| 00:12:24 | CIA-70: | cfarmer * r10751 /docs/trunk/english_us/ ( 15 files in 5 dirs ): updates to several plugin sections, clean up screen captures... only plugin left is oracle georaster |
| 01:34:09 | macho: | hi all |
| 02:53:20 | il_rugginoso: | hi all |
| 03:17:19 | CIA-70: | cfarmer * r10752 /docs/trunk/english_us/user_guide/ ( 42 files in 2 dirs ): use default icons for ftools chapter, add other plugins section, adjust quick print dialog size |
| 04:19:32 | timlinux1: | https://linfiniti.com/qgis/ <-- qgis 1.1.0 Windows standalone binary installer |
| 04:47:59 | jef: | timlinux1: any news about the ppa? |
| 07:26:00 | dassouki: | is there a way i can add a column to a layer via api ? |
| 07:26:23 | dassouki: | what i'm looking at doing is add column foo, and fill it with a python list |
| 07:28:02 | strk: | pan crash o-oh |
| 07:28:15 | strk: | loaded a postgis layer, replaced the layer from psql |
| 07:28:19 | strk: | tried reopening |
| 07:28:40 | strk: | or, could be my code attempting to iteratively append _ till no name clashes :/ |
| 07:49:21 | spacedman: | anyone want to try and duplicate a crash for me? before i file a bug report... |
| 07:52:20 | spacedman: | i get a qgis crash if I load 'Actual ( slower )' values from a raster on the properties dialog if any of the band selectors are set to 'Not Set' |
| 07:52:44 | spacedman: | qgis 1.0.0 Kore |
| 07:54:45 | simgislab: | spacedman: I confirm, 1.0.2 under win |
| 07:57:49 | spacedman: | kthx, bugrep going in now... |
| 07:58:26 | simgislab: | nice, I'd like to see it fixed too |
| 07:58:53 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1682 ( bug created ): Loading min/max values crashes if a band property is 'Not Set' <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1682> |
| 07:59:30 | simgislab: | spacedman: as long as we're on this subject, do you think that std. dev should not be =0 by default? |
| 08:00:15 | spacedman: | i'd like my rasters to at least display *something* when they are loaded in... at the moment if i load a raster it just seems to be white... |
| 08:00:15 | simgislab: | I'm willing to file a feature request to make it =2 by default and/or add "save current setting as default" button |
| 08:01:44 | spacedman: | I'm not sure I understand the whole stretchy/clippy thing. Seems a bit unintuitive, but I think Pete E argued for it... |
| 08:02:04 | simgislab: | well, overall it is ok |
| 08:02:21 | simgislab: | it just doesn't make sense to have 0 Std.dev by default |
| 08:02:46 | spacedman: | the std dev is dependent on the scale of the data, right? |
| 08:02:54 | simgislab: | yes |
| 08:03:39 | spacedman: | i'm guessing the raster load doesn't want to have to compute min/maxes and stddevs on loading in case they are slow... |
| 08:05:08 | simgislab: | std should not be estimated from the data, it'll take too much time |
| 08:05:26 | simgislab: | usually it is set to 2 |
| 08:05:47 | simgislab: | band vals are normally distributed in 90% cases |
| 08:05:57 | spacedman: | but that's still useless if your data ranges from 0 to 1e10 |
| 08:06:41 | spacedman: | unless 2 is the number of standard deviations relative to the data... |
| 08:08:15 | simgislab: | yes, relative to the data, I was wrong about "should not be estimated" |
| 08:08:30 | spacedman: | ah okay - 2 is good then! |
| 08:09:01 | spacedman: | and maybe the dialog should say 'Use N standard deviations:' |
| 08:09:14 | simgislab: | agree |
| 08:09:28 | spacedman: | i'll let you submit this one then : ) |
| 08:09:33 | simgislab: | sure |
| 08:09:38 | simgislab: | I'm on it already |
| 08:11:31 | spacedman: | hmm i cant crash it now : ) |
| 08:12:28 | spacedman: | seems to reliably crash first time, but if you play with the dialog a bit it doesn't... oh well... |
| 08:14:14 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1683 ( enhancement created ): Standard deviations in raster properties dialog <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1683> |
| 08:14:54 | simgislab: | seems like if you calculated stats ones, it does not crash anymore |
| 08:19:56 | simgislab: | loading new raster and trying calcs crashes 'reliably' |
| 08:20:05 | spacedman: | yup |
| 08:22:09 | CIA-70: | jef * r10753 /trunk/qgis/src/core/raster/qgsrasterlayer.cpp: fix #1682 |
| 08:22:10 | sigq: | tracfeed: Changeset [10753]: fix #1682 <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10753> |
| 08:25:05 | sigq: | tracfeed: Ticket #1682 ( bug closed ): Loading min/max values crashes if a band property is 'Not Set' <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/1682#comment:1> |
| 08:26:31 | spacedman: | ooh the speediness! |
| 08:26:41 | simgislab: | : ) |
| 08:26:48 | simgislab: | jef rocks |
| 08:28:57 | simgislab: | jef: about the fix, do I understand right that now it just isn't trying to calc stats for 'no set' band? |
| 08:29:10 | spacedman: | hometime... |
| 08:32:58 | jef: | simgislab: it's returning no stats for the no set band. yes. |
| 08:37:26 | dassouki: | i wonder if it's easier to just create a new shape file rather than attempt to write a code to write a new column to an existing shape file. What to do, confusion arises |
| 08:38:11 | jef: | dassouki: QgsVectorLayer::addAttribute |
| 08:38:41 | dassouki: | jef: thanks :D |
| 08:41:28 | simgislab: | btw, is anybody currently working on adding fields to shapefile in core QGIS? |
| 08:48:30 | jef: | simgislab: huh? that's done. given a recent version of ogr. |
| 08:50:10 | simgislab: | jef: I saw that ogr finally allows that, but I did't see it in qgis table interface yet |
| 08:50:23 | simgislab: | may be I looked in the wrong place |
| 08:51:37 | jef: | simgislab: adding attributes has been there long time and worked for postgis. the ogr provider also supported it, but the ogr shapefile driver didn't. |
| 08:52:31 | simgislab: | hmm, but didn't it start supporting it too recently? adding fields to shapefiles |
| 08:53:11 | jef: | simgislab: yes and now the ogr driver reports that capability and you can add fields. |
| 08:53:30 | simgislab: | jef: but only programmatically? |
| 08:53:36 | jef: | simgislab: no |
| 08:54:02 | jef: | simgislab: vectorproperties, attributes tab |
| 08:54:12 | simgislab: | ah! |
| 08:54:16 | simgislab: | properties |
| 08:54:54 | simgislab: | now I see it, sorry I didn't have a look there right away, I was searching in table itself |
| 08:55:20 | jef: | simgislab: right, it used to be there. but I moved it. |
| 08:57:18 | simgislab: | jef: btw, I'm looking at 1.1 now and it seems like it doesn't allow to set size for fields |
| 08:57:34 | simgislab: | or I'm missing somethign again ... |
| 08:58:02 | jef: | simgislab: trunk does. iirc we were already in feature freeze. |
| 08:58:46 | simgislab: | latest trunk? I've got of your nightly builds now, pretty fresh |
| 09:00:42 | jef: | simgislab: ah, ok. we're still talking about adding fields and not creating shapefiles. |
| 09:00:50 | simgislab: | yep |
| 09:01:06 | simgislab: | creation is fine |
| 09:01:39 | jef: | simgislab: qgsvectorlayer doesn't know about width and precision yet - just "type" |
| 09:07:26 | simgislab: | hmm, just looked at it more, something weird is going on with adding fields ( latest nightly build ) |
| 09:09:19 | simgislab: | if I add field, with only type, save editings, it doesn't show up in the table, I need to remove shape-file and reload it, then fields are visible |
| 09:10:35 | jef: | simgislab: yes. the "better" attribute table isn't better there. the old used to connect to the signal vectorlayer emits when attributes are added. |
| 09:10:54 | simgislab: | "delete field" is also blocked, cannot delete a field |
| 09:11:29 | simgislab: | this stuff also results if ability to add multiple fields with the same name ... |
| 09:11:31 | jef: | simgislab: well, ogr doesn't support that yet. try a postgis layer and it'll be open |
| 09:12:29 | simgislab: | should fill a report on table not showing results of adding field? |
| 09:12:37 | simgislab: | *should I |
| 09:12:52 | jef: | simgislab: hm, that name conflict issue should be covered. |
| 09:13:07 | simgislab: | let me show you |
| 09:13:39 | simgislab: | http://gis-lab.info/images/screenshots/20090507-19i-68kb.jpg |
| 09:13:52 | simgislab: | note names |
| 09:19:28 | jef: | simgislab: interesting. I get name conflict. |
| 09:20:27 | simgislab: | yes, it doesn't allow to create fields with the same name if you trying to enter them, but |
| 09:21:54 | simgislab: | if you try this: 1 ) open the table, add field "new", 2 ) save edits, apply, close properties, 3 ) reopen properties ( note the just added field is missing ) 3 ) repeat 1, etc... |
| 09:24:22 | jef: | simgislab: hm, works for me. but I've too leave now. bbl |
| 09:24:42 | simgislab: | ok, thanks |
| 09:32:50 | CIA-70: | cfarmer * r10754 /docs/trunk/english_us/coding-compilation_guide/ ( plugins_writing_in_cpp.tex plugins_writing_in_python.tex ): updates to both plugin chapters of coding and compilation guide |
| 09:32:51 | sigq: | tracfeed: Changeset [10754]: updates to both plugin chapters of coding and compilation guide <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10754> |
| 10:13:11 | jctull: | jef: it appears that transparency settings are not being honored for saved styles on postgis layers |
| 10:19:15 | jctull: | Colors stick, but not transparency |
| 10:42:31 | jctull: | cfarmer: any thoughts on the join problem? It might have been related to some date columns with 00/00/0000 dates. |
| 10:42:50 | jctull: | I had to drop those columns to get shapefile to postgis export through shp2pgsql |
| 10:43:03 | jctull: | I have not tried your join tool since |
| 11:46:27 | timlinux: | jef I filed a ticket for the ppa at ubuntu questions |
| 11:46:28 | timlinux: | https://answers.launchpad.net/malone/+question/70328 |
| 11:46:30 | sigq: | Title: Launchpad Bugs question #70328: “How can I rename a ppa?” ( at answers.launchpad.net ) |
| 11:46:43 | timlinux: | ( after asking on #launchpad ) |
| 12:02:07 | cfarmer: | jctull: I haven't had a chance to look at that yet... sorry... I'm totally snowed under at the moment ( not literally, just swamped with deadlines ) |
| 12:02:37 | jctull: | no worries. |
| 12:03:18 | jctull: | I ended up using postgis, but I'm thinking it was those bad date columns. I'm crunching as well, so don't really have time to test that theory right now. |
| 12:05:49 | cfarmer: | timlinux: you wouldn't happen to have any screen grabs from your "Extending the functionality of QGIS with Python plugins" course at least years FOSS4G do you? |
| 12:06:09 | cfarmer: | If not I'll just create them myself for the manual... |
| 12:07:18 | timlinux: | cfarmer, um screengrabs no |
| 12:07:30 | timlinux: | it was all done live from the script |
| 12:08:13 | cgs_bob_: | not smoke and mirrors? ; ) |
| 12:08:19 | cfarmer: | ah coolio ok thanks... |
| 12:29:51 | doktoreas: | hola |
| 12:29:55 | doktoreas: | timlinux hi! |
| 12:30:16 | doktoreas: | I am testing your installer...it complians about MSVCR71.dll |
| 12:30:22 | doktoreas: | *complains |
| 12:32:50 | doktoreas: | also msvcp.dll |
| 12:57:58 | timlinux: | doktoreas, :-( |
| 12:58:15 | doktoreas: | hi timlinux |
| 12:58:18 | timlinux: | doktoreas, did you install the runtime stuff? |
| 12:58:26 | doktoreas: | yep |
| 12:58:38 | doktoreas: | but with the 2 dll put by hand, all is fine |
| 12:59:21 | doktoreas: | msvcp71 e msvcr71 |
| 13:00:44 | timlinux: | doktoreas, ok I will add them and repackage |
| 13:00:54 | doktoreas: | thx tim |
| 13:00:56 | timlinux: | not sure why they were needed |
| 13:01:12 | timlinux: | I guess no-one else complained because they already have them somewhere |
| 13:01:21 | timlinux: | I can only upload again tomorrow |
| 13:01:35 | doktoreas: | np :D mine is a fresh win xp installation |
| 13:02:04 | timlinux: | doktoreas, ok thats good to know |
| 13:02:12 | timlinux: | doktoreas, many thanks for testing! |
| 13:02:19 | timlinux: | doktoreas, were you able to do anything with grass? |
| 13:02:23 | doktoreas: | to you for the great work |
| 13:02:42 | doktoreas: | nope..no testing for GRASS |
| 13:02:55 | doktoreas: | The course is on qgis only : ) |
| 13:10:22 | timlinux: | doktoreas, :- ) |
| 13:10:45 | timlinux: | doktoreas, which version will you use for the the course? |
| 13:11:17 | doktoreas: | yours :D |
| 13:11:30 | timlinux: | no I meant 1 or 1.1 :- ) |
| 13:12:22 | doktoreas: | 1.1..the scalebar is not working for 1.0.2 :( |
| 13:12:36 | timlinux: | oh? |
| 13:13:02 | doktoreas: | I tested scalebar with 1.0.2 coming from Osgeo4W and it crashs |
| 13:13:35 | doktoreas: | when I add it to printer composer |
| 13:15:39 | cfarmer: | anyone know why I keep getting a segfault when I try to run the python mainwindow examples? |
| 13:16:24 | timlinux: | cfarmer, nope :-( |
| 13:16:35 | timlinux: | cfarmer, under linux? |
| 13:16:52 | timlinux: | cfarmer, have you maybe got two versions of QGIS mixed in your lib path? |
| 13:18:00 | cfarmer: | uh probably.... maybe I'll do a fresh clean install... yes under linux... |
| 13:18:50 | cfarmer: | it all works fine... but then I get: |
| 13:18:51 | cfarmer: | ( render ) ========== Rendering ========== |
| 13:18:53 | cfarmer: | empty extent... not rendering |
| 13:18:55 | cfarmer: | Segmentation fault |
| 13:21:57 | timlinux: | cfarmer, want me to test the same code here? |
| 13:22:22 | cfarmer: | sure if you have a chance... |
| 13:22:50 | cfarmer: | frankly, I'm really just trying to create screen grabs for the developer manaual |
| 13:30:04 | timlinux: | cfarmer, ah |
| 13:31:22 | cfarmer: | is anyone else experiencing serious cpu spikes with the new ubuntu? |
| 13:32:38 | timlinux: | cfarmer, no |
| 13:33:32 | cfarmer: | damn... well, good for you... not for me... |
| 13:44:22 | timlinux: | cfarmer, in reference to: http://www.carsonfarmer.com/?p=20 , you can do even more simply using 'rpl' -> sudo apt-get install rpl; rpl "searchterm" "replaceterm" *.py |
| 13:44:23 | sigq: | Title: Carson Farmer Blog Archive Find and replace multiple files ( at www.carsonfarmer.com ) |
| 13:45:26 | cfarmer: | oh yeh, I actually discovered a few other really simple ways to do that since then... I guess I should update it or remove it one of these days... |
| 13:45:56 | cfarmer: | thanks btw |
| 13:46:15 | cfarmer: | timlinux: have there been any changes to quickprint lately? |
| 13:46:19 | timlinux: | no prob - just happened to see it when I was adding a link to your blog to my blog |
| 13:46:23 | timlinux: | cfarmer, no |
| 13:46:42 | cfarmer: | ok, I'm having trouble compiling... |
| 13:46:59 | cfarmer: | I don't like computers today;-( |
| 13:48:42 | jayd: | Anyone know why the Python plugin installer would be missing from a ubuntu hardy install ( from ppa.launchpad ) I'm running python 2.5.2..all of the other plugins are there! |
| 13:50:46 | timlinux: | jayd, thats odd |
| 13:51:32 | jayd: | 1.0.1 kore fyi |
| 13:52:15 | cfarmer: | jayd: it's not showing up in the plugin manager? is the plugin_installer folder in your plugins dir? |
| 13:53:01 | cfarmer: | wait... do you have a python console under the Plugins menu item? |
| 13:53:56 | jayd: | no console! |
| 13:54:54 | jef: | jayd: apt-get install python-qgis |
| 13:54:59 | cfarmer: | ah you don't have pyqgis installed... |
| 13:55:07 | cfarmer: | oops and there is your solution! |
| 13:55:32 | jayd: | ah-ha |
| 13:55:39 | jayd: | no I don't! |
| 13:59:29 | timlinux: | doktoreas ( for the logs ) ok new packages for win are made - will upload tomorrow |
| 13:59:32 | : | * timlinux has to crash |
| 13:59:36 | timlinux: | cheers all |
| 13:59:43 | : | * racicot has not had a chance to post officially via blog, but here are some more slides from QGIS presentation at WAURISA a couple of days ago... |
| 13:59:50 | racicot: | http://www.reprojected.com/presentations/Presentations/waurisa_2009/z-pulley_QGIS_PYTHON.pdf |
| 14:01:14 | racicot: | build a plugin using the web based plugin builder and modify via designer and connect to a SIGNAL in 30 minutes or less... ;- ) |
| 14:03:37 | jef: | racicot: designer is not in osgeo4w? is there a special one for pyqt? |
| 14:04:16 | racicot: | I did not see the executable in there... all I had seen was the dll... maybe I missed it |
| 14:04:38 | jef: | racicot: qt4-devel |
| 14:05:07 | racicot: | ah, must have been that I missed that package in the install... I will look. |
| 14:05:40 | : | * racicot wrote those slides late at night after installing on a new machine... |
| 14:11:07 | racicot: | jef: so I just booted up that machine, and yes I have qt4-devel instlled but it does not include the designer.exe as far as I can tell. Had to install pyqt4 win installer from riverbank to get a copy of the designer exe |
| 14:13:29 | jef: | racicot: you don't have bin/designer.exe? |
| 14:15:22 | racicot: | ooops, I do! |
| 14:15:36 | racicot: | I was looking at the wrong place. Man I feel stupid |
| 14:16:44 | jef: | racicot: phew. ; ) |
| 14:18:27 | racicot: | I will take that reference out of the slides ;- ) |
| 14:18:36 | : | * racicot has to head outside for a bit... |
| 14:41:43 | jmckenna: | anyone here know where a recent QGIS ppt or odp presentation lives? ( basic presentation with project history, features etc ) |
| 14:45:37 | CIA-70: | cfarmer * r10755 /docs/trunk/english_us/coding-compilation_guide/ ( 5 files in 2 dirs ): finish coding and compilation manual plugin sections |
| 14:46:06 | sigq: | tracfeed: Changeset [10755]: finish coding and compilation manual plugin sections <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10755> |
| 14:46:35 | jmckenna: | no worries, i'll use the info on the site |
| 14:49:20 | wildintellect: | anything buried in the svn? |
| 14:49:29 | wildintellect: | we should probably keep something like that handy |
| 15:38:30 | jayd--: | @jef apt-get python-qgis got me half the way there...for some reason I had to download and add the python plugin manager on my own( putting it in /home/name/.qgis/python/plugins/ ) Thanks! |
| 15:38:51 | jayd--: | @jef apt-get python-qgis got me half the way there...for some reason I had to download and add the python plugin manager on my own( putting it in /home/name/.qgis/python/plugins/ ) Thanks! |
| 16:25:35 | darkblue_B: | or, hi wildintellect |
| 17:09:35 | darkblue_B: | hello - what is the status of QGis 1.1? |
| 17:09:51 | darkblue_B: | I am looking for the spatialite data provider, specifically |
| 17:27:26 | jctull: | darkblue_B: what platform are you on? |
| 17:27:36 | darkblue_B: | I can use Ubuntu linux |
| 17:27:50 | darkblue_B: | .. I generally have a Mac.. but I dont have all the GIS stuff on it |
| 17:28:02 | darkblue_B: | Ubuntu is good |
| 17:28:05 | jctull: | You can always build the source following the wiki instructions, or mac similarly |
| 17:28:10 | jctull: | I use a mac |
| 17:28:31 | darkblue_B: | build.. so there is no 1.1 thing yet? |
| 17:28:56 | jctull: | Probably another few days, maybe a week? I have not been following too closely. |
| 17:29:12 | darkblue_B: | ok, a week is good.. we have a demo on the 16th |
| 17:29:24 | darkblue_B: | it would be nice to get for that |
| 17:29:42 | jctull: | check the qgis-dev archives. There have been some calls for packaging, etc. |
| 17:30:14 | jctull: | Also, keep an eye on www.kyngchaos.com for his binary. |
| 17:30:20 | darkblue_B: | ok, I have to do other things.. thx for info.. I will wait a bit longer.. |
| 17:30:33 | darkblue_B: | yeah.. I dont have the kyngchaos setup |
| 17:30:39 | darkblue_B: | but his stuff is great |
| 17:31:05 | darkblue_B: | thank you jctull |
| 17:31:05 | jctull: | If you have xcode and his frameworks, building is quite easy... |
| 17:31:08 | jctull: | np |
| 21:08:03 | jctull_: | m |
| 21:45:29 | CIA-70: | pcav * r10756 /trunk/qgis/ ( DONORS SPONSORS ): Added DONORS, changed SPONSORS. Please add DONORS tab to the About box |
| 21:45:31 | sigq: | tracfeed: Changeset [10756]: Added DONORS, changed SPONSORS. Please add DONORS tab to the About box <https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/changeset/10756> |
