22:06 markusN: even mouse-over the map freezes it
03:22:22 markusN: for 15-20 seconds ( CPU at 100% ), then I can continue
03:22:46 : * markusN heading for a GFOSS conf on sunday to showcase also QGIS
03:34:24 CIA-70: jef * r10649 /trunk/qgis/src/app/attributetable/qgsattributetabledialog.cpp: fix #1651
03:34:25 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10649]: fix #1651 <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10649>
03:37:20 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1651 ( bug closed ): QGIS crashes after toggeling editmode when attribute table is open <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1651#comment:2>
04:35:23 markusN: any QGIS-1.0.2svn-GRASS user here?
05:04:36 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1652 ( bug created ): Map refresh 15sec freezes with GRASS maps <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1652>
05:57:12 dcope: hi all! anyone able to get the 'new' Toporama WMS service to work? - http://wms.ess-ws.nrcan.gc.ca/wms-bin/toporama_en - i'm unable to get it to work at all--getting a 'not connected' message in QGIS
06:34:07 CIA-70: sholl * r10650 /docs/trunk/english_us/user_guide/ ( 4 files in 2 dirs ):
06:34:07 CIA-70: * working_with_ogc.tex, working_with_ogc_screenies/wms_server-search.png,
06:34:07 CIA-70: working_with_ogc_screenies/Makefile: updated to reflect the WMS-server-search-parts
06:34:07 CIA-70: * working_with_ogc_screenies/connection_wms.png: updated screener
07:01:26 epifanio: hi all
07:01:34 dassouki: hello
07:02:31 epifanio: recompiling qgis on a new linux, i enabled grass plug-in in cmake ( it recognize grass ) ... but tryto run qgis i can't see any grass entry in the plug-in manager
07:02:39 epifanio: how can i debug it ?
07:05:11 epifanio: i can see that the "make install" step, do not copy any grass file inside the build dir
07:30:53 pcav: nice!
07:31:04 pcav: the shell is working
07:52:53 epifanio: humm err i *can* see the grass plug-in in the make log : these the log of make http://dpaste.com/37420/ make install after build it : http://pastebin.com/m59be8c63
07:52:54 sigq: Title: dpaste: #37420 ( at dpaste.com )
07:53:48 epifanio: but i haven't a grass entry in the plug-in manage :-( i'm on revision : 10650
07:59:42 il_rugginoso: hi all
08:02:57 epifanio: hi ... apologize my terrorism ... is my fault ... i had grass libs in a non standard place, i forghet to modify /etc/ld.so.con.d/grass.conf .. according to the new path
08:03:19 epifanio: now all works fine! ... exuseme
08:15:41 dassouki: i'm not sure if this logic is correct or not, but here's what i'm trying to do:
08:15:48 pcav: nobody dares to test the new shinig shell?
08:16:08 dassouki: in order to find the distance between a point on a point layer and a line on a line layer,
08:16:26 dassouki: i plan to draw circles from the point layers until it touches the line layer
08:16:39 dassouki: the distance will be equal to the radius
08:17:36 dassouki: or am i way off in the rhubarb
08:29:02 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1653 ( bug created ): Segmentation Fault in FC10 <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1653>
08:37:03 sigq: tracfeed: Ticket #1653 ( bug closed ): Segmentation Fault in FC10 <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1653#comment:1>
09:12:52 jef: pcav: didn't it work yesterday already?
09:23:06 wildintellect: dassouki, you know there's a tool in grass that does that?
09:23:28 dassouki: wildintellect: for vector data ? sweet, what's it called !!
09:26:19 wildintellect: gimme a sec to rememeber
09:26:24 wildintellect: v.distance
09:28:07 wildintellect: I used it once to connect peoples houses( points ) to the nearest line( roads ) so I could do network analysis
09:28:41 wildintellect: the output is a layer of lines that go from the point to the nearest point on the line
09:28:44 dassouki: wildintellect: do u mind sharing that code? i'm trying to connect centroids to lines, to do some transportation road analysis
09:29:11 wildintellect: gimme a little while to dig up what actually worked
09:29:23 dassouki: thank u
09:29:26 wildintellect: but it was pretty much v.distance, v.patch, v.net
09:30:20 dassouki: interesting, i've never used grass :$
11:56:51 pcav: jef: just a missing # to have it compiled
11:56:57 pcav: now it's ok
12:02:57 pcav: jef: if you could compile it in win, it would be great
12:03:09 pcav: it should work
12:03:16 pcav: the widget should be portable
12:03:33 jef: pcav: does it include a shell?
12:04:00 pcav: it *is* a shell
12:04:14 pcav: a proper one
12:04:23 jef: pcav: qtermwidget sounds more like a terminal.
12:05:10 pcav: yes, and inside you have a terminal
12:05:13 gsherman: jef, any thoughts on the slow downs with pg and grass that people have been reporting?
12:05:32 pcav: vt100 now, but it can be replaced bu xterm if preferred
12:06:20 jef: gsherman: I don't think there are postgres slowdowns. andreas just has a project with complex views.
12:06:48 gsherman: ah ok. and for grass that markusN reported?
12:07:11 pcav: gsherman: it seems to happen on 1.0.2 only?
12:07:23 jef: gsherman: no idea. I didn't look into that.
12:07:54 gsherman: i'm not sure what versions are involved, only saw mention of it in the logs
12:08:14 pcav: markusN is using 1.0.2 just branched
12:08:23 pcav: in trunk everithing ok
12:08:29 pcav: at least here
12:08:43 gsherman: odd, i wouldn't think there would be any changes in the 1.0.x branch to cause that
12:09:11 markusN: it happens on https://svn.osgeo.org/qgis/branches/Version-1_0
12:09:12 sigq: Title: Revision 10650: /branches/Version-1_0 ( at svn.osgeo.org )
12:09:20 : * markusN also confused
12:09:43 gsherman: markusN, have you tried trunk and if so does it work?
12:10:48 markusN: I can try now
12:14:40 dassouki: just mesing around with api, i'm trying to list the plugions so i did: print QgsProviderRegistry.pluginList( ) returns exceptions.TypeError: first argument of unbound method QgsProviderRegistry.pluginList( ) must be a QgsProviderRegistry instance .... what did i do wrong?
12:16:14 CIA-70: jef * r10651 /trunk/qgis/scripts/ ( ts2cpp.pl update_ts_files.sh ): consider comments in python plugin translations
12:18:06 sigq: tracfeed: Changeset [10651]: consider comments in python plugin translations <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10651>
12:40:03 markusN: gsherman: trunk is ok and doesn't show the slowdown problem
12:40:13 gsherman: markusN, wow, that is strange
12:40:17 gsherman: thanks for the test
12:40:21 markusN: so it was apparently recently introduced in 1.0.2svn
12:41:46 : * markusN fetches Version-1_0 branch again
12:47:55 : * markusN recompiles
13:12:45 : * markusN is getting crazy
13:12:54 gsherman: now it works?
13:12:56 markusN: now in 1.0.2svn no longer slow
13:13:02 gsherman: : )
13:13:08 markusN: but GRASS icons are white
13:13:12 gsherman: friday gremlins
13:13:17 : * markusN guesses icon positions
13:13:19 markusN: aarg
13:13:36 markusN: I change one showstopper with another... :(
13:13:46 gsherman: maybe you should use windows : )
13:13:48 markusN: leaving to a GFOSS conf in 36hs from now
13:13:52 markusN: yeah!
13:13:56 markusN: wine maybe
13:14:14 gsherman: so icons on the grass plugin toolbar are missing?
13:14:25 markusN: not missing, white
13:14:30 markusN: they actually work
13:14:39 markusN: some style heck
13:14:51 jef: markusN: for every theme?
13:14:52 markusN: I guess it doesn't set properly which icon set to use
13:14:53 gsherman: try changing the icon theme in options
13:14:58 markusN: will do
13:15:28 markusN: uffa no themes available
13:15:49 markusN: not end of a hard day but hard end of a day :/
13:15:49 gsherman: hmm
13:16:00 markusN: delete $HOME/.qgis ?
13:16:28 gsherman: you could; i wonder if you have other conflicting parts of previous installs
13:17:19 markusN: ok, I'll wipe out all
13:17:28 markusN: also have Couldn't load PyQGIS. http://rafb.net/p/vHzO6d29.html
13:17:29 sigq: Title: Nopaste - No description ( at rafb.net )
13:18:30 markusN: sorry for being so whiney : )
13:18:38 gsherman: no worries
13:18:40 : * markusN reinstalles 1_0_2 branch
13:18:51 markusN: Compile & Install done.
13:19:12 markusN: ah!! PyQGIS error gone
13:19:19 markusN: icons back
13:19:30 markusN: seems indeed to have been an install mess
13:19:36 gsherman: that can happen
13:19:40 gsherman: so all is well?
13:19:54 markusN: mhh
13:20:05 markusN: weren't there silk GRASS icons?
13:20:44 markusN: I am using the "gis" theme
13:21:01 markusN: maybe not don't remember
13:21:06 markusN: now speed test
13:21:07 gsherman: i don't either
13:21:56 markusN: slow is back :(
13:23:26 gsherman: markusN, what version of qt are you using?
13:24:14 markusN: qt4.4.3
13:24:43 markusN: it takes 2.7sec to display a 3000x4000 Landsat with d.rast in GRASS
13:24:49 markusN: in QGIS it takes 20sec
13:24:59 markusN: I think due to this "hanging" effect
13:25:00 gsherman: markusN, what gdal version?
13:25:14 markusN: panning in QGIS 102svn also hanging
13:25:38 gsherman: this happens only with grass layers?
13:29:33 macho: re
13:32:44 markusN: seems to be ok
13:32:51 markusN: I tested several geotiffs
13:33:11 gsherman: i'm building 1.02 branch now
13:33:29 gsherman: markusN, what grass version are you using?
13:34:50 markusN: 6.5.svn
13:34:58 markusN: develbranch_6
13:35:10 markusN: I have now also time'ed the GRASS-GDAL plugin:
13:35:18 markusN: time gdal_translate /home/neteler/grassdata/patUTM32/neteler/cellhd/pat_landsat30_rgb dd.tif
13:35:21 markusN: 7 seconds
13:35:45 markusN: so I am afraid to say that it appears to be in QGIS
13:35:46 : * gsherman must need a grass update- 6.3rc3 seems a bit old
13:35:52 markusN: : )
13:35:59 markusN: kind'a museum
13:36:21 markusN: I suggest
13:36:24 markusN: svn checkout http://svn.osgeo.org/grass/grass/branches/releasebranch_6_4
13:36:25 sigq: Title: Revision 36891: /grass/branches/releasebranch_6_4 ( at svn.osgeo.org )
13:36:43 gsherman: thanks
13:38:23 markusN: which distro do you use?
13:38:29 gsherman: ubuntu
13:39:20 markusN: ( the 6.3 inst stuff should still work )
13:39:25 markusN: see also http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Compile_and_Install#Ubuntu
13:39:27 sigq: Title: Compile and Install - GRASS-Wiki ( at grass.osgeo.org )
13:46:08 epifanio: hi All, playing around grass-qgis on Rev: 10649, open the create location wizard , then instead of continue in the wizard , hit "cnacel" give me a segfault
13:55:16 gsherman: markusN, it doesn't like any of my grass rasters for some reason
13:56:22 markusN: did you install the GRASS-GDAL plugin?
13:56:47 gsherman: i thought i already had that since my first attempt was with my grass 6.3 install
13:57:01 wildint: gsherman, we know about that issue - it's all about the grass-gdal plugin
13:57:15 wildint: ah but if you changed the gdal version you have to recompile it
13:57:17 : * gsherman doesn't normally use the plugin
13:57:22 markusN: if new GRASS you need to recompile it
13:57:25 markusN: sure
13:57:39 gsherman: ( the grass-gdal plugin )
13:59:31 markusN: yes
13:59:35 markusN: need help with that?
13:59:52 gsherman: i used to do it the hard way
14:00:04 gsherman: ( compile gdal twice )
14:00:51 markusN: oh gosh
14:00:57 markusN: that's asking for troubles
14:01:05 : * gsherman hasn't compiled qgis/grass on ubuntu in a while
14:01:15 gsherman: markusN, used to work fine in the "old" days
14:01:35 markusN: that's correct
14:01:39 markusN: but no longer...
14:01:59 gsherman: hmm
14:02:00 markusN: see http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Compile_and_install_GRASS_and_QGIS_with_GDAL/OGR_Plugin
14:02:03 sigq: Title: Compile and install GRASS and QGIS with GDAL/OGR Plugin - GRASS-Wiki ( at grass.osgeo.org )
14:02:16 markusN: Installation -> 6. GDAL/OGR-GRASS plugin
14:02:22 markusN: just to save you time & stress
14:02:47 gsherman: was looking at that - the link at 6 is dead
14:02:50 markusN: GDAL/OGR to be compiled without GRASS support
14:03:03 markusN: the plugin is there to avoid circular dependencies
14:03:12 : * gsherman might as well update gdal/ogr to 1.6 at the same time
14:03:22 : * markusN in fi mode
14:03:24 markusN: fix
14:04:24 markusN: thanks fixed
14:04:31 markusN: http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/
14:04:32 sigq: Title: Index of /gdal ( at download.osgeo.org )
14:04:53 gsherman: ah, i recompiled my gdal a while back, that's why my rasters don't work...
14:09:14 : * gsherman trying to load a grass raster--- taking forever...
14:10:06 markusN: so same problem... "good" that you can reproduce it
14:10:24 gsherman: oh, actually qgis crashed
14:10:35 gsherman: symbol lookup error: /usr/local/lib/gdalplugins/gdal_GRASS.so: undefined symbol: G__no_gisinit
14:11:06 markusN: did you add the path to LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
14:11:28 markusN: cat /etc/ld.so.conf.d/grass.conf
14:11:30 markusN: /home/neteler/grass64/dist.x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/lib
14:11:52 markusN: ( I am lazy and don't even install GRASS but use it from the build dir )
14:12:08 markusN: "ldconf" of course, too
14:12:27 gsherman: i think i need to rebuild qgis
14:12:40 gsherman: it's finding the plugin lib but not the symbol
14:15:17 markusN: please try ldd first
14:15:27 markusN: but yeah you will be right
14:21:55 : * gsherman rebuilding again
14:26:48 gsherman: 1.0.2 seems slow; now to build trunk for comparison on same data source
14:31:55 gsherman: error setting region - child process exited abnormally
14:32:46 markusN: uff
14:33:03 gsherman: odd
14:35:56 gsherman: my other raster location works, but they are small rasters
14:37:05 gsherman: hmm, all my "world" locations throw the error setting region...
14:40:25 markusN: can you please run "g.region -d" inside the mapset
14:40:27 markusN: ?
14:40:40 markusN: maybe your GRASS data set is very old
14:40:46 markusN: and g.region will fix it
14:42:12 gsherman: markusN, thanks, that fixed it
14:42:34 gsherman: gtopo of americas loads in 5-10 seconds using grass gui
14:42:50 : * gsherman times qgis load...
14:43:38 gsherman: markusN, now that my region is fixed it loaded in about 4 seconds
14:44:01 gsherman: zooming is slower, about 8 seconds
14:44:50 gsherman: markusN, not really seeing what i would describe as a freeze
14:44:52 markusN: how big is the gtopo map?
14:44:57 gsherman: umm
14:45:11 markusN: I had a 3000x4000 map
14:45:41 gsherman: Type of Map: raster Number of Categories: 6795 |
14:45:41 gsherman: | Data Type: CELL |
14:45:41 gsherman: | Rows: 21600 |
14:45:41 gsherman: | Columns: 43200
14:46:06 markusN: not bad
14:46:16 markusN: so I tried again, vector looks ok now
14:46:16 : * epiway goes out
14:46:30 markusN: lucky epiway
14:46:34 gsherman: heh
14:46:55 gsherman: i think performance on that data set is about same as i rember in qgis
14:47:04 gsherman: ( used it in my book example )
14:47:09 markusN: yep
14:47:18 markusN: ok, with spearfish it behaves ok now
14:47:30 markusN: maybe I had something odd in .qgis/ and the install dir
14:47:45 gsherman: i hope it is ok now---don't blink or it might change ; )
14:47:55 : * markusN glad to have upgraded gsherman's GDAL + GRASS ; )
14:48:03 gsherman: heh, thanks
14:48:04 markusN: thanks gsherman
14:48:11 gsherman: sure
14:48:25 markusN: I learned: always remove the install dir before installing again
14:48:42 markusN: will keep an eye on that potential slow issue
14:48:49 markusN: maybe some specific conditions
14:49:20 markusN: good night thanks
14:49:36 gsherman: g'nite and good luck : )
14:49:42 markusN: cheers